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Sheens to sue Tigers

Fordy20

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Despite the joint-venture's undoubted popularity, it is now the NRL's No.1 basket case. Just when Wests Tigers fans believed life couldn't sink any lower comes this sobering news - former coach Tim Sheens has this week started suing his former club. Last month, the Tigers stopped paying Sheens after sacking him late last year with two more seasons to run on his $450,000-a-year contract. Unwilling and unable to pay him out because of the club's crippling debt, he has been receiving payments each month, but last month it stopped. The July payment has not been received.

Subsequently, the coach commenced legal proceedings at the start of this week. Sheens could not be contacted for comment on the matter, and chairman Mike Bailey sounded like he'd just taken a call from the Grim Reaper when asked for a response. "I'm not in a position to comment on that particular matter at the moment," he said, directing inquiries to chief executive Grant Mayer, who did not return Fairfax Media's calls. Simply not paying the former coach appears a novel way for the Tigers to escape the comical situation that confronts them with his replacement, Mick Potter, certain to be brutally scalped after just one season. How absurd: paying three head coaches - Sheens, Potter, and the masochist prepared to come in next - at the one time.

Sheens might be in dispute with his former club, but one thing cannot be challenged. For all the faults facing Parramatta, and the uncertainty surrounding Cronulla, the Wests Tigers are certainly on the podium as the NRL's leading basket case. There is no escaping it. The Eels still have money to burn and do. The Sharks have rarely walked on solid ground. The Tigers are one of the most popular clubs in history, yet they are drowning in $2 million of debt and juvenile infighting is starting to bury them. Their saving grace is an abundance of emerging stars, but they won't arrive soon enough to save Potter.

He is said to have "lost the dressing room". They said the same thing about Sheens. Maybe they need to start looking at the dressing room instead of the coach. If Potter is the dead man walking we all keep reading about, his long-time manager Steve Gillis doesn't know. He's heard nothing from Mayer, or any official from the club.
"They're a very frustrating club to deal with, because everything is played out in the papers," Gillis said. "When I walk into that club, I have to wear a raincoat and put up an umbrella, it leaks so much." Maybe Potter has to go.

As he said early into his tenure, Potter took over "a smart, well coached side" from Sheens. Heading into last night's game against the Eels, which threatened to be as ugly as a Game of Thrones torture scene, they'd won six games. When asked about sacking coaches midway through their deals, the late Jack Gibson often said: "You're better off getting rid of them now - before they can f--- it up any more than they have."
Yet it would be naive to ignore that Potter had inherited deeper problems; ones that were not of Sheens' doing.

The major issue at the Tigers is a salary cap so scrambled you could make an omelette. Moving players on to accommodate the under-performing Adam Blair has strangled both their first- and second-tier salary caps.
Prop Bryce Gibbs is into his second season at the Sharks, but some of his contract is still paid by the Tigers. Can you see a pattern emerging here? For all the excrement some throw at Sheens, it is too easily forgotten that he had personally stepped in to ensure rising star Luke Brooks stayed at the Tigers after Andrew Johns did his best to lure him to the Knights.

Of course, the issues at Wests Tigers do not start and end in the coach's office. A fish always rots from the head, and the Tigers board has been as dysfunctional as any since their stormy marriage in 2000. The Balmain side of the merger once held the power, but now they have no money that has swung in favour of Western Suburbs. So Western Suburbs think.

Bailey (Wests) and deputy chairman Nick di Girolamo (Balmain) met with chief executive of the Australian Rugby League Commission Dave Smith in May, asking for financial assistance. It is understood Smith told them a unified board with independent directors would be required if they expected any handout from the league.

Bailey said on Friday: "We discussed a number of issues with the rugby league at that time, and the rugby league has put forward some of those ideas, which we are in the process of considering." This column put it to Bailey that his board appeared to be in turmoil; torn apart by old factions, power struggles and an undermining of the coach. Benji Marshall is gone. Stephen Humphreys is gone. Dave Trodden is gone.

"The unfortunate thing about that is that the board is working better than the board at Wests Tigers has in a long time, in terms of trying to march in the right way," he replied. "However, what often happens is that a lot of baggage from the past takes some time to float to the surface. We're getting a lot of flak from the media, as a whole, that has a genesis that goes back to the past."

Maybe. But good luck to any coach who wants to climb aboard for the future.

I've highlighted the money quote in this article. The NRL knows what a basket case the Tigers board is and is not prepared to throw money at these idiots. They should do the right thing and accept the NRL's offer: step down and let Mayer run the club as administrator until people with common sense and without ties to the old guard can be appointed to a new board.
 
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BuffaloRules

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The NRL funds the salary cap, and the Wests Tigers have a gazillion sponsors, yet they never have any money. Why?

Their training facilities are close to the worst in the NRL. Some clubs pay more than double a year on coaches than what is owed to the Sheenious.

Where does the money go?
 

BrotherJim05

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The NRL funds the salary cap, and the Wests Tigers have a gazillion sponsors, yet they never have any money. Why?

Their training facilities are close to the worst in the NRL. Some clubs pay more than double a year on coaches than what is owed to the Sheenious.

Where does the money go?

I was unaware that the NRL funds the salary cap?

Is the situation at our club really this bad? I feel like the Tigers are just always in the media so it seems like its always the end of the world
 

magpie4ever

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The NRL funds the salary cap, and the Wests Tigers have a gazillion sponsors, yet they never have any money. Why?

Their training facilities are close to the worst in the NRL. Some clubs pay more than double a year on coaches than what is owed to the Sheenious.

Where does the money go?

All this shit occurred under Humphrey's tenure.

I can't accept that Concord Oval is close to the worst training facility in the NRL.

Balmain being busted does not help.
 

gronkathon

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It all started under that worthless contract backloading merkin Noyce who got the f**k out of dodge when it all started to hit the fan
 

BuffaloRules

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I can't accept that Concord Oval is close to the worst training facility in the NRL.
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Who has worse?

I'm not talking just about the ground, but the recovery and gym equipment etc

Compared to Canterbury, Storm,Brisbane and others they are Stone Age.
 
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BuffaloRules

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It all started under that worthless contract backloading merkin Noyce who got the f**k out of dodge when it all started to hit the fan

The back loading of contracts doesn't make you broke, just means you have less of your cap money to spend on other players.
 

magpie4ever

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Who has worse?

I'm not talking just about the ground, but the recovery and gym equipment etc

Compared to Canterbury, Storm,Brisbane and others they are Stone Age.

You update - it is bloody equipment.

But you can't buy heart and gutzzzzz.
 

gronkathon

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The back loading of contracts doesn't make you broke, just means you have less of your cap money to spend on other players.

No but not turning up to a meeting with a multi national looking to sponsor your club because you are hitting the cans with the players in late October 2005 is
 

magpie4ever

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Other clubs have recovery equipment to help get over injuries quicker.

Probably why our blokes always come back 3 weeks later than what is originally announced.

what peptides? only joking.

I don't buy that, there are plenty of modern medical facilities around the area; if required.
 

BuffaloRules

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Yep, but getting access to them when and as often as you want may be a problem.

So we have established that unlike other clubs, they don't spend money on updating equipment, coaches or training facilities.

What are they doing with old man Meriton and the other 20 jersey and shorts sponsor money?
 

madunit

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If we're getting angry about no money, ten I feel its only apt that B.Elias be mentioned.
 

magpie4ever

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Yep, but getting access to them when and as often as you want may be a problem.

So we have established that unlike other clubs, they don't spend money on updating equipment, coaches or training facilities.

What are they doing with old man Meriton and the other 20 jersey and shorts sponsor money?

And Wests Ashfield's grant.

It is a bloody good question.
 

bjm8

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Yep, but getting access to them when and as often as you want may be a problem.

So we have established that unlike other clubs, they don't spend money on updating equipment, coaches or training facilities.

What are they doing with old man Meriton and the other 20 jersey and shorts sponsor money?

Talking to Mayer last week & also listening to what he had to say at the members function on the Gold Coast, he said as well as moving home games from the SFS to ANZ we will also be shifting our training base from Concord to Homebush as well (when exactly I'm not sure)... Agreed that our facilities at Concord were prehistoric (comparing it to GWS & the Bulldogs) and we need/deserve better.
 

Ron's_Mate

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Tim Sheens and Wests Tigers resolve dispute

Published: August 8, 2014 - 10:58PM

In a rare piece of good news following a fortnight of turmoil, Wests Tigers and Tim Sheens announced on Friday night they had resolved their long-running dispute.

The two parties had been at loggerheads since Sheens’ sacking in 2012, culminating in the premiership-winning coach’s absence from a function last month celebrating the 10th anniversary of the title victory in 2005.

Sheens had launched legal action against his old employers after they stopped severance payments to him last year.

In a joint statement released last night, Sheens said: ‘‘I am pleased to have the dispute resolved and to put the matter behind me’’.

Wests Tigers chairman Mike Bailey paid tribute to Sheens's contribution to the club. "Tim developed and nurtured a vast talent pool into some of the League's front line players," Bailey said.

"He was instrumental in the club's success and harnessed talent such as Benji Marshall, Robbie Farah, Aaron Woods and a host of others.

"Tim has a proven track record and would be an asset to any club. He will always be revered at the club, though he has moved on."

The statement said details of the resolution would remain confidential.

smh.com.au

This story was found at: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...s-tigers-resolve-dispute-20140808-1026oz.html
 

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