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scottie prince

B_Tiger

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the broncos looked better when he was out there but he didn't get much time and didn't have too much involvement except for setting up one gordon tallis break.
 

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IMO, buying Scott Prince was the worst investment the Tigers could of made. He is injury prone, unproven in the NRL and I dont rate him as much of a halfback. I have seen him play twice this season and he has done NOTHING.

You guys missed out on the smart buy of trying to get Dean Byrne or even better, Matthew Head, who outplayed Scott Prince and whoever the other halfback was last night.
Head has now re-signed at the Dragons.

I will be extremely suprised if:
a) Scott Prince plays more than half a season for the Tigers
b) Has any major impact on the Tigers.
 

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RedDragon said:
IMO, buying Scott Prince was the worst investment the Tigers could of made. He is injury prone, unproven in the NRL and I dont rate him as much of a halfback. I have seen him play twice this season and he has done NOTHING.

You guys missed out on the smart buy of trying to get Dean Byrne or even better, Matthew Head, who outplayed Scott Prince and whoever the other halfback was last night.
Head has now re-signed at the Dragons.

I will be extremely suprised if:
a) Scott Prince plays more than half a season for the Tigers
b) Has any major impact on the Tigers.

HEY!!! Arent you talkin about Hassan Saleh???
 

hybrid_tiger

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RedDragon said:
IMO, buying Scott Prince was the worst investment the Tigers could of made. He is injury prone, unproven in the NRL and I dont rate him as much of a halfback. I have seen him play twice this season and he has done NOTHING.

You guys missed out on the smart buy of trying to get Dean Byrne or even better, Matthew Head, who outplayed Scott Prince and whoever the other halfback was last night.
Head has now re-signed at the Dragons.

I will be extremely suprised if:
a) Scott Prince plays more than half a season for the Tigers
b) Has any major impact on the Tigers.

So Prince is unproven and Head and Byrne have proved themselves in the NRL???

:roll:

Prince is a top class halfback. Ask Broncos fans what they think of letting him go. He will be an excellent buy for us.
 

HappyTiger

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RedDragon said:
IMO, buying Scott Prince was the worst investment the Tigers could of made. He is injury prone, unproven in the NRL and I dont rate him as much of a halfback. I have seen him play twice this season and he has done NOTHING.



You guys missed out on the smart buy of trying to get Dean Byrne or even better, Matthew Head, who outplayed Scott Prince and whoever the other halfback was last night.
Head has now re-signed at the Dragons.

I will be extremely suprised if:
a) Scott Prince plays more than half a season for the Tigers
b) Has any major impact on the Tigers.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: .Need i say more.
 

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well we'll see next season wont we. He might have a great season but my greatest concern would be how he gets hurt every three matches.

Knowing you lot, the second he has a bad game you will want him dropped and will be crying about not buying Matt Head or someone else.

I would rather have Matt Head than Scott Prince.
But I would rather have Firman over both of them :lol:
 

braz

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brett firman has had two shoulder recons in two years - both shoulders.

if i was a saints fan i'd be worried about that
 

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braz said:
brett firman has had two shoulder recons in two years - both shoulders.

if i was a saints fan i'd be worried about that

He has had 1 shoulder reconstruction (left shoulder) and a shoulder stabilisation (right shoulder).

Stabilisation (his most recent one, is just re-attatching some muscle back to the bone in the shoulder that had come away.

He still is one of the best defensive halfbacks in the NRL and play ALL but 3 games for us this year. How many games has Scott Prince played for Brisbane in this year and last year combined?
 

HappyTiger

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whatever it is it doesnt sound good for a bloke in his 1st year of football.Prince on the other hand has had 2 broken legs.Thats got nothing to do with being injury prone.........thats just plain unlucky.
 

B_Tiger

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As someone else said the options you suggested of Head and Byrne are just as untested as prince and probably more so considering prince's first grade experience at the cowboys. While Prince definately has his faults and is unproven as a first grade half, he is undisputably a talented player. He also performed very well in first grade as a 5/8 for the cowboys and many clubs were after him when he went off contract there. So if he doesn't work out at half he could probably perform for us at 5/8. Basically the upside to signing him far outweigh the negatives you highlighted. He could potentially be a very good player for us. He is a risk but the club is in a position where risks have to be taken. I agree with you that signing players like head and byrne would have been very good for the club but I don't think that detracts from the club signing Prince, I think he was a good acquisition for the tigers.
 

Lochie

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[quote="RedDragon] How many games has Scott Prince played for Brisbane in this year and last year combined?[/quote]

Come on Red, usually you make a good point. If you had Shaun Berrigan playing for you, tell me that Firman would have played more games than Prince has. :roll:
 

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Lochie said:
[quote="RedDragon] How many games has Scott Prince played for Brisbane in this year and last year combined?

Come on Red, usually you make a good point. If you had Shaun Berrigan playing for you, tell me that Firman would have played more games than Prince has. :roll:[/quote]

sorry on the mis-understanding, I meant how many games has he played for Brisbane due to injury restricting, or how long has he been unavailiable to play due to injury.

Look, he obviously has some talent but I tend to see him as a 5/8 rather than a Halfback.
Im not bagging the Tigers saying that they are stupid, but put it this way, I dont think it was the smartest decision to sign Prince. Thats all.
I want to see the Tigers do well as I live in the area, but not as well as the Dragons ;-)
 

Gobbso

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Not just breaking his leg's but 'shattering' the bones' seen him take an extended long service leave during his time at the Bronco's. The games he has played this season, he has grown in confidence every week, which can only be good for the bloke, making him realise that everytime he takes the field that he is not always going to get injured.

I believe Prince is primed for a bumper season in 2004. He will be the leader of the team. He will have the respondiblity of guiding the troops around the park...something he has really been deprived of since joining the Broncos from the Cowboys where he had full reign, but due to Langer, Berrigan and 'injury' seen hik become a passenger.

Prince surely has the talent skill and ability, its just about starting over, and believing in himself. that word' confidence' once again appears when referring to Scott Prince.

I tend to agree with one thing Red Dragon stated, that is that i also see Prince for of a 5/8th than a halfback. He played his best football under Sheens during his tenture at Nth QLD and performed brilliantly. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Prince being swtiched and moved to 5/8th throughout 2004.
 

Trollhammaren

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This is a very smart buy in my opinion, he was great for the Cowboys and I wanted the Tiges to sign him then. Just hope he is injury-free next year. I'd take him over both of those St. George Illawarra halves mentioned earlier any day!
 

Bald Tiger

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Not having seen Prince play much in the last few seasons, I am more than happy to accept the collected wisdom of Tim Sheens and Wayne Bennett that he can play. Now they are not infallible but compared to Brown and Langmack they get my vote.
 

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I think Red Dragon's just knit picking!! Brett Firman is the next scott hill ......oh and im not talking about his football........rather his shoulders.......speaking of Hill, im glad he didnt join us , u only have to tap him on the shoulder and its busted again.............now there's an injury proned player...........not Prince!
 

Rocky Maivia

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For starters Red Dragon, how did Matthew Head outplay Scott Prince on Friday night? Prince got less than 20 minutes, so to say that Matthew Head outplayed him, is quite stupid to say the least.

When Prince was on, he was the player who looked the most likely to break the line, or put someone through a hole. And that he did. Tallis went through a yawning gap, but unfortunately, Tallis was a bit selfish and didn't look for any support.

Prince was directing the troops well, and there's no doubt that our attack was more fluent with him on.

He didn't do anything special in that 20 minutes, but hey, were you expecting him to? Honestly, he’s been out for 4 weeks, and any player who's out for a month isn't going to come back and absolutely be outstanding in his first 20 minutes back from injury. Maybe Johns or Lockyer might. But don't except Prince too.

That's how it's been all season. He's had long stints on the sideline, then he's come out to play, then he starts to get the hang of things, then Bennet takes him off. No Broncos fan knows the reason behind Wayne's actions, but it's starting to piss us all off. Scotty is a talented player, with loads of potential, yet Bennet dosn't give him a fair go. I just hope the Tigers treat him better than what the Broncos have.

Berrigan was in hospital all week, and Prince was training at halfback all week. He trained very well apparently. Then, Berrigan forced himself in the side, and started at halfback with Prince on the bench? Quite a silly move by Bennet if you ask me. Berrigan should have been on the bench, and Prince should have started considering he had trained at halfback all week while Berro was in hospital.

Also, Prince isn't injury prone. I call it bad luck. He broke his leg twice, and then he had a foot injury, then a hamstring injury. Just unlucky. When he was at the Cowboys, he wasn't injured every three weeks, was he? He's not injury prone at all.

I am absolutely peed off at the Broncos for letting Prince go so easily. Wayne didn't have Prince in his plans I don't think. Prince and Seymour were going to be the future halves of the Broncos. But unfortunately, Bennet had other ideas. Anymore stupid ideas by Wayne, and maybe the Broncos fans won't have Bennet in their plans for future years.

The Tigers singing Prince was the best thing they could do. He's a talented player with loads of potential. He'll do well next year, I can feel it.
 

DA

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The thing about Prince is he didn’t miss a game playing for the Clydesdales, and he starred almost every week. It was only in the Brisbane game that he suffered his first injury of the year. I am sure he will start at halfback, with Ben Reynolds at 5/8. I rate Reynolds as maybe our smartest signing. He can cover the halves plus dummy-half, with Marshall a pinch-hitter from the bench.
 

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Rocky said:
For starters Red Dragon, how did Matthew Head outplay Scott Prince on Friday night? Prince got less than 20 minutes, so to say that Matthew Head outplayed him, is quite stupid to say the least.

Scott Prince did play on Friday did he not? 20minutes, 10minutes, 5minutes, 80minutes...its doesn't matter, he was on the field at the same time as Matthew Head.
To be more to the point I guess you could say that Matthew Head outplayed Berrigan and Prince.
"How can that be?" I hear you say. Well its simple. The Dragons won(fullstop). Berrigan might of been sick and Prince mightn't of played much recently, but the hardcore facts are that this is Matthew Heads first Full game as a Halfback in First grade, and only his 4th First grade game in his career. Only weeks after he was injured aswell.

Everytime there was a break in the Dragons defence....Matthew Head was one of the first players to sprint across to tackle the player that got through. You could see the comittment and passion Head was playing with everytime he did something. He directed his troops more effectively than 2 Broncos halves directed their State of Origin line-up.

There were only 2 times that I noticed Scott Prince. When he was all over Brent Kites face in the tackle that led to the brawl and sin-binning of his own player...and two minutes latter when Prince was dragged back off.

Rocky said:
Also, Prince isn't injury prone. I call it bad luck. He broke his leg twice, and then he had a foot injury, then a hamstring injury. Just unlucky. When he was at the Cowboys, he wasn't injured every three weeks, was he? He's not injury prone at all.

You call it bad luck, I call it injury prone. If he has broken his leg twice, he obviously has some weakness in his bone.
Like it or not, you just showed that he has had 4 injuries in only a few seasons.
Would you call Paul Green unlucky aswell?? Because when I hear about Scott Prince, it reminds me of Paul Green.

Both good players, but both prone to hurting themselves one way or another.
 

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