Semi Radradra

[Twizzle]

we're nice guys

 

[Ivor]

Sure sure... so tell me how does (allegedly) beating up your missus fit with your theory of family at the centre of everything again?

Maybe he didn't do it. Or maybe it isn't as simple as 'she's a lovely, sweet, innocent girl and Semi is an evil monster who bashed her up for no reason whatsoever'. Just saying.

 

[Noise]

Maybe he didn't do it. Or maybe it isn't as simple as 'she's a lovely, sweet, innocent girl and Semi is an evil monster who bashed her up for no reason whatsoever'. Just saying.

Huh? What reason could there be for bashing your mrs?

 

[Ivor]

"This year I implore men to not let this happen; there are others ways to manage problems. We believe that men are the problem and men are the solution."

As long as institutions see the problem of domestic violence in these simplistic terms, nothing will ever be done to improve the situation. The sociopathic morons who like to control and belittle women won't change their behaviour; and the cases where there is shared blame (i.e: the woman is just as responsible as the male) will go unchecked. What a shame society is too politically correct in this context to do anything meaningful about such a dreadful problem.

 

[emjaycee]

Huh? What reason could there be for bashing your mrs?

This is not an attempt to justify any alleged behaviour by Semi (or anyone else) however, what if the female came at the male with a bit of 4" by 2" and started swinging it. Would the male be justified in pushing her away even if the result of the push was that she hit a table, chair or anything else and injured herself? Easy to get an AVO or DV charged laid against the male in those circumstances and until it is sorted out by a court the stigma of being a "wife basher" remains.

 

[Noise]

This is not an attempt to justify any alleged behaviour by Semi (or anyone else) however, what if the female came at the male with a bit of 4" by 2" and started swinging it. Would the male be justified in pushing her away even if the result of the push was that she hit a table, chair or anything else and injured herself? Easy to get an AVO or DV charged laid against the male in those circumstances and until it is sorted out by a court the stigma of being a "wife basher" remains.

How 'easy' is it?

 

[emjaycee]

How 'easy' is it?

From a mate who is fighting one, pretty bloody easy.
Cops arrive, statements taken, AVO issued against the male.

 

[Noise]

From a mate who is fighting one, pretty bloody easy.
Cops arrive, statements taken, AVO issued against the male.

Arrest and charges laid in regards to domestic/personal violence?

 

[Gronk]

From a mate who is fighting one, pretty bloody easy.
Cops arrive, statements taken, AVO issued against the male.

Interim (temporary) ADVO ?

Like it or not, these are issued to protect victims. Yes there may be instances of shenanigans by some, but by and large there is a genuine need for some legal space between two people, until it can be heard in court.

Nasty stuff all the same.

 

[phantom eel]

Maybe he didn't do it. Or maybe it isn't as simple as 'she's a lovely, sweet, innocent girl and Semi is an evil monster who bashed her up for no reason whatsoever'. Just saying.

Sure.

And I'm just saying that maybe he (allegedly) did do it, and/or it's somewhere inbetween...

*Oops, just read the "men's rights" post that followed on... smh*

 

[phantom eel]

From a mate who is fighting one, pretty bloody easy.
Cops arrive, statements taken, AVO issued against the male.

AVOs sure... but it's a different threshhold for charges being laid, no?

 

[emjaycee]

AVOs sure... but it's a different threshhold for charges being laid, no?

One would hope so.

 

[emjaycee]

Arrest and charges laid in regards to domestic/personal violence?

Spent the night in the local cop shop. Not sure of the latest.

 

[EelsFan05]

One would hope so.

The standard for issuing AVO/ADVO's is 'on the balance of probabilities.' Criminal charges are to be proven 'beyond a reasonable doubt'.

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

The standard for issuing AVO/ADVO's is 'on the balance of probabilities.' Criminal charges are to be proven 'beyond a reasonable doubt'.

That is true, but you also have to remember that an AVO/ADVO does not necessarily imply that violence has occurred. An order can be issued if it is shown that the applicant has reasonable ground to fear future violence, intimidation or stalking.

 

[EelsFan05]

That is true, but you also have to remember that an AVO/ADVO does not necessarily imply that violence has occurred. An order can be issued if it is shown that the applicant has reasonable ground to fear future violence, intimidation or stalking.

Agreed, that's exactly what they are for. They aren't to prove an offence occured at all. They are just a means to try and protect against future incidents. Just showing the different standards between the two processes.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

Asterix Didn't Value Obelix?

 

[Gary Gutful]

Asterix Didn't Value Obelix?

A dodgy vaginal object.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

A dodgy vaginal object.

I thought I'd pretend I was above the gutter for once.

 

[Gary Gutful]

I thought I'd pretend I was above the gutter for once.

A doubtful version of-events.