What's new
The Front Row Forums

Register a free account today to become a member of the world's largest Rugby League discussion forum! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

Solving the diving epidemic...

AlwaysGreen

Post Whore
Messages
51,805
What diving epidemic? Diving is when a player feigns injury when no contact or minimal contact occurs. In league that rarely happens, what happens is a player stays down if he is hit in the head because he knows that he will receive a penalty. Striking a player in the head is illegal. I don't like the situation but it's in the rule books.

The refs both on and off field are quite good at differentiating between when a penalty is required and when a player hasn't been hit head high. If anyone has any examples of a player staying down after not being part of an illegal play and receiving a penalty or diving when there has been no contact or minimal contact please share.
 

BunniesMan

Immortal
Messages
33,788
To counter the prospect of people using this for free interchanges. Force them off for 30 minutes. Yes they get a free interchange but having a key player off for that long is not something most clubs will do more often than they have to.
 

AlwaysGreen

Post Whore
Messages
51,805
Scenario: With ten minutes to go in the first half Sam Kasiouno is hit in a tackle and is taken off for 30 minutes as per the concussion rule. At the 60 minute mark he comes back on fresh with 20 to go.
 

Tommy Smith

Referee
Messages
21,344
What diving epidemic? Diving is when a player feigns injury when no contact or minimal contact occurs. In league that rarely happens, what happens is a player stays down if he is hit in the head because he knows that he will receive a penalty. Striking a player in the head is illegal. I don't like the situation but it's in the rule books.

The refs both on and off field are quite good at differentiating between when a penalty is required and when a player hasn't been hit head high. If anyone has any examples of a player staying down after not being part of an illegal play and receiving a penalty or diving when there has been no contact or minimal contact please share.
But the point is that it SLOWS THE GAME DOWN. It takes roughly a minute for the player to dive, the ref to call a halt to the game, the video ref to check it and the ref to then adjudicate.

Rugby League is a free flowing game, especially at its best. The last thing we need are 4-5 minute long stoppages to an exciting game.

The GF finished at a crawl just as it was getting interesting, with players diving like flies. W

And who can forget Tom Symonds effort in the last minute vs the Dogs a few weeks ago. He fell to the ground like he'd been shot for a nothing incident. Now granted he didn't receive a penalty, but it took the momentum out of the game.

Surely the fans don't want this. I certainly don't. Let's remove the desire to dive from the game by ensuring their is no reward.

Now call me biased but I loved SBW getting up to play the ball in consecutive weeks after being smashed in the head by Matt Scott and Sam Burgess. That's what the players should do. It's a gladiatorial sport. It will also even itself out over a season.
 
Last edited:
Messages
16,034
I think better to make all players who stay down leave the field for a mandatory SCAT test.

If you take a knock to the head to the point that you claim to be unable to regain your feet then I think it's fair and reasonable that you be examined for concussion in the name of safety.

He amount of people laying down will drop to almost zero instantaneously

This and another bonus is it would force Greg Bird into retirement!
 

AlwaysGreen

Post Whore
Messages
51,805
But the point is that it SLOWS THE GAME DOWN. It takes roughly a minute for the player to dive, the ref to call a halt to the game, the video ref to check it and the ref to then adjudicate.

Rugby League is a free flowing game, especially at its best. The last thing we need are 4-5 minute long stoppages to an exciting game.

The GF finished at a crawl just as it was getting interesting, with players diving like flies. W

And who can forget Tom Symonds effort in the last minute vs the Dogs a few weeks ago. He fell to the ground like he'd been shot for a nothing incident. Now granted he didn't receive a penalty, but it took the momentum out of the game.

Surely the fans don't want this. I certainly don't. Let's remove the desire to dive from the game by ensuring their is no reward.

Now call me biased but I loved SBW getting up to play the ball in consecutive weeks after being smashed in the head by Matt Scott and Sam Burgess. That's what the players should do. It's a gladiatorial sport. It will also even itself out over a season.

How many times per game does it happen? 2? 3? Hardly an epidemic.

The grand final was always going to be more heavily scrutinised by officials because if they missed even the slightest offence then they'd be slammed harder than a $2 whore on payday.
 

Vic Mackey

Referee
Messages
26,266
In the grand final it happened what, 4 or 5 times? For a game that prides itself on toughness it's embarrassing. The grand final has a lot of casual viewers. The game was on tender hooks for the majority of the 80 minutes and was great viewing for the neutral. The time wasting killed it as a spectacle. I don't blame the players, it's the officials fault. How 2 onfield refs, 2 touch judge and a video ref (who can tip the onfield refs) can miss blatant high shots is beyond me. The referees have decided they don't want to make a decision and effectively have forced players to lie down to get a penalty which should have been awarded in the first place.
 

Canard

Immortal
Messages
36,777
In the grand final it happened what, 4 or 5 times? For a game that prides itself on toughness it's embarrassing. The grand final has a lot of casual viewers. The game was on tender hooks for the majority of the 80 minutes and was great viewing for the neutral. The time wasting killed it as a spectacle. I don't blame the players, it's the officials fault. How 2 onfield refs, 2 touch judge and a video ref (who can tip the onfield refs) can miss blatant high shots is beyond me. The referees have decided they don't want to make a decision and effectively have forced players to lie down to get a penalty which should have been awarded in the first place.

Any examples?
 
Top