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'Spineless' Blues need to change: Sheens

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By Ian Mccullough AAP Sun, 20 Jun 2010 19:43:49

Wests Tigers and Australia coach Tim Sheens says NSW will never end Queensland's State of Origin dominance until they develop a settled spine to their side.
The Blues have chopped and changed hookers, halfbacks, five-eighths and fullbacks with alarming regularity in recent years and Sheens said selectors must decide on a playmaking combination and stick with it, starting with next month's dead rubber at ANZ Stadium.
Sheens also pushed the cause of his skipper Robbie Farah, who has not played for NSW since game two in Sydney last year, as well as workaholic backrower Chris Heighington, who will play for England if he is continued to be overlooked by Origin selectors.
"There is no doubt for NSW to do anything they have to create a spine," Sheens said.
"It starts at nine. Robbie is the answer to that. You get a seven a six and a one and build around that.
"That is what Queensland have done and you can talk about changing the side but you need the spine, the guys that come up with nine out of 10 decisions are those blokes."
Sheens, a former City Origin coach, said he was surprised the playmaking combinations used against Country in recent seasons had not been considered.
"Robbie has played with Mitchell Pearce at City, Jarryd Hayne has played City ... but there have been a few players overlooked for the Country boys.
"You don't pick a team by making 10 changes. It's OK to be able to break a tackle but you need guys who can give you the ball."
Despite getting put on report for a dangerous tackle on Canberra's Bronson Harrison in the Tigers' 18-8 win on Sunday, Heighington was outstanding.
Both Sheens and Farah said NSW's loss could be England's gain if he is overlooked again.
"Chrissy will tackle anything for 80 minutes and if they are not careful they will lose him to the Poms, he has a British passport and if he doesn't play for us he will play for them," Sheens said.
"He was overlooked for Country as well and if anyone deserves to play for NSW it's Chris Heighington and I would love to be there alongside him."
Heighington said he has been frustrated at constantly being ignored and said he was doing all he could to get noticed by Blues selectors, but declaring for England is an option.
"My dad is from Durham and I am very close to that part of the family over there," he said.
"I have spoken to my close mates Gareth Ellis and Mark Flanagan about it and I would definitely need to sit down and decide if that is what I want to do if I am not going to get picked for NSW."
"State of Origin is the highest level you can play and that is my ambition and my aim and I would love to be selected in game three."

http://www.nrl.com/news/news/newsar...less-blues-need-to-change-sheens/default.aspx
 

Eels Dude

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Tim Sheens has coached his sides to 1 finals appearance in his past 12 seasons of coaching. I take anything he says with a grain of salt these days. Sheens is just stating the obivious, NSW do need to develop a spine but that's easier said than done as we don't have the players currently to form a spine. Farah deserves another chance though. At least he can play attack unlike Ennis. When you've a lack of creative halves having an attacking hooker is handy.
 

MacDougall

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There isn't much else Chris Heighington can do to get a Blues jersey. His form this season has been outrageous. Plus he just looks like an Origin boofhead. I feel for the guy because he deserves a NSW cap way more than nuffies like Brett White, Timana Tahu and Beau Scott.
 
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Heighington, Ellis, and Burgess.... Not a bad forward pack it would be for England...

But seriously, he HAS to play for NSW... What else does he need to do?
 

1 Eyed TEZZA

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If there was a player that fits into the cliche "Origin player" he is it. Id like to see him fire up a bit

Also, Farah really impressed me today, played a really smart hookers game.
 

FastEddie

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Hindmarsh is as `origin player' as it gets
Ticks all the boxes
1. 3.3m a hit up - tick
2. 48m from 15 carries - tick
3. No offload - tick
4. 50 tackles (albeit 48 as 4th man in) - tick
He is as NSW origin as it gets, i.e. mediocre
The only ones who scream origin as loudly are Andrew Ryan and Ben Creagh
Hino has far too much ticker, ability and punch to play for a useless team of spastics like NSW and to be fed hospital balls from dummy half by that foreheadless spastic prick in the 9
 

Garts

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Heighington should be one of the 1st picked for NSW imo. Better than Creagh, Waterhouse.
 

The Gambler

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Might get picked for game 3, too bad he is probably going to get suspended for that spear tackle though...
 

gUt

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The Blues already have that "type" of backrower covered with Watmong and Lewis. As good as he is, Heignington is clearly behind these two. Plus if he's going to try to blackmail the selectors he can f**k right off imo.
 

Big_Bad_Shark_Fan

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Watmough
Lewis
Gallen
O'Donnell
Bird

All better players than Heighno and many of them do similar roles. The lots of tackles, alot of heart, lot of hitups - but the players above have more effect with there hitups. Then theres Waterhouse, Creagh, Hindmarsh etc. He wont be selected, not through lack of heart, just that hes not good enough. His hitups really dont have that much behind them. He barely busts the line and really just runs back into the markers, or makes an ok charge after someone else does.
 

Springs

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Hindmarsh is as `origin player' as it gets
Ticks all the boxes
1. 3.3m a hit up - tick
2. 48m from 15 carries - tick
3. No offload - tick
4. 50 tackles (albeit 48 as 4th man in) - tick
He is as NSW origin as it gets, i.e. mediocre
The only ones who scream origin as loudly are Andrew Ryan and Ben Creagh
Hino has far too much ticker, ability and punch to play for a useless team of spastics like NSW and to be fed hospital balls from dummy half by that foreheadless spastic prick in the 9

God you're an idiot. Shhhhhh...
 

Springs

First Grade
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Hindmarsh is as `origin player' as it gets
Ticks all the boxes
1. 3.3m a hit up - tick
2. 48m from 15 carries - tick
3. No offload - tick
4. 50 tackles (albeit 48 as 4th man in) - tick
He is as NSW origin as it gets, i.e. mediocre
The only ones who scream origin as loudly are Andrew Ryan and Ben Creagh
Hino has far too much ticker, ability and punch to play for a useless team of spastics like NSW and to be fed hospital balls from dummy half by that foreheadless spastic prick in the 9

God you're an idiot. Shhhhhh...
 

oldmancraigy

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try and tell me one of those stats isnt true

Um?

All of them are untrue.

6.6m per run.

Only got given the ball 5 times in the game, but broke 3 tackles.

Made 38 tackles and was one of the only blokes out there who put some shoulder into his work. (which did surprise me)

Didn't have any offloads - however he is 6th in the entire NRL in offloads per game.
 

gronkathon

First Grade
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6.6m per run is pathetic no matter which way you sugar coat it.

Creagh did make alot of tackles though. Unfortunatley for him they chose to hide Ennis next to him for the majority of the night
 

Eels Dude

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6.6m per run is pathetic no matter which way you sugar coat it.

Creagh did make alot of tackles though. Unfortunatley for him they chose to hide Ennis next to him for the majority of the night

Creagh also missed a fair whack too, can't blame Ennis for that. Hindy only missed one and when you make 38 that's a damn good strikerate. It's not like any other forwards made better much better average metres except for Gallen.
 
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