There's nothing apparent about Gibbs giving away penalties - he may have curbed it, somewhat, but he still gives away a good penalty or two a game.
As for Tronc, he is weak laterally and is a poor ruck defender - you and westie love harping on about Heighington's ineffectiveness around the ruck, quick to ignore what the statisticians record as tackles and missed tackles, yet are prepared to gloss over Tronc's failings. You can't have it both ways.
Quick to jump to a generalisation as well I see ("The amount of opinions that are formed from the media and stereotypes is ridiculous."). How would you know where people's opinions are gathered from? Continue dribbling sh*t.....
Gibbs penalties for this season - 9 in 18 games. Because you seem to struggle, that's half a penalty a game. Not a good one or two a game.
Tronc averages 1.1 ineffective and 1.2 missed tackles a game while averaging 28.2. Compared to Heighington with 28.8 tackles per game with 2.1 of those being ineffective and missing 2.3 per game. This is done with an average of 30 minutes more football on the field.
If that doesn't show that a) Tronc is quite an effective tackler, and b) Heighington is ineffective in general let alone around the ruck (especially combined with his 6.6m runs...) then I don't know what it shows.
I haven't ignored statistics about Heighington's tackles or missed tackles, infact quite the opposite, and they prove that he has been very ineffective for a long period of time.
You've made three points:
Gibbs gives away atleast one penalty a game. Wrong. Currently 0.5/game.
Tronc isn't an effective tackler and misses tackles. Wrong. There are 40/73 other props in the game that make more ineffective tackles per game than Tronc. Of the players that make less ineffective tackles per game, Tronc make more tackles than absolutely all of them. He is also ranked 10th in average tackles made per game.
Heighington is effective around the ruck. Wrong. If you call Tronc ineffective (which you have) then Heighington is more than twice as ineffective as Tronc (this is before you take in to account that Heighington plays around 30 minutes more football per game than Tronc).
People's opinions are quite obviously dictated from the media and stereotypes. Your view on Tronc and the statistics disproving it quite clearly back that up. David Williams has a career on a beard. He is, always has been and always will be sh*t. He played for Australia because he had a beard. There is a stereotype that Gibbs gives away penalties, clearly wrong. Rabs once made a comment about Heighington in 2005 and people instantly ran with it, but it's clear to see he's average.
madunit, Tronc may not have high 1-on-1 tackle counts, but do you really expect him to? He's a prop, he defends in the middle.
