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shanno has a plan for NZ

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http://www.loverugbyleague.com/news_20349-nrl-to-stop-rape-and-pillage-of-new-zealand.html


head of strategy Shane Richardson has outlined ideas to improve how*New Zealand*is treated by the game's premier club competition.

While the Kiwis are the top ranked international nation, and the country of*New Zealandprovides much of the*NRL's talent, Richardson believes that more needs to be done to support rugby league in the Shakey Isles.

"Forty per cent of our players are of Polynesian background, which is wonderful for our sport, but they grew up in*New Zealand*and we've got to do far more and consider them far more in their view of the whole of the game than we are now," Richardson told media Down Under.

"We can't just rape and pillage the players across here and not do something about what they're actually doing over there. It's alright to sit there and criticise*New Zealand*Rugby League (NZRL) etc, but when you're on the smell of the oily rag that depends on Test matches and whether it rains or not to be able to operate a league, it's the wrong way of going."

Part of the strategy will involve setting up a second*NRL*team in*New Zealand*in the future, as well as offering more opportunities to Kiwi youngsters to play against their Australian counterparts in club competition.

"Part of the pathway here is to get at least two teams from NZ eventually playing in the platinum league, have Under-18s coming across and 20s playing in competitions in*Australia*to strengthen it, to try give incentives to those players and hopefully those players can stay at home to do it," Richardson added.

"They don't have to relocate themselves and their families to be able to participate in rugby league and we can grow NZ which I think is a gem, as we can grow Pacifica and as we can grow affiliated states."
 

ParraEelsNRL

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Sounds nice but getting sick of all these mixed signals about expansion, for goodness sake, just tell us who is coming in and from where, and how much 9 and Fox are going to pay for it.
 

kiwileaguefan

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Canterbury are pushing on with their attempts to get a NSW Cup team off the ground...

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/league...eam-backers-rapt-with-nrl-expansion-blueprint

Sadly i think the change to only sign players at 17 will have massive impacts here in NZ. This will allow Rugby to snap up any talented players before League does. Currently in my region, we have 600 players. This year we had three signed to NRL Clubs, and all three are under 18. I believe all three of them play both rugby and league...

NRL Clubs are snapping up young Kiwi Kids for the U20's....will be interesting to see if this changes as part of the proposed blue print.

Rugby are already licking their lips at the possible age change:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/league/news/article.cfm?c_id=79&objectid=11561897
 
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The age change is one of the stupidest ideas in the history of the sport and that alone should see the entire commission and all nrl bosses sacked on the spot. But dont try telling the nrl fanbois that. Theyll tell you its not a problem. Lol.

More lip service here from the useless fat merkin. The nrl says no growth and no expansion at the same time as spouting shit like this. Par for the course.
 

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The age change is one of the stupidest ideas in the history of the sport and that alone should see the entire commission and all nrl bosses sacked on the spot. But dont try telling the nrl fanbois that. Theyll tell you its not a problem.

More lip service here from the useless fat merkin. The nrl says no growth and no expansion at the same time as spouting shit like this. Par for the course.


Perhaps for a start have look at the issue involving young players at the start.5 lost their lives depression related in recent times.
If you ignore the health and mindset issues effecting young players away from home or under intense pressure to succeed,then you are either clueless or braindead.
And one doesn't need to be a"fan bois" as you like to call them.

I don't necessarily agree with many of Richo's views,as I want expansion.They haven't stated no growth nor expansion,just not appearing on the current plan.

If it's lip service,it has got many NRL club bosses offside .
 

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Canterbury are pushing on with their attempts to get a NSW Cup team off the ground...

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/league...eam-backers-rapt-with-nrl-expansion-blueprint

I hope they succeed. I'd love to see NZ have 3 sides one day - Auckland Christchurch and Wellington. To me Christchurch makes a lot of sense - it's like the Illawara in terms of its population and it seems to produce great athletes (going by their success in Super Rugby anyway).

NRL Clubs are snapping up young Kiwi Kids for the U20's....will be interesting to see if this changes as part of the proposed blue print.

Rugby are already licking their lips at the possible age change:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/league/news/article.cfm?c_id=79&objectid=11561897

That article didn't really make it sound like they were "licking their lips"...

To be frank, I wouldn't worry too much, as when it comes down to it the NRL still has 16 fully professional high profile teams for players in Aus and NZ versus the 5 NZ Super Rugby offers (NPC isn't a great paying gig and kiwis can't play for OS Super sides if they want to be an All Black), so they'll still have that carrot to dangle in front of them.
 
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Perhaps for a start have look at the issue involving young players at the start.5 lost their lives depression related in recent times.
If you ignore the health and mindset issues effecting young players away from home or under intense pressure to succeed,then you are either clueless or braindead.
And one doesn't need to be a"fan bois" as you like to call them.

I don't necessarily agree with many of Richo's views,as I want expansion.They haven't stated no growth nor expansion,just not appearing on the current plan.

If it's lip service,it has got many NRL club bosses offside .

Don't bother. He's not interested in any form of a discussion, just a bitching session.
 

kiwileaguefan

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That article didn't really make it sound like they were "licking their lips"...

To be frank, I wouldn't worry too much, as when it comes down to it the NRL still has 16 fully professional high profile teams for players in Aus and NZ versus the 5 NZ Super Rugby offers (NPC isn't a great paying gig), so they'll still have that carrot to dangle in front of them.

I am telling you now it will have a massive impact. NZ Rugby will now have first picks on any talented 16 year olds. Its a massive advantage to Rugby over League.

Just look at the damage U20's has done to Auckland Rugby....Auckland Rugby couldn't offer what the NRL U20's does....you only have to look at Konrad Hurrell, Kata as one of the many examples..

Just look at the comment below from the article:

Strachan, Auckland rugby's high performance manager, believes the changes will have positive spin-offs for the athlete and assist rugby in their attempts to keep and attract rising stars in both codes.
 

kiwileaguefan

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Perhaps for a start have look at the issue involving young players at the start.5 lost their lives depression related in recent times.
If you ignore the health and mindset issues effecting young players away from home or under intense pressure to succeed,then you are either clueless or braindead.

That's not a sports issue, its a society issue. Sadly its happening every day in our schools...
 

adamkungl

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Not signing teenagers will definitely play into RUs hands. It's a completely insane idea.

RL not signing them won't achieve anything for player welfare if they just get put into the RU pro setup instead.
 
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Every other code must just piss themselves laughing.

You'd say the nrl just shoots themselves in the foot but richo hasnt seen his feet in years.
 

RoosTah

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I am telling you now it will have a massive impact. NZ Rugby will now have first picks on any talented 16 year olds. Its a massive advantage to Rugby over League.

Just look at the damage U20's has done to Auckland Rugby....Auckland Rugby couldn't offer what the NRL U20's does....you only have to look at Konrad Hurrell, Kata as one of the many examples..

Interesting comments regarding Auckland - I'd wondered how it is they've been so poor for so long in Super Rugby now. But surely it's also partially to do with Auckland management, because they have access to players from all over NZ and other kiwi Super Rugby sides appear to be managing.

Just look at the comment below from the article:
Well he does say "both codes"....
 

taipan

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That's not a sports issue, its a society issue. Sadly its happening every day in our schools...


I'm not suggesting it is not a society issue,we all know the problems exist.I lost a cousin female to it.My mate, a son.
My point was simply,extra pressure and living away from ones family can be a huge burden on some young guys who live away and who are either very close to their families,find the pressure to succeed in a short space of time too much.

It is a sport issue in this regard,the guys are playing rugby league and one of the responsibilities of the code(a huge one) is player welfare.They are employed by NRL clubs.

It's a bit like safety issues on building sites.

To just leave it to society who have little contact with some of these guys is fraught with danger.Society is not with them 24 hours of the day.
 

RoosTah

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To be frank guys, whether this is more a sports or a society issue isn't really the point, as the biggest issue here will undoubtedly be the legal one. Having 5 players die is a bad omen for a sport and the legal ramifications of not responding to that are potentially serious.

The NRL will no doubt be genuinely concerned about player welfare, but in making a decision like this they'll almost certainly be looking out for their own welfare first and foremost.
 

siv

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Thats the way put more RG U20 U17 U16 players in NSW Cup to reduce travel costs
 

Matua

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I am telling you now it will have a massive impact. NZ Rugby will now have first picks on any talented 16 year olds. Its a massive advantage to Rugby over League.

Just look at the damage U20's has done to Auckland Rugby....Auckland Rugby couldn't offer what the NRL U20's does....you only have to look at Konrad Hurrell, Kata as one of the many examples..

Just look at the comment below from the article:
Wow, you picked the wrong two players to try and back up your point. Hurrell and Kata weren't big losses to Auckland rugby ... Hurrell wasn't even that highly rated only when competing against high school players.

RTS might have been a better bet to try make your point - but Auckland's issues aren't that relevant when looking across the region - 3 NPC teams - and the fact that Auckland rugby often loses players to other regions in NZ.

The talented rugby players come through if they want to play rugby - in only a few cases has a player gone to an U20s team over rugby (like McGahan who went for two years for the money and then returned to rugby - which I still find odd considering who his old man its).
 

adamkungl

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To be frank guys, whether this is more a sports or a society issue isn't really the point, as the biggest issue here will undoubtedly be the legal one. Having 5 players die is a bad omen for a sport and the legal ramifications of not responding to that are potentially serious.

The NRL will no doubt be genuinely concerned about player welfare, but in making a decision like this they'll almost certainly be looking out for their own welfare first and foremost.

:roll: Ridiculous post.
 

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