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Storm filthy with NSWRL

Twizzle

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MELBOURNE have accused the NSW Rugby League of giving rugby union “a leg-up” by kicking the Storm out of its junior representative competitions.

NSWRL says the Storm can’t compete in Under-16s Harold Matthews and Under-18s SG Ball competitions next year because they have ended their association with Cronulla’s NSW Cup side and will instead align themselves with Sunshine Coast in Queensland’s Intrust Super Cup.

That’s despite the Perth-based West Coast Pirates being allowed to compete in the SG Ball despite having no senior side.

“We’re just very disappointed — the Melbourne Rebels will effectively be given a leg-up,” Storm football manager Frank Ponissi tells RLW.

“When they told us of their ruling, we offered to field a side in Victorian state colours with no obvious association with the Storm but they turned that down, too.

“We don’t recruit at that age group – they are all Victorian kids and we are competitive without really being much hope of winning it.

“It helps us attract players over rugby union, that we play in those competitions.

“It’s just an opportunity for these kids to play a game of football. We’re hoping to get them a start in the Queensland competition but it seems crazy they have to fly over NSW to play
a match.”

But NSWRL chairman Dave Trodden has defended the hard line, saying the NSW Cup was on its knees only a few years ago because clubs were choosing to play in Queensland instead.

“The Perth example, that is completely different,” he says. “They are not choosing to support a Queensland competition in preference to ours.

“At one point we were down to eight teams in the State Cup because clubs such as Canberra and Manly chose to field teams in Queensland.

“That’s when this rule was brought in. Everyone wants to support 16s and 18s but you need a pathway up to State Cup for footy in NSW to be viable.

“By hosting teams from Perth and Melbourne, we provide them with a whole-of-game benefit within our structures.

“But that doesn’t mean we’re obliged to continue providing that when it is to their benefit and our detriment. “

Storm head coach Craig Bellamy lashed the NSWRL over the issue in his newspaper column recently.

But Trodden says the change would not hand future Origin players to Queensland because the qualification rules state a player must have lived in NSW or Queensland before the age of 13 to represent that state.

Under the rules, home-grown Storm centre Mahe Fonua (above) cannot play State of Origin.

http://rugbyleagueweek.com.au/storm-filthy-nswrl/
 

thorson1987

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Have no problem with this.

Management should have thought about this possibility when deciding not to go through with the Albury Thunder.
 

siv

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Or should Melbourne be developing a Victorian State Cup with U18 and U16s

Other wise their U18 and U16 teams are just a state rep team

National Reserve Grade solves this problem
 

Twizzle

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Big step but they probably need to do something like that if League is going to become sustainable in Victoria
 

siv

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So under what logic is Melbourne nit able to field a NSW Cup team ?

That get a huge bonus from the NRL
 

thorson1987

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So under what logic is Melbourne nit able to field a NSW Cup team ?

That get a huge bonus from the NRL

The club has chosen not to. Instead using 2 seperate clubs in the ISC.

Due to this, the NSWRL have decided to not allow the Storm to have Harold Matts and SG Ball sides.

I understand why the NSWRL have decided to do it, but it does suck for the local lads in the squads.
 

El Diablo

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it's the correct decision otherwise the NSWRL is just strengthening the Queensland Cup as that's where players will get promoted to

the Storm should have known this after Manly and Canberra tried the same thing
 

gyallop

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trodden is a goose. Canberra and Manly didnt field sides in Qld , typical of our administrators that they don't know what goes on in the game they supposedly run!
 

siv

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So where is the extra $5 mil per year NRL money going out of the peace deal ?

Must be more expensive to fly players to Qld every week for RG U18 and U16s
 

thorson1987

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trodden is a goose. Canberra and Manly didnt field sides in Qld , typical of our administrators that they don't know what goes on in the game they supposedly run!

Canberra had Souths Logan as their feeder team and Manly had Sunshine Coast Sea Eagles. At the time, neither side had a team in NSW Cup.

Maybe before calling someone else a goose, you should get your facts right.
 

Hello, I'm The Doctor

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Pretty sad that the NSWRL is still so parochial. Still see the game as Sydney vs the rest.

No, its just that they know they cant compete with QCup...

So rather than improving their own comp, they just put up barriers to disincentivise NSW teams from joining the Queensland comp.
I remember, a few years ago Manly we prevented from attaching with the Sunshine Coast team and the Raiders with Logan (i cant remember what the threats were)...
 

gyallop

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Canberra had Souths Logan as their feeder team and Manly had Sunshine Coast Sea Eagles. At the time, neither side had a team in NSW Cup.

Maybe before calling someone else a goose, you should get your facts right.

He said they fielded teams in Qld. Neither club did. That is a fact.
 

gyallop

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No, its just that they know they cant compete with QCup...

So rather than improving their own comp, they just put up barriers to disincentivise NSW teams from joining the Queensland comp.
I remember, a few years ago Manly we prevented from attaching with the Sunshine Coast team and the Raiders with Logan (i cant remember what the threats were)...

As I recall the threats were no 16s 18s or placing senior players into a NSW comp. it really improved the NSW cup Manly won one game from memory.
 

LESStar58

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The thing that shits me about this is that it doesn't give local juniors the same incentives for development. If the game wants more Victorian jnrs then taking away Mats and Ball is not the done thing.
 

papabear

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lol im a Canberra fan and I had to argue what the nswrl was doing was right in their forum

same applies here.

Don't strengthen QLD comps if you want to use NSW comps.

In the end though the ARLC should take charge of all junior funding.
 

thorson1987

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The thing that shits me about this is that it doesn't give local juniors the same incentives for development. If the game wants more Victorian jnrs then taking away Mats and Ball is not the done thing.

Unfortunately the blame for this falls to the club.

I would love to know what the f**k happened to the Albury Thunder proposal. IIRC that was a done deal which meant we could still have our Matts and Ball teams.
 

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