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sleeve sponsor owes money

Card Shark

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Not only is it the sleeve sponsorship but all the signage around the ground - pull it down & replace it with something else or an ad for the leagues club FFS.
 

shadowboxer

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what about this from SMH

Cronulla's chief executive, Steve Rogers, said his club would honour Mr Bezzina's sponsorship, including keeping his JLB Group patch on the sleeve of club jerseys, maintaining the prominent signage at Toyota Park and servicing the corporate box.

"It is obvious there are cash-flow issues, but as far as we are concerned we are hopeful that he will make every effort to honour the repayment deal, and no, nothing will change," Mr Rogers said.
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The lack of foresight by the club is a real worry, it is after all a business not a the local football canteen, however the difference between the two is that one operates in pies, hot dogs and drinks, the other puts their problems on the back burner, hides under the doona cover and hope everything will be okay. For gods sake, someone with some business brains get involved or before we know it our new sponsor will be "sports oxy-shot".
 

fatshark

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"It is obvious there are cash-flow issues, but as far as we are concerned we are hopeful that he will make every effort to honour the repayment deal, and no, nothing will change," Mr Rogers said.
f**king wino , get off the piss for christs sake and snap out of it.
 

Shark

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What a friggin' JOKE.

Tell him to find the cash NOW, for the full season's payments, or FU(K HIM OFF.

Sludge, you cannot be serious!
 

Wobbygong

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Obviously the club would have received legal advice to continue honouring the contract, so as to ensure that in the event that the administration could turn in to a liquidation and the sharks are unsecured creditors of the JLB group, there can be no argument from the liquidator or administrator to try to get out of the sponsorship arrangement by stating that the Sharks failed to comply with X,Y and Z of the terms of the sponsorship arrangement. So I wouldn't be too hard on Rogers, the board are just covering all their bases.

With company's these days it's almost got to the stage where the club will need to obtain a banker's undertaking from any potential sponsor. Which essentially guarantees the payment regardless of what happens down the track, by way of a security over a term deposit held by the bank and given by the sponsor (with an amount equivalent to the sponsorship money), ie then in the event of non payment of the sponsorship moneys to the club, after a demand has been made by the club they could go to the bank, present the banker's undertaking get the money straight away, and the bank would then have a right to claim the company's term deposit funds.

The beauty here is, that the club gets the money regardless, and the sponsor has to fight it out with the bank if they dispute the issue. Obviously it depends on the nature of every individual arrangement.

I can't see too many sponsors being happy to do this though.
 

Shark

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You can bet that all of the 'little' sponsors are forced to pay up for every instalment though Wobbygong...None of this 'extending credit' to the little $10K per year sponsor...
 

black_dot

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Wobbygong, it wouldnt surprise me if the board was so blind and so naive to think that they should " honour" the rest of the JLB contract in the vain hope that any creditors payout would include anything for the sharks.

ANyone with a clue knows that the JLB groups pot of debts it going to be ZERO after the secured boys, NAB, St George etc etc get their 80 cents in the dollar, if that.

They should punt the sponsor, they cannot be serious about holding out for their money through a "payment" scheme as sludge states, that , if nothing else would dry up as soon as adminstration is entered. Surely the sponsor would be happier if the club said, look, yo've got cash flow issues, you cant pay the $180K, so lets go our seperate ways.????

Benefits ? we are currently staring down a bad debt of $180K with no real hope of getting any portion, why not cut them lose, and re-sell the sleeve and ground sponsorship for the last games and the semis series, far higher ratings and coverage and you'd get at least 1 free to air game in there.

I'd rather piss off JLB and get $50K back from the bad debt than stick with them and listen to their false promises and stories waiting for payment that aint coming.

But then it seems few, if any blokes with a say at our club have any clue about corporate practices, it's a sad sad joke and it's on us as fans I'm afraid. :(
 

Sideline Eye

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his office was at taren point. he has been broke before. his money is somewhere - in hiding until he weazels out of his debt. the club knew this ages ago and failed to act...alot like us fielding the wrong team for so long.
HIS BOX SHOULD GO TO US......THE FORUM!!!
JOIN THE QUEUE!!!
 

Thomo.

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Sideline Eye said:
his office was at taren point. he has been broke before. his money is somewhere - in hiding until he weazels out of his debt. the club knew this ages ago and failed to act...alot like us fielding the wrong team for so long.
HIS BOX SHOULD GO TO US......THE FORUM!!!
JOIN THE QUEUE!!!

it'll be bloody squashy!!:D
 

Rexxy

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Wobbygong said:
With company's these days it's almost got to the stage where the club will need to obtain a banker's undertaking from any potential sponsor. Which essentially guarantees the payment regardless of what happens down the track, by way of a security over a term deposit held by the bank and given by the sponsor (with an amount equivalent to the sponsorship money), ie then in the event of non payment of the sponsorship moneys to the club, after a demand has been made by the club they could go to the bank, present the banker's undertaking get the money straight away, and the bank would then have a right to claim the company's term deposit funds.

The beauty here is, that the club gets the money regardless, and the sponsor has to fight it out with the bank if they dispute the issue. Obviously it depends on the nature of every individual arrangement.

I can't see too many sponsors being happy to do this though.


Unless of course your sponsor is a bank :idea: :lol:
 

gunnamatta bay

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From todays SMH:

High-profile rugby league players Sonny Bill Williams, Greg Bird and Chris Walker have emerged financially unscathed from the troubles of property developer James Bezzina that have left more than 30 subcontractors owed about $4 million.

Bezzina's ability to repay sponsorship money to three NRL clubs appears increasingly remote as another of his developments, The Mill, a $60 million project in Marrickville - one of the Henry Kaye-spruiked schemes that previously went bust, and which is only 65 per cent complete - went into receivership late last week.

But unlike scores of building subcontractors, financiers and football clubs who look like collectively losing millions as at least three of Bezzina's companies go under, the NRL footballers appear to have escaped just in time.

Williams, who plays for the Bulldogs, Bird, who plays with Cronulla and Walker, who plays for the Roosters, had intended purchasing Dee Why units built by Bezzina's JLB Group. Walker convinced Bezzina several months ago to convert his two-bedroom unit into a three-bedroom unit during construction.

But the players did not sign the contracts after receiving an independent valuation this month that rated the properties about $30,000 to $50,000 below the intended purchase prices.

The intended purchase prices were to be at a discount because Bezzina had been using the players' involvement to induce others to buy into the project in the past couple of months.

The players' agent, Chris Orr, and Bezzina's agents had been haggling about the purchase prices but last week, following a Herald story about Bezzina's finances, the footballers withdrew their offer.

A former Bezzina employee told the Herald yesterday: "James would offer the footballers a very, very good discount on property because of his connections to the NRL."

But those connections no longer exist. Penrith are owed $220,000 for shorts sponsorship, Cronulla hundreds of thousands for sleeve and ground sponsorship and Manly nearly $10,000, by Bezzina's JLB Group. All three clubs are preparing to write off their sponsorship money.

Mark Robinson of PPB, the receiver of The Mill, said JLB Group appeared to owe subcontractors on the site at least $2.8 million.

He said Macquarie Bank had made payments directly to JLB Group before the receiver's appointment, but a significant portion of these payments had not been passed on to subcontractors.

But Construction, Forestry, Mining and Energy Union official Tim Vollmer said the debt was much higher, about $4m, and 30 subcontractors would start a picket on the Marrickville site this morning.

Bezzina's ambitious development sites at Liverpool, involving 96 units, and a second Dee Why project, involving 20 prestige apartments, are being sold by administrators. Bezzina's $5m waterfront home at Cronulla is also in the sights of receivers, but there won't be much spare cash. The house has two registered mortgages totalling $6.3m and four caveats on it totalling $1.116m.

Penrith captain Craig Gower, who was briefly a director in JLB Developments, the parent company of JLB Group, has been removed from the Australian Securities and Investments Commission records as a director of that company.

Gower's manager Greg Willett, whose office is listed at ASIC as the registered office of JLB Projects and JLB Developments, said the inclusion of Gower's name as a director was a mistake.
 

black_dot

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The club worked out a great fix it plan for the JLB box....

They of course have told JLB they can still have their entitlements, despite not having paid up for the year, this includes their box. Obviously the club knew JLB wouldnt show their face at the box after not paying, everytime I looked in there it was filled with marketting staff on the weekend and what looked like their mates and family.
 

Shark

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black_dot said:
The club worked out a great fix it plan for the JLB box....

They of course have told JLB they can still have their entitlements, despite not having paid up for the year, this includes their box. Obviously the club knew JLB wouldnt show their face at the box after not paying, everytime I looked in there it was filled with marketting staff on the weekend and what looked like their mates and family.

...And the JLB patches still adorned that stunningly good looking retro jersey!

Can you buy the retro jumper WITHOUT the JLB graffiti on it?
 

gunnamatta bay

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black_dot said:
The club worked out a great fix it plan for the JLB box....

They of course have told JLB they can still have their entitlements, despite not having paid up for the year, this includes their box. Obviously the club knew JLB wouldnt show their face at the box after not paying, everytime I looked in there it was filled with marketting staff on the weekend and what looked like their mates and family.


Clutching free tickets of course. True fans get to stand out in the wind and cold and pay for the privilege. The bludgers get a private box.
 

Shark

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Welcome to the world of being a real Sharks fan, Gunna!

Plenty of minor-level sponsors shelling out plenty of hard earned would see that and SPEW!

Until, of course, the Fat Controller comes along and pats them on the back patronisingly and says 'ahh, thanks for your support, we love having you here".
 

Frenzy.

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Wobbygong said:
Wouldn't it be easier just to do what the Dragons did and geta $8m handout from the federal government????????


spirit of league said:
might be your style but we're not in the business of selling our soul or bending over for little johnny howard. appreciate your comments though

Oh how I love the "bump function"
 

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