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Shark warning: Flanagan tells players to shape up or else

Feej

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CRONULLA coach Shane Flanagan has put his team on notice. If they don't perform well against Melbourne at AAMI Park tomorrow, he will start dropping players and give younger ones a chance in their place.

Flanagan remains upset about the manner in which his Sharks lost to Parramatta on Monday night. The Sharks were without five of their best players - NSW State of Origin representatives Paul Gallen and Kade Snowden and injured trio Jeremy Smith, Nathan Gardner and Albert Kelly - but the coach said that was no excuse for a 40-6 loss against a team that had mostly struggled to score points this season.

''That was unacceptable,'' Flanagan said. ''You can accept that you might not have the firepower to win a game but you still go out there with a certain attitude. The way we performed against the Eels wasn't up to standard, and we have to get our act together against the Storm or I'm going to have to do something about it. If it happens again, I'm going to have to make big changes.

''We have to start performing or I'll have to start getting the young kids in. We can't just leave things the same if we don't perform well against Melbourne. We would have to change things, and I've put the players on notice to perform or that's what's going to happen.''

Flanagan said the most frustrating thing was that Cronulla had shown several times this year they could compete with top sides but weren't providing any consistency. ''It happens, and then it doesn't happen,'' he said. ''We beat the Dragons in round two, and we're still the only team that have beaten them this year. We should have beaten Manly, and we defended extremely well to beat the Roosters two rounds back, but then we get a performance like the one against Parramatta, and it's not good enough.''

An away game against the Storm is regarded as one of the toughest but Flanagan said the fact Melbourne had lost home games against the Warriors and Canberra this season showed they weren't invincible on their own turf.

''You've obviously got to play really well to do it but the Warriors and Raiders proved it can be done,'' he said. ''We've got to aim at producing the same sort of committed performance over 80 minutes.''

The Sharks get Gallen and Snowden back for tomorrow's game, but Kelly, Gardner and Smith are still out. So, too, are hooker Paul Aiton and winger John Williams.
 

Since 73

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''You can accept that you might not have the firepower to win a game but you still go out there with a certain attitude.

''You've obviously got to play really well to do it but the Warriors and Raiders proved it can be done,'' he said. ''We've got to aim at producing the same sort of committed performance over 80 minutes.''

Flanno has hung around enuff good coaches to know the right things to say (except when starts on about running tracks and hi performance units).

But..

does he then have the nous to go get the team playing to its potential?

Guys like Bennett, bellamy and Sheens can come out and criticise their players til they are in tears and the players will listen because they have the utmost rspect for their coach.
Because their coach has earnt it over many years.

Is it all the players fault is he perhaps a bum coach and has to share the blame.

There wouldn't be another coach in the comp who would send a team out with that halfback combo of Porter and Graham.

They have NO points in them and leads to the frustration we saw in the Noddy years.

Why can't he see that?

Why Flanno, why?

How do you see Porter breaking down the Storm and getting us thru them if he couldn't get us thru the bums at Parra?

Why can't you see this Flanno?

Why?

You will ultimately identify Porter is NOT the answer at 7, but the season will be gone by that time.
 
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Inferno

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Flanno has hung around enuff good coaches to know the right things to say (except when starts on about running tracks and hi performance units).

But..

does he then have the nous to go get the team playing to its potential?

Guys like Bennett, bellamy and Sheens can come out and criticise their players til they are in tears and the players will listen because they have the utmost rspect for their coach.
Because their coach has earnt it over many years.

Is it all the players fault is he perhaps a bum coach and has to share the blame.

There wouldn't be another coach in the comp who would send a team out with that halfback combo of Porter and Graham.

They have NO points in them and leads to the frustration we saw in the Noddy years.

Why can't he see that?

Why Flanno, why?

How do you see Porter breaking down the Storm and getting us thru them if he couldn't get us thru the bums at Parra?

Why can't you see this Flanno?

Why?

You will ultimately identify Porter is NOT the answer at 7, but the season will be gone by that time.

You don't think it isn't already?
 

jason taylor

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Atleast he's not using the Sticky Strategy. Keep the same team for the whole year it's bound to win at some point. . .
 

Inferno

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Our team has been going crap, with the occasional good game since round 1. Changes are long overdue, and the ones we have seen have only really been forced through injury rather than dropping under achievers.
 

imasharkie

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you can tell by Flanagans words he's a Ricky Stuart clone.
Now if he does exactly the same as Ricky did...NOTHING. Oh thats right Sticky used to drop a winger. We'll soon see if he's all b...shyte and blust OR if he's the fair dickem coach we crave for.
 

Since 73

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Atleast he's not using the Sticky Strategy. Keep the same team for the whole year it's bound to win at some point. . .

Yeah? What changes has he made that weren't injury enforced?

except dropping Tim Smith after 1 game but Ports keeps his spot after being no better.
 

Ronnie Dobbs

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Whats coach going to do? Who's he going to replace them with? A bunch of teenagers?

Not like he's flush with options.
 

Inferno

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Our NSW cup side is coming 3rd and our Toyota Cup side is coming 5th, Flanno definitely has other options available to him.
 

carcharias

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Porter has had 2 games with 1 from 2.

has been injured prior and was injured in the 7th min of the game we won.

The Eels game was an all round shyte performance.

I don't blame him ...although I would maybe sus out him at hooker.
 

Takisaw

Juniors
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Flanno has hung around enuff good coaches to know the right things to say (except when starts on about running tracks and hi performance units).

But..

does he then have the nous to go get the team playing to its potential?

Guys like Bennett, bellamy and Sheens can come out and criticise their players til they are in tears and the players will listen because they have the utmost rspect for their coach.
Because their coach has earnt it over many years.

Is it all the players fault is he perhaps a bum coach and has to share the blame.

There wouldn't be another coach in the comp who would send a team out with that halfback combo of Porter and Graham.

They have NO points in them and leads to the frustration we saw in the Noddy years.

Why can't he see that?

Why Flanno, why?

How do you see Porter breaking down the Storm and getting us thru them if he couldn't get us thru the bums at Parra?

Why can't you see this Flanno?

Why?

You will ultimately identify Porter is NOT the answer at 7, but the season will be gone by that time.


How do you have such a inpressive lower grade record then hit first grade and seem lost.

Raper was the same turned to shite as soon as he hit first grade.

They must have some idea.

sure its a different level but its still footy.Your been around a long time flanno dont blow it.

one more thing,set plays,love to see some set plays.
 

sharks8601

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http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...ayers-to-shape-up-or-else-20110527-1f8cl.html

CRONULLA coach Shane Flanagan has put his team on notice. If they don't perform well against Melbourne at AAMI Park tomorrow, he will start dropping players and give younger ones a chance in their place.

Flanagan remains upset about the manner in which his Sharks lost to Parramatta on Monday night. The Sharks were without five of their best players - NSW State of Origin representatives Paul Gallen and Kade Snowden and injured trio Jeremy Smith, Nathan Gardner and Albert Kelly - but the coach said that was no excuse for a 40-6 loss against a team that had mostly struggled to score points this season.

''That was unacceptable,'' Flanagan said. ''You can accept that you might not have the firepower to win a game but you still go out there with a certain attitude. The way we performed against the Eels wasn't up to standard, and we have to get our act together against the Storm or I'm going to have to do something about it. If it happens again, I'm going to have to make big changes.

''We have to start performing or I'll have to start getting the young kids in. We can't just leave things the same if we don't perform well against Melbourne. We would have to change things, and I've put the players on notice to perform or that's what's going to happen.''

Flanagan said the most frustrating thing was that Cronulla had shown several times this year they could compete with top sides but weren't providing any consistency. ''It happens, and then it doesn't happen,'' he said. ''We beat the Dragons in round two, and we're still the only team that have beaten them this year. We should have beaten Manly, and we defended extremely well to beat the Roosters two rounds back, but then we get a performance like the one against Parramatta, and it's not good enough.''

An away game against the Storm is regarded as one of the toughest but Flanagan said the fact Melbourne had lost home games against the Warriors and Canberra this season showed they weren't invincible on their own turf.

''You've obviously got to play really well to do it but the Warriors and Raiders proved it can be done,'' he said. ''We've got to aim at producing the same sort of committed performance over 80 minutes.''

The Sharks get Gallen and Snowden back for tomorrow's game, but Kelly, Gardner and Smith are still out. So, too, are hooker Paul Aiton and winger John Williams.

well atleast he has changed his game plan. 70 mnute plan was not working phlenno???
 

Since 73

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Porter has had 2 games with 1 from 2.

It's NRL first grade!

Anybody who knew a footballer from a monkey's arse could see 2 years ago this bloke would never get his team to finals football.

Now he's back. I wish him all the best but he ain't ever going to star at this level.

So WHY play him?

You need to be winning - FULL STOP.
So if something don't work you try something else.
If that don't work you try something else.

Graham won't work at 7.
Porter won't work at 7.
We cannot get Smith to work at 7.

So give up trying the same dumb things for the same dumb result - which is losing - and do everything to find something that works.

If there is the smallest chance the Townsend kid could make a halfback - friggin give him a go.

Do ya reckon Hasler was happy last night he plucked Cherry Evans out f reggies and gave him a go?

Or maybe he was thinking 'I should've kept Orford - he was safe. A thousand first grade games - can't get a team to win, but he's the safe option.'

No, i don't reckon he was either.
How long would Hasler put up with Porter?

About 1 half of 1 game I reckon.
 

Hooper

Juniors
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Our NSW cup side is coming 3rd and our Toyota Cup side is coming 5th, Flanno definitely has other options available to him.

A bit of 'late mail' Inferno. The NSW Cup side is now running first on percentages after todays win against the Bulldog's.
 

S.R.

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Even more late mail, Vave and Tim Smith didn't play NSW Cup. Mannah and Brod Wright did.
Make of that what you will.

Doesn't look like Gards is back either, as Ike Gordon didn't play NSW Cup.
 

shaggs

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Even more late mail, Vave and Tim Smith didn't play NSW Cup. Mannah and Brod Wright did.
Make of that what you will.

Doesn't look like Gards is back either, as Ike Gordon didn't play NSW Cup.

Don't hold your breath.
 

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