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Slater

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If you think so lads, I won't argue with ya

Good to see you agree though with the other points, seeing as you had no rebutal to the facts
 

Micistm

Bench
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The proof is in the cool heads in big games...and Slater is infamous for doing rather nutty things at crucial moments, or basic errors that a so-called top player should not make. And that's the arguement here. I don't think anyone is denying Slater is a good player...but does he deserve his best status that Aussie commentators, and these people selecting award recipients seem to think he does? For me personally, no he doesn't, simply on the grounds for some good moves he does, he does some ****ing stupid ones as well. So IMO he isn't even the best fullback in the game, let alone player full stop. It's hard to judge against Stewart this year as he's been out, but previous to that he's murdered sides as well as Slater, without the brain explosions. Hayne, despite me getting sick of the 'Hayne Plane' wank that went on, was brilliant and unsurpassed when on form. Whether his form remained consistant is another matter...but I still do not recalled something crazy by him at a crucial moment, unlike Slater.
Slater this year, plumb dropping the high bomb is a mistake rather than a brain explosion. And despite noone being anywhere near him and a professional F/B should eat those up, plainly the pressure just got to him.
The '08 World Cup final though...wow. That was a brain explosion of historic proportions, almost on par with his letting slip about signing two storm contracts on the Good Morning show! ;-)
 

tezzah

Juniors
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255
Stew-who? ...get him on the field Manly... get 'the kid' playing against 'the snake' and let em go at it!
 

Big Pete

Referee
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I think some of you are understating Billy's performance this year.

He was fantastic for Queensland in Origin.

And at times was easily one of Storm's better players and always willing to put in, sometimes though it just wasn't happening.

Manu summed it up for me.

Also were Aussies giving Vatuvei s**t? Or was that just Warren Smith going on about one of his opinions that he got right once but has since been made to eat his words over and over and over again.
 

campbo

Juniors
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101
Slater has actually played 4 Grand Final's and won 2 of them, but how many premierships has he won?
 

Micistm

Bench
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I think some of you are understating Billy's performance this year.

He was fantastic for Queensland in Origin.

And at times was easily one of Storm's better players and always willing to put in, sometimes though it just wasn't happening.

Manu summed it up for me.

Also were Aussies giving Vatuvei s**t? Or was that just Warren Smith going on about one of his opinions that he got right once but has since been made to eat his words over and over and over again.

Maybe I am being a little harsh on BS, but I don't deny the guy is a good player (although a subtle little grub at times...which is why it's nice when you see a good hit going on 'em! That was the highlight of the Aussie vs PNG game for me!). His 'tryline defence move' was quite nasty and he got away with it for so long did not endear him to many for a start.
I just question the 'rave reviews' shall we say, and I would also dare to suggest the Queensland side he was in, and the multi million dollar Storm side, have possibly hidden some weaknesses in his game. And IMO his big weakness is that he cracks under pressure...something he isn't used to, often playing behind some stunning players.
I guess the point is, if he wasn't raved on and on about, I wouldn't have an issue with calling him a good f/b. IMO he's overrated though, and if your sides under the pump, he wouldn't be my first choice at fullback.
 
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