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SL to expand to 14 clubs?

MjM

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I never thought I'd say this but after previous experiences I'm not sure bringing other, new UK teams/franchises straight into SL (UTC are a special case) is such a good idea. Even with the grassroots work, it's not that simple to plant a team in a new place and get it going as a viable concern. The worst thing that could happen is adding teams who can't sustain themselves and end up doing a Gateshead.

10 years ago I was one of those who argued with the "traditionalists" for not having faith in the game itself and its own ability to generate new fans in new places and make the new franchises a success. But we've had real experience of it since then and we all know it's not that simple. I still find that RL in Britain faces a mountain of preconceptions outside the heartlands, even amongst the young who've never heard of Eddie Waring. That's a barrier of indifference that will be resistant to even going to one game just to try it out.

At the moment, even with the dubious benefits Leigh bring to SL, there is a perception of fairness about the way the whole thing works. Not letting teams being promoted was killing those clubs who didn't go up just as much as the threat of relegation haunts those at the bottom of SL. What happens to the NL1 clubs when the drawbridge is raised (which is how I read the proposals)? It's an easy thing to say that they should be happy to compete at their level and being NL1 champions without promotion would be a proud honour in its own right. But that's not the reality: something has been taken away that previously was pretty much a right and that's what really will sting, especially for clubs like Halifax and Hull KR who have tasted real success within living memory but weren't a "big club" at the time when the axe fell.

And we are, slowly, expanding from the bottom up. Is there a real and urgent need to try to join that with top-down stuff again? Perhaps I'm just not ready for British RL to re-fight all the Super League and franchise battles again. But I think more to the point is the fact that, long run, British sporting spectating habits have been pretty much set for the best part of a century now. All those "new" sports of the 1980s such as American Football and Basketball and Ice Hockey and RL outside the heartlands have never managed to really establish themselves as mainstream in their localities, mostly because of preconceptions amongst what is a fairly conservative sporting market about "unfamiliar" sports. I would never want to lose London and desperately want them to grow and succeed. But their experiences alone are a warning that things aren't as easy as putting a new sport on in a new place and waiting for the punters to turn up.

As an expansionist and SL backer 10 years ago, it's pretty hard to reconcile not being excited at the prospect of these new teams with the over-arching ambitions for RL. But there we go. Things ain't perfect at the moment, we'd all love the game to be more popular and there's loads of things that need improving, not least the national team. But the game at least has spent a couple of years feeling at ease with itself and broadly optimistic. I think that there is a lot more to lose than some fans are appreciating.
 

bartman

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I still haven't seen anything about direct entry or frnachising in the official statements. My impression is that they are saying any new entrants after 2009 when it goes to 14 teams will have to be successful on and off the field, meaning they will be teams that somehow already exist?

Yes, it looks like the drawbridge is being raised for any NL1 aspirants, and the points MjM raises are all valid. But have I just missed the fine-print that suggests the top-down battles about zones etc could happen all over again?
 

upbonk

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How The Times views events:

May 20, 2005

Franchises put emphasis on balance sheet
By Christopher Irvine
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RATHER than the result first, supporters will soon get to know how their team are faring based on turnover — not of possession, but in terms of the balance sheet. Performances off the field must match those on it in the brave new world of an expanded Super League competition beyond 2008.

Income streams, revenue growth and a club’s bank balance will exercise the minds of fans as much as tries, penalty goals and two points for a win, as rugby league looks to ditch promotion and relegation for a system of 14 franchises that must pay their way.

NI_MPU('middle');“Results will still be very relevant,” Richard Lewis, the RFL executive chairman, said, “but we should also take into consideration finances, facilities and a club’s ability to contribute to Super League’s growth over the long term.”

The seasons from 1998 to 2000, when promotion and relegation did not figure, are commonly regarded as the most stagnant in the ten-year-old competition, but Lewis hopes that, by guaranteeing clubs a Super League place for three years and placing the onus on them to grow their businesses, the league would become more competitive.

“Some matches towards the end of the season are particularly exciting because of a relegation issue,” Lewis said. “That doesn’t mean matches throughout the season are exciting for fans watching those teams bumping along the bottom every year. By always worrying about survival, it doesn’t allow clubs to invest in their business.” Pointing to the NRL in Australia, he added:

“The point about a good rugby league match is that it stands on its own merit, on the game-day experience.”

Change is unlikely until after the existing television deal that expires at the end of 2008 with BSkyB, in which The News Corporation, parent company of The Times, has a 35.3 per cent stake, but the assessment process for clubs will begin next year. Half the existing Super League clubs meet the criteria of £3 million annual turnover. After Perpignan’s introduction in 2006, a second French club could be fast-tracked, but a second London club and a proposed Bridgend team would have to come through the National Leagues. “It’s not a strategy for pulling up the drawbridge,” Nigel Wood, the RFL operations director, said.
 

bartman

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Cheers for that upbonk. Harry interviewed Richard Lewis on today's Superleague show, and it's clear that promotion/relegation as we know it will not be part of the 2009 plans. But that quote at the bottom suggests the only true "franchising" would be for a 2nd French side?

Without giving details Lewis that pathways for National League clubs to join (and underperforming Superleague clubs to be turfed) would still be there after 2009. So a 2nd london or a wales team would have to play by those rules rather than franchising/mergers or relcoations, with admission decisions made through criteria for off-field concerns as well as on-field performance?

Should effect too many things in the short term, unless they change the criteria in the meantime? Both Whitehaven and (presumably) Cas meet current Superleague criteria, and Lewis did say that if London get relegated this year, they get relegated...
 

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