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[Magpies Forever]

Westie- Think again you are minimising the degree of people that sided with Longmuir in his demise against Sheens and the WT board didnt actively support Longmuir publicly. I reckon you could safely say most if not all of those who consider their version of the world 'where Teflon is mortal and his actions should be questioned and be held to account' send letters and / or emails and phone calls to WT board in support of Longmuir. Unfortuneately we would seem to be a minority of sanity amongst the enthralled and mesmerised.

I sent emails and signed petitions. Couldnt do much more.

From memory the Wests board members from Ashfield supported Longmuir and wanted change, the Balmain and Wests Campbelltown board members supported Sheens. And, the rest is history. We are stuck with Sheens and the same idiots extend his contract for a further year early in his final year. FFS - WT deserve every thing they get I'm sorry to say. Professional management my ar*e.

 

[hybrid_tiger]

I supported what Longmuir was trying to do. It was obvious from the outset who runs the joint.

 

[N.C.]

I signed a petition, sent emails to the club, posted on as many online fora as I could, and did not renew my membership for 2010...

That was the moment for me. I'll admit I was somewhat bemusedly un-Sheens before, but from that point on I became one of the determinedly anti-Sheens.

 

[Reek_Havoc]

Humphreys replied to me...albeit with the stock standard reply....there there..everytihng will be okay...ra ra ra.....in which i replied..

"Supporters aren't stupid,. To a degree, alot of them know what's going on with unrest on the board,.. factions not working towards a common goal. Alot of them supported Longmuir holding everyone within the club accountable including the head coach. Now we hear the news there's more bickering with Benji being fined etc. It's never ending. I can't see things improving on and off the field until the weed within this club is removed. It all stems from the top. The board and the Head coach are accountable. These fossils on the board all have their own agenda and don't really care about the venture. The coach has made too many stuff ups. I know your hands are tied and you more than likely will not change a single thing without the support of the stakeholders and the board. So, to you all I can say is good luck.

Say Hi to Sheensie for me."

 

[N.C.]

Well said.

 

[westie]

The Balmain blokes were never going to vote their man out. When will they be held accountable for their continued choices?

 

[hybrid_tiger]

I also emailed Humphries, he did reply, twice, but it was nothing more than fluff. Then again not sure he could really have done anything else. I know the last time I e-mailed Noyce similar thoughts he called my mobile and we had a chat for about 15 minutes...he was very defensive of Sheens saying things like "you aren't here when Royce and Tim start at 7am and don't leave until 9pm." etc. etc.

Here are the e-mails:

----- Original Message -----
To: Stephen Humphreys
Sent: Sun May 16 18:39:44 2010
Subject: Mediocrity of the Wests Tigers

Dear Stephen,

I write to you as a disgusted, tired and embarrassed Tigers supporter (and season ticket holder).

I have been following this side since I was old enough to walk. I'm 24 years old and was formerly a Balmain fan and followed us over when we merged in 2000. Winning the competition in 2005 was one of the best moments in my life and I was lucky enough to get a ticket to the game and also to every semi-finals game we played that season. I have also attended almost every home game for the past five or six years and travelled interstate to watch us play. 2005 was my first experience following my side in the semi-finals and was truly an amazing time which I will never forget.

However, fast forward five years later and here we are staring down the barrel at a fifth consecutive year without finals football after winning a premiership. There is simply no excuses for this kind of failure and mediocrity. In my opinion the signs were there in 2007, the disgusting capitulation in the last round against Newcastle was one of the darkest days in this clubs history, and that is no mean feat when you consider the early events in the merger, specifically 2001 and 2002.

I also had the unfortunate privilege of attending Sunday's game and what was dished up was simply pathetic and unacceptable and without doubt was one of the worst performances I have ever seen from this team, or any team in the NRL for that matter.

I know you probably won't even bother replying to this e-mail, but I want to ask you one question: is there a coach in world sport, anywhere, who like Tim Sheens, is completely unaccountable for his teams performances?

Can I ask how you and your board came to the decision to resign Tim Sheens for a further year a few weeks ago? What has Tim done to deserve another contract extension? We have not made the semi finals for four years. I have no doubts Tim is a good coach but its clear his time with us is up and he has become stale. Obviously the players aren't responding to him any longer when at least 14 of them didn't even put any effort in whatsoever on Sunday.

Like most loyal Tigers supporters I am grateful to Tim and the rest of the coaching staff for 2005. However, how long can they cling onto this for? Already we are five years down the track and have only gone spiralling backwards. In my opinion 2010 is not going to get any better as Tim has shown he keeps making the same mistakes that cost us in 2006, 2007, 2008 and 2009 - namely, playing players out of position, picking wingers on the bench who don't get any game time, playing with 16 players in 30 degree heat etc. etc.

I know there are some circumstances which couldn't have been avoided, for example the injuries in 2006 and the depature of Scott Prince (who always wanted to return home) but there is only so long that these excuses can be used. Most fans initially gave the coaching staff the benefit of the doubt - but no longer can this sort of mediocrity be tolerated. It is a disgrace and is completely unacceptable.

I know it probably won't mean much, but I will definately not be renewing my season ticket in 2011, unless of course massive changes are made. I also know of many others who will be doing the same. I mistakenly "stepped up" this year - perhaps someone should have told our players and coach that they are supposed to do the same.

Yours sincerely,

hybrid tiger

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From: Stephen Humphreys <shumphreys@weststigers.com.au>
Sent: Sun, 16 May, 2010 9:50:19 PM
Subject: Re: Mediocrity of the Wests Tigers

Dear hybrid

Thanks for taking the time to send me your email.

Let me say that I share your frustration and your disappointment with today's performance. Quite simply, it was totally unacceptable.

The players and coaches have been quick to take responsibility for the inept display and to apologise for it to all Wests Tigers members, fans and sponsors.

We've already spoken about what's required and expected from here. I'm confident that you'll see an immediate and significant improvement in attitude and performance.

I urge you to stick solid in your support of the Tigers. I know we let you down badly today but these are the times that the guys really need to know that we're all with them.

Thanks again for your note and your support.

Kind Regards
Steve

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Sent: Tuesday, 18 May 2010 4:42 PM
To: Stephen Humphreys
Subject: Re: Mediocrity of the Wests Tigers

Hi Stephen,

Thanks for taking the time to reply.

I agree that Sunday was totally unacceptable, but I also think that not making the finals for four (soon to be five) years straight is also unacceptable. I also think that resigning a coach on the back of this failure is completely unacceptable and this is a decision that you and your board have made to the detriment of all of our loyal fans and supporters.

I have supported this club and the coach for the past seven seasons and he has performed in one of them. Unfortunately enough is enough and I will no longer support the club so as long as Tim remains as our coach. I will watch on TV, but will no longer waste my time attending games, even with my membership. Yesterday's inept "performance" was the final straw.

My biggest regret is wasting $320 to "step up" when our coach has stepped up once out of seven years. I will not make the same mistake again unless the necessary changes are made.

As the saying goes "if you always do what you always did then you'll always get what you always got".

Thanks again for your time.

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Hi hybrid

I note and understand your comments.

Kind Regards

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Chief Executive Officer
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[Tigers_are_Pro]

They're going to send you a virus lol.

 

[innsaneink]

Yeh thay make me sick

 

[Magpies Forever]

Thanks Hybred Tiger

Re Stephen Humphrey's email response:

From: Stephen Humphreys <shumphreys@weststigers.com.au>
Sent: Sun, 16 May, 2010 9:50:19 PM
Subject: Re: Mediocrity of the Wests Tigers

Dear hybrid

Thanks for taking the time to send me your email.

Let me say that I share your frustration and your disappointment with today's performance. Quite simply, it was totally unacceptable.

The players and coaches have been quick to take responsibility for the inept display and to apologise for it to all Wests Tigers members, fans and sponsors.

We've already spoken about what's required and expected from here. I'm confident that you'll see an immediate and significant improvement in attitude and performance.

I urge you to stick solid in your support of the Tigers. I know we let you down badly today but these are the times that the guys really need to know that we're all with them.

Thanks again for your note and your support.

Kind Regards
Steve

'I'm confident that you'll see an immediate and significant improvement in attitude and performance.'- what happens if no immediate or significant improvement happens? Where is the signalling that this will happen if things dont improve? What can they do? They've already re-signed Teflon (and by inference Simmons) for a further year...........

Its meaningless spin to keep the masses quiet.

The only thing that can make the board members and CEO shift is if their own positions come under threat. Watch how fast Teflon & co would be ejected then. Nothing like the nice little cosy WT board, CEO and matching coaching staff- hope they all sink together.

Damn, I dont want WT to loose but thats what I feel like sometime just to force peoples hands.

 

[STG-MACCA]

It's good to see that your CEO has the dignity to respond. I know you guys are in a tough position, however it is more frustrating when your letters are ignored, as was the case when we had coaching troubles.

Good luck

 

[Tigers_are_Pro]

Personally, I think you should've waited till after the Knights game. If we win, don't respond until a later date, but if we dish up the same rubbish, remind him.

 

[Ron Jeremy]

I'm going to send a message too stating that without Tim Sheens and Royce Simmons as coach i'll never attend another home game, point to the fact that but he won a premiership in 2005, is the current Australian coach, the coach isn't responsible for players dropping the ball on the field, he blooded Benji Marshall, Robbie Farrah, has a good rapport with the media and fans - is a fans favourite, the ball isn't bouncing our way this year on the field, gives good interviews, fans calling for his head have no idea how to coach, and just look at his past recored of premierships says it all - asking for him to be re-signed for another 3 years

:lol:

joking

 

[Front-Rower]

I'm going to send a message too stating that without Tim Sheens and Royce Simmons as coach i'll never attend another home game, point to the fact that but he won a premiership in 2005, is the current Australian coach, the coach isn't responsible for players dropping the ball on the field, he blooded Benji Marshall, Robbie Farrah, has a good rapport with the media and fans - is a fans favourite, the ball isn't bouncing our way this year on the field, gives good interviews, fans calling for his head have no idea how to coach, and just look at his past recored of premierships says it all - asking for him to be re-signed for another 3 years

:lol:

joking

I know your having a lend but this is all to similar to the Brian Smith saga at Parramatta, must bring back memories for you.

 

[Ron Jeremy]

I know your having a lend but this is all to similar to the Brian Smith saga at Parramatta, must bring back memories for you.

you have no idea how much it does, have faith in the law of attraction, not much longer now

 

[N.C.]

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...-snipers-inside-the-tigers-20100522-w2vr.html

Victory gives Sheens no shelter from snipers inside the Tigers

DANIEL LANE

May 23, 2010
Tigers great Paul Sironen and club management have defended besieged coach Tim Sheens's non-attendance at the Balmain Tigers' annual Hall of Fame dinner last week by blaming muckrakers for trying to exploit his absence.
Sheens, who signed a new deal with the Tigers six weeks ago, and his skipper, Robbie Farah, were promoted as guests at this year's dinner, at which former NRL boss Neil Whittaker, who played hooker for Balmain, and 1940s halfback Stan Ponchard were admitted to the Balmain Hall of Fame.
There was also a moving tribute to the late Kevin Humphreys, the former head of Balmain and the NSWRL. He was represented by his son and current CEO, Stephen.
However, The Sun-Herald received phone calls on Thursday that suggested some audience members were offended by Sheens's absence. They said he was ''taking cover'' after a tsunami of criticism that followed last Sunday's 50-10 defeat to Souths at the SCG.
''After the loss to Souths it was decided the team would go into camp ahead of the Newcastle game on Friday night, and everyone involved in organising the dinner agreed that was a wise move,'' said Sironen, the Tigers' acting general manager.
''There was no problem, no issue, no drama. Look, Tim Sheens has been around way too long to be avoiding dinners and things like that. The team went into camp and won the game against Newcastle. I'm sure that would've pleased all Wests Tigers supporters.''
Humphreys was outraged by the notion anyone at the dinner would have complained about a situation he said had been explained to them in plain, simple English.
''Given our desire to ensure the guys were prepared as well as possible for last night [Friday], we sent them up to Newcastle a day early, which meant Tim and Robbie couldn't go. At the end Tim was reluctant to miss it but I convinced him to go with the team,'' he said.
''I hoped the Tigers fans in the room understood that and they agreed we should prioritise winning the game. I got a big cheer of support for that.''
Humphreys had no doubt the anger expressed about Sheens's non-attendance was an offshoot of the widespread criticism of the veteran coach's performance during the week.
''When you're as outspoken as Tim you pick up a few people along the way who like to have a crack at you,'' he said. ''Tim is tough enough to live with that, as we all are. People have their agendas and they wait for an opportunity.''

Who's got an agenda, Mr Humphries? The fans who are getting sick of hearing the same old sh*t, the club coach who ran out of ideas early in 1979, or the CEO who re-signed him two weeks into his sixth "no-excuses, finals-or-bust" season with the club?

What a stooge.