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Suarez's scumbaggery

Big Sam

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Suarez - Sky Sports player of the year.

That's what happens when you stoop down to the lowest common denominator and foolishly let fans decide to vote for an award like that.

Suarez - 9 goals.
RVP - 34 goals.

RVP's mistake was to waste time scoring so many goals when he could have insulted the nearest black person and won it.

Even before the racist abuse issue, Suarez was only good without being great. For 2011 the word 'great' only deserved to describe RVP, Silva and maybe Kompany.

Pathetic, the award only embarassed itself.

Edit: those totals are league only. In all competitions the difference is even bigger (41-12).

I guess this more reflects the impact each has had on their respective teams rather than their overall performance. Suarez has taken us from the bottom half of the table in January to now UCL/top 4 contenders whereas RVP has merely maintained Arsenal's UCL/top 4 position.

For the record, I wouldn't have voted for Suarez or RVP. I think a City player deserves it.
 
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It doesn't reflect anything.

Rawk had been rigging the poll for two days trying to get him up to number 1. Redcafe caught onto it and started doing the same. It took one guy on there a couple of hours to (almost) undo what it took a legion of Liverpool fans to do. Had the poll run for a couple of hours longer Nani would have taken it.

Any unbiased idiot knows someone scoring at a goal a game for almost a whole calendar year, something that has never been done in the PL, deserves to be first.

RvP has been holding a team together that without him would be what, ninth maybe?
 

BunniesMan

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It doesn't reflect anything.

Rawk had been rigging the poll for two days trying to get him up to number 1. Redcafe caught onto it and started doing the same. It took one guy on there a couple of hours to (almost) undo what it took a legion of Liverpool fans to do. Had the poll run for a couple of hours longer Nani would have taken it.

Any unbiased idiot knows someone scoring at a goal a game for almost a whole calendar year, something that has never been done in the PL, deserves to be first.

RvP has been holding a team together that without him would be what, ninth maybe?
Hey, we'd be right up there competing with Newcastle for 7th...
 
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Suarez evidence deemed 'unreliable'

The Football Association's independent regulatory commission handed Luis Suarez an eight-match ban for racism as it found his evidence to be "unreliable" and "inconsistent".
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PA PhotosLiverpool have yet to decide whether to appeal Luis Suarez's suspension


• Liverpool slam FA over Suarez verdict
• Suarez ban could be extended
• PFA chief critical of Suarez defence
The FA released a 115-page document on its website on Saturday evening to explain the decision to punish Suarez for racially abusing Manchester United's Patrice Evra on October 15.
Suarez, who was also fined £40,000 for the incident, has yet to begin his suspension as Liverpool wanted to study the regulatory commission's report before deciding whether to make an appeal. The Uruguay striker was missing for Friday's 3-1 victory over Newcastle as a result of a separate ban issued for improper conduct after making a gesture towards Fulham fans.
The report stated in its summary: "Mr Evra was a credible witness. He gave his evidence in a calm, composed and clear way. It was, for the most part, consistent, although both he and Mr Suarez were understandably unable to remember every detail of the exchanges between them.
"Mr Suarez's evidence was unreliable in relation to matters of critical importance. It was, in part, inconsistent with the contemporaneous evidence, especially the video footage. For example, Mr Suarez said that he pinched Mr Evra's skin in an attempt to defuse the situation. He also said that his use of the word 'negro' to address Mr Evra was conciliatory and friendly. We rejected that evidence.
"To describe his own behaviour in that way was unsustainable and simply incredible given that the players were engaged in an acrimonious argument. That this was put forward by Mr Suarez was surprising and seriously undermined the reliability of his evidence on other matters.
"There were also inconsistencies between his accounts given at different times as to what happened."
One of the key passages of the report centres on what was said between the two players during the flashpoint.
It reads: "Our findings of fact which are directly relevant to the Charge are as follows: (1) In response to Mr Evra's question 'F*****g hell, why did you kick me,' Mr Suarez said 'Because you are black'.
"(2) In response to Mr Evra's comment 'Say it to me again, I'm going to punch you,' Mr Suarez said 'I don't speak to blacks'.
"(3) In response to Mr Evra's comment: 'Okay, now I think I'm going to punch you,' Mr Suarez said 'Okay, blackie, blackie, blackie'."
Suarez originally denied the charge and said he "used the word 'negro' in a way with which he was familiar from his upbringing in Uruguay". However, the regulatory commission brought in language specialists, who determined that his remarks, given the heated situation between himself and Evra, would be understood as offensive in racial terms in Uruguay and Spanish-speaking America.
The report concluded by saying that Suarez pledged in the hearing that "he will not use the word 'negro' on a football pitch in England in the future, and we believe that is his genuine and firm intention.''
In a statement Liverpool said: "The club can confirm that they received the written reasons from the Regulatory Commission at short notice last night on the evening of the game against Newcastle United.
"The player, the club and our legal advisors will now take the necessary amount of time to read, digest and properly consider the contents of the 115 page judgment and will make no further comment at present.''
Liverpool have previously suggested they will appeal and have remained steadfastly behind their player, his team-mates controversially wearing T-shirts with Suarez's face on them prior to the draw at Wigan 11 days ago.
Liverpool have been given until January 13 to respond, meaning Suarez will be free to play in their next three games, including their Carling Cup semi-final, first leg trip to Manchester City on January 11.


http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/s...vidence-in-evra-case-to-be-unreliable?cc=3436


the ban isnt long enough imo
 

Knightmare

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Meanwhile, Rooney could burn a cross in the middle of OT while making monkey noises and get nothing more than a severe talking to...
 

WireMan

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Meanwhile, Rooney could burn a cross in the middle of OT while making monkey noises and get nothing more than a severe talking to...

Could he?
He got two games for swearing on a football pitch so i call bullsh*t.


Suarez should of gone for the season.

Meanwhile Liverpool:
Wear T-shirts to support racism in the UK.
Call on Evra to be banned for having the cheek to complain about being racially abused.
Lie to the media about Evra.

Classy stuff at Klanfield.
 

Red Bear

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I think they were showing support for their team mate, because that's what you do at a club (even though he clearly is in the wrong, and deserves his big suspension).
 

skeepe

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So the definition of justice is taking one man's word over another's is it? Even when history shows that that man cannot be trusted, and that man had, in his evidence, also admitted to using South American in a derogatory fashion?
 

Knightmare

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As Mario Balotelli said, "If Suarez can get an 8 match ban because Evra says he racially abused him, then I was racially ebused by the entire Man United team!"

This sets a dangerous precedent for the League...
 
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King Kenny still thinks it the 1800's

Transcript of Kenny Dalglish's press conference about Luis Suárez


The following is a transcript from the Liverpool press conference after the Anfield club's 3-0 defeat at Manchester City on Tuesday night:
Reporter: "Kenny, the wider world is pretty shocked that, if a player can call someone 'negro' and the player who is the victim in this takes offence, that there is no apology or contrition offered from your club."
Dalglish: "I would have thought that, if you pronounced the word properly, you maybe understand it better. I think it was Spanish he was speaking and I don't think you were speaking Spanish there."
Reporter: "OK, if a player calls someone 'negro' [Spanish pronunciation], surely the player who takes offence deserves an apology?"
Dalglish: "Ask a linguistic expert, which certainly I am not. They will tell you that the part of the country in Uruguay where he [Luis Suárez] comes from, it is perfectly acceptable. His wife calls him that and I don't think he is offended by her. We have made a statement and I think it is there for everybody to read. Luis has made a brilliant statement and we will stand by him."
Reporter: "But the FA verdict said it was 'simply incredible' to suggest it wasn't used in an offensive way when they were clearly arguing and it wasn't friendly."
Dalglish: "There's a lot of things we'd like to say and a lot we could say but we would only get ourselves in trouble. We are not trying to be evasive … well, we are being evasive because we don't like getting ourselves in trouble. But we know what has gone on. We know what is not in the report and that's important for us. So without me getting ourselves in trouble, I think that's it finished."
Reporter: "Why take the ban now and not play the next three games, including the Carling Cup semi-final against Manchester City?"
Dalglish: "He could have played for a fortnight but he has to serve eight games at some stage and this time is as good as any, isn't it? It was better to get the situation over and done with."
Reporter: "Mark Lawrenson was saying on the radio that you've got to fear now whether Suárez may feel unsettled playing in England. Is that a concern?"
Dalglish: "Because Mark Lawrenson said it? No. I don't see why we have to reply to anybody. If you're asking if I have any concern about Luis playing in England, then no."
Reporter: "Is he strong enough?"
Dalglish: "I don't have a problem with Luis playing in England."
Reporter: "Do you regret wearing the T-shirts?"
Dalglish: "You see, if one of you guys were in trouble, would you help him? Would you support him if you knew the truth and you knew it was right? Would you support him?"
Reporter: "But not with T-shirts when he has been found guilty …"
Dalglish: "Why not? If they want to show their support for their team-mate, what's wrong with that? It was a fabulous statement to make visually of their support for a guy who is endeared in the dressing room, one of their closest friends in the dressing room, and all of his friends in the dressing room can speak up adequately and perfectly well for him. And I think it is very dangerous and unfortunate that you don't actually know the whole content of what went on at the hearing. I'm not prepared, and I can't say it, but I am just saying it is really unfortunate you never got to hear it. That's all I'm saying."
Reporter: "Kenny, given how the wider public are so opposed to your view, what do you have to lose by telling us and revealing what you're saying was not included in the FA statement?"
Dalglish: "It's up to the club to decide what they want to do."
Reporter: "But if you have something to say, surely say it – because the alternative is you are digging a bigger hole for yourself?"
Dalglish: "I don't think we are digging a bigger hole but I just think it's unfortunate we can't be more forthcoming. That's the unfortunate thing."
Reporter: "In your two statements you basically accused the FA of a conspiracy against your club."
Dalglish: "So they have made a statement then …"
Liverpool press officer intervenes and asks for no more questions on Suárez.
Reporter: "The hearing was to lay out all the evidence, 115 pages of evidence, and you have said they [the FA] have done it subjectively. So why do you think the FA are targeting Liverpool and Suárez?"
Dalglish: "Maybe wrong place, wrong time. It could have been anybody. I can't answer for the FA, you ask them."
Reporter: "You think there is an agenda against Liverpool?"
Dalglish: "No. You said that. I never. You get yourself in trouble, I'm all right."
Reporter: "Are you concerned Suárez's first game back could be at Old Trafford?"
Dalglish: "I'll just be delighted to get him back."


http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/jan/04/kenny-dalglish-luis-suarez-transcript
 
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I see he isn't playing this morning. Deserves all he gets.

you are a f**king idiot mong.

you defend the rights of child molestors and child killers, but want to see someone punished on the word of another man with no witnesses.
 

WireMan

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you are a f**king idiot mong.

you defend the rights of child molestors and child killers, but want to see someone punished on the word of another man with no witnesses.

Which is wonderful standpoint except the small fact Suarez admitted saying it.

Then he, Comolli and Kuyt tried to cover it up, but they all got there stories wrong. Hence the term unreliable, when discussing it.

There is a 115 page report outlining why Suarez was found guily.



Still no apology to the victim of racist abuse (and a smear campaign from LFC) though.

If anyone has being a "f*cking idiot", its King Kenny and Luid Suarez.
 

Mong

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you are a f**king idiot mong.

you defend the rights of child molestors and child killers, but want to see someone punished on the word of another man with no witnesses.

Asides from general the inaccuracy of your statement you are equating not supporting the death penalty to this somehow?

And i'm the idiot?

:roll::roll:
 

Mong

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What my stance on the death penalty is really isn't an issue for this thread or forum CB.

Take your rubbish elsewhere.
 

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