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Perth Red

Perth Red

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Mother Nature's Son said:
Coincidence though isn`t it, the same week that the ARLC reveal they`ve been discussing whether to bring in an edict that prevents Rugby League clubs being bought out or sold to union clubs or those with links to union who may have ulterior motives for the club or greater game.
I`m not sure I trust Muppett either or his co-investor Andy Marinara (secret agent Marinara ?) who not that long ago was running Oz union.
What if the real motive of these two is to stymy the further growth of League in New Zealand.
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Probably much MOre likely they have just seen a business opportunity. I doubt either of them give a sht about rl let alone rl in nz. They can see an opportunity to make some money out of a new nrl club and are pitching for it. The fact they’ve gone all public with a brand before they’ve even got on the phone to the commission tells us much.
 
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Mother Nature's Son

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Perth Red said:
Its an interesting point about what financial backing is actually needed these days. I guess there is significant start up costs for a new club that someone has to pay for before the NRl cash starts flowing, then needing some contingency funds if the club has a few bad years and crowd revenue drops off. What the actual $ figure is the NRl is looking for is hard to say. I think the Dolphins had to take out a bank guarantee of $10mill a year for 5 years if they needed to draw on it for the NRL to be happy?

revenue wise if a club can generate $14-15mil a year from the FC then they are going to make a decent profit whilst still having enough to spend on the club operations to keep pace. around a 15k crowd avg, 20k paying members and a $10-12mill corporate/sponsorship revenue gets you there.

If we look at one the the less successful clubs last year, the Bulldogs, they didnt draw huge crowds and still managed $4.1mill in memberships and gate takings, $8.8mill in corporate and sponsorships and $1mill in merch sales.
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And that`s where the Dolphins` asset base and cash-at-hand would have been crucial. Something obviously the Keas` won`t have.
I suppose even talking about fan-ownership is perhaps indicative of the lack of corporate dollars available in the NZ South Island. Doesn`t fill me with confidence though.
Perth Red said:
Probably much MOre likely they have just seen a business opportunity. I doubt either of them give a sht about rl let alone rl in nz. They can see an opportunity to make some money out of a new nrl club and are pitching for it. The fact they’ve gone all public with a brand before they’ve even got on the phone to the commission tells us much.
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Ironic though isn`t it, I know you`ve been critical of the increased funding by the NRL to the clubs, but now we have a situation where people are lining up to get a slice of the action well knowing they only have to be moderately successful on-field to have a profitable franchise (and a nice little earner for themselves). Method in Vlandy`s madness you might argue. Private greed equals public good to quote Adam Smith.
 
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Babyface O'reilly said:
No bud, have worked with a few and they were not even aware they were doing it until I brought it up. I remember one from New Plymouth and another from Dunedin. Miles apart so not sure it’s down to dialect.
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It’s just a language thing mate. From my really basic Mandarin and Japanese, they have less tenses than us, so as an example an Asian speaking person speaking English as a second language, sometimes get their tenses mixed up a little when they speak.

When you speak to a Spanish, French or Italian speaking person and they are speaking English they sometimes put the in front of a noun when they don’t need to because they put the in front of every noun in their own language. I make that mistake the other around sometimes when I speak French, Spanish, German or Italian (not applying the). When you speak another language you have the same problem because you are subconsciously thinking in your own language instead of the other. That’s the hardest thing with learning and speaking another language
 
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Babyface O'reilly said:
No bud, have worked with a few and they were not even aware they were doing it until I brought it up. I remember one from New Plymouth and another from Dunedin. Miles apart so not sure it’s down to dialect.
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The other one I've always found odd is Kiwi's using the term "Aussie" as a plural or a Noun.

"In Aussie, they play cricket in schools"

"Aussie are down by 2 tries"
 
SpaceMonkey

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Colk said:
It’s just a language thing mate. From my really basic Mandarin and Japanese, they have less tenses than us, so as an example an Asian speaking person speaking English as a second language, sometimes get their tenses mixed up a little when they speak.

When you speak to a Spanish, French or Italian speaking person and they are speaking English they sometimes put the in front of a noun when they don’t need to because they put the in front of every noun in their own language. I make that mistake the other around sometimes when I speak French, Spanish, German or Italian (not applying the). When you speak another language you have the same problem because you are subconsciously thinking in your own language instead of the other. That’s the hardest thing with learning and speaking another language
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Yep, your brain is pretty much wired to think in your native language and as a result even people who are fluent in a second language often structure their sentences in ways that a native speaker wouldn’t.
 
Matua

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Babyface O'reilly said:
No bud, have worked with a few and they were not even aware they were doing it until I brought it up. I remember one from New Plymouth and another from Dunedin. Miles apart so not sure it’s down to dialect.
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My point is that you personally can't hear the difference, but most NZers can (your mates from New Plymouth and Dunedin excluded obviously), hence my comment about the accent.
 
Matua

Matua

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Canard said:
The other one I've always found odd is Kiwi's using the term "Aussie" as a plural or a Noun.

"In Aussie, they play cricket in schools"

"Aussie are down by 2 tries"
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That has actually made me think of a question, what does Aussie, Aussie, Aussie refer to? Isn't a noun in this context?
 
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Mother Nature's Son

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SpaceMonkey said:
As always the internet has an aswer… sort of.
Suffice to say it wasn’t originally an Australian thing at all.

Oggy Oggy Oggy - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org
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Careful mate, you`ll upset the GROTD, how could a passionately Aussie group like the Fanatics be but chanting anything that isn`t originally ours. Damn foreigners.
Reminds me of Yabba at the SCG to Jardine " leave our bloody flies alone".
 
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