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Semi Radradra threatening to leave NRL

adamkungl

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"No star is worth bending over for"

It's competition, why does it matter if it's with another sport or another club? If Moylan or Cartwright received a big offer from Parra you'd hope Gus would at least bend over a little, get the lube out.
 

betcats

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"No star is worth bending over for"

It's competition, why does it matter if it's with another sport or another club? If Moylan or Cartwright received a big offer from Parra you'd hope Gus would at least bend over a little, get the lube out.


This isn't the same thing at all. But to answer your question I wouldn't want Gus to bend over because it just f**ks our salary cap up, we just came through 10 years of shit because we overspent keeping juniors. We don't have that Rorters salary cap where you can just bring SBW in at the drop of a hat.

I am talking about the NRL bending over and making up rules or giving players exceptions because they might be going to rugby or they want to come back from Rugby.
 

adamkungl

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This isn't the same thing at all. But to answer your question I wouldn't want Gus to bend over because it just f**ks our salary cap up, we just came through 10 years of shit because we overspent keeping juniors. We don't have that Rorters salary cap where you can just bring SBW in at the drop of a hat.

I am talking about the NRL bending over and making up rules or giving players exceptions because they might be going to rugby or they want to come back from Rugby
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When has this ever happened? Unless you count the sad merkins at the ARL picking Semi for a Roos jersey, which we all agree is rubbish.
 

adamkungl

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This isn't the same thing at all. But to answer your question I wouldn't want Gus to bend over because it just f**ks our salary cap up, we just came through 10 years of shit because we overspent keeping juniors. We don't have that Rorters salary cap where you can just bring SBW in at the drop of a hat.

Lucky Gus knows better than you then. You need stars to win comps and stars are always gonna attract outside interest. Be it from other clubs or Rugby.

But I agree with you that exceptions to the rules shouldn't be made. My view though is that the rules should be more accomodating in general, which is another story entirely.
 

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When has this ever happened? Unless you count the sad merkins at the ARL picking Semi for a Roos jersey, which we all agree is rubbish.

Of course I count that and of course it was a joke. There were calls for him to be allowed to play SOO as well all because "we are going to lose him". Every time a player leaves or threatens to leave we have calls for salary cap exemptions or TPA exemptions or lets get our Dave Smiths 'warchest'. We don't need to do that, if players want to come back they can see who is interested and negotiate like everyone else. I was happy to have SBW come back but the way we prostituted ourselves for him was embarrassing, the guy hurt the game immensely and then we make him the face of the league, some of the channel 9 shit they did was putrid, and predictably 2 years later he is running out for the all blacks again.

Lucky Gus knows better than you then. You need stars to win comps and stars are always gonna attract outside interest. Be it from other clubs or Rugby.

But I agree with you that exceptions to the rules shouldn't be made. My view though is that the rules should be more accomodating in general, which is another story entirely.

Oh really, so you are saying you need good players to win? Who'd of thunk it! Lol you also need great depth across the park and in reserves grade(or amazing injury luck) good combinations and team chemistry plus more. Most clubs cant afford all that if they are overpaying to keep players.

Gus knows better than anyone what overpaying players can do, he just spent 5 years digging us out of that whole and telling everyone about it.
 

adamkungl

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Of course I count that and of course it was a joke. There were calls for him to be allowed to play SOO as well all because "we are going to lose him". Every time a player leaves or threatens to leave we have calls for salary cap exemptions or TPA exemptions or lets get our Dave Smiths 'warchest'. We don't need to do that, if players want to come back they can see who is interested and negotiate like everyone else. I was happy to have SBW come back but the way we prostituted ourselves for him was embarrassing, the guy hurt the game immensely and then we make him the face of the league, some of the channel 9 shit they did was putrid, and predictably 2 years later he is running out for the all blacks again.

Did the NRL actually do anything in regards to getting SBW back? As far as I remember it was all Politis. The NRL put up roadblocks regarding the salary cap. They can hardly be held accountable for Ch9s trash coverage.
 

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Shame him and koribete couldn't have been used, and paid, by the ARLC as amabassadors for the game in Fiji.

The international game and nrl are poorer for not having these exciting try machines in the game.
 

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The problem isn't that he's leaving. We're a small professional sport in an increasingly small world, people are gonna come and go for the best opportunity. All the NRL can do is make itself the most attractive Rugby competition in the world. The insular, small-time attitude of punishing people who leave for a better opportunity needs to die.

The problem is the way he's gone about it. Disappearing for weeks at a time, family members telling the media he's gorn while Parra tells their fans he'll be back at training tomorrow. He looked ready to walk out mid-contract and probably still will.
If he does, hopefully Parra sue him for breach of contract.

I completely agree.
I can't begrudge anyone moving on to something else for a shitload of cash. Most people would do it.

It just frustrates me to see players who suddenly realise they are worth more than they originally signed on for and so throw a hissy fit in order to get more money. You signed a contract...deal with it. Wait until your contract ends and make sure you are still playing well, and then you will get paid.

Any player could sign a one-year deal and up their value if they play well, but they don't in order to have security. But that's the risk you take.
 

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I will add that I'm sad to see Semi go, but only because he is a brilliant player and he plays for my team.
If he played for anyone else I wouldn't give a shit.
 
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They've supported domestic violence offenders in the past, at least passively, without any care or concern.

Though not sure what that has to do with Koroibete who has no such issue. In fact he has been used to fight DM in Fiji to some extent.
http://ministers.dfat.gov.au/steven.../sc_mr_151208.aspx?w=/F8ZUhcj+3O78bKr86LCHA==

The bigger issue is why the NRL poached a born and bred Fijian for the Kangaroos. The fact he proved to be dodgy on more than one front is a separate issue.
 

Perth Red

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Yes what a great look for the game to be seen to support domestic violence offenders.

Yes that's never happened in the past lol

I was commenting more on the fact we are developing exciting players out of Fiji but don't seem able to keep them rather than him specifically.
 

Canard

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They've supported domestic violence offenders in the past, at least passively, without any care or concern.

Though not sure what that has to do with Koroibete who has no such issue. In fact he has been used to fight DM in Fiji to some extent.
http://ministers.dfat.gov.au/stevenciobo/releases/Pages/2015/sc_mr_151208.aspx?w=/F8ZUhcj+3O78bKr86LCHA==

The bigger issue is why the NRL poached a born and bred Fijian for the Kangaroos. The fact he proved to be dodgy on more than one front is a separate issue.

Is precedent more important than doing the right thing though?

Semi playing for Australia is a disgrace and reeks of schoolyard behaviour.
 
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Is precedent more important than doing the right thing though?

Semi playing for Australia is a disgrace and reeks of schoolyard behaviour.
Of course they should do the right thing. Until it's one of their pet players or clubs. That's the rule isn't it?
 

T-Boon

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Change the rules up so that its not such a disadvantage to be small - especially on the wing. The following would work:

1. reduce interchange to 4.
2. Change 40/20 to anywhere 40 (find touch over 40m you get the feed).
 
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