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Super Duper Coach

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http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,26264109-5019264,00.html


Coach Tim Sheens admitted he would probably tinker with his line-up, giving hope that tackling machine Nathan Hindmarsh could revive a Test career that has been stagnant since 2007.



Normally stationed on the edge of the ruck, Thaiday admitted to struggling with his switch from the back row to prop, with his penchant for running at smaller defenders nullified by his need to run into the heart of the Kiwi defence.



HAHAHAHAHA. Every Aussie player to choose and he still persists with Backrowers playing prop.



OMG i cant stop laughing.
 

watatank

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You could see this coming from the moment the squad was announced.

Sheens requests a squad of 24 (up from 22 I think) and in his infinite wisdom only selects four props and at least six backrowers. Meanwhile we have two centres deputise for the whole backline plus Gidley and Lewis who can play there in crisis.
 
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nyx

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I got a laugh out this one too.

I'm just glad my non-Tiger supporting friends can now share in the joy of Supercoach's baffling tactics and selections.
 

Vic Mackey

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ive never seen an aussie team looked so disjointed. considering that its been basically the same backline and hooker for 4 years (that play together at origin aswell), the 'rusty' excuse can't be used.
 

Magpies Forever

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I think more than anything this promotion up to national level is showing the limitations of coaches- very few can rise to the level required of the national coach.

Innovation or special tactics that may work at the NRL level may not be appropriate at the national level where games are probably based a lot more on the traditional level and traits of the game.

I'm not saying Sheens has failed or will fail- just I suspect from what we have seen is that he will not be anything exceptional. Compare with Kearney and what he is doing with the more supposedly limited pool NZ has- I know who I have more respect for.

Then again some of the more traditional coaches who were tried at the ARL level failed too.
 
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http://www.nrl.com/newsviews/latest...kers-look-for-maroon-inspiration/default.aspx
Playmakers Look for Maroon Inspiration
In the Maroon of Queensland they operate like clockwork, but Kangaroos hooker Cameron Smith admits something went a cropper against New Zealand with Australia's playmaking triumvirate.
Smith along with halfback Johnathan Thurston and skipper Darren Lockyer have been the driving force behind Queensland unparalleled run of four straight State of Origin series wins - a pillar of consistency against a helpless NSW outfit.
But against New Zealand in last week's Four Nations opener, the trio played like they had just met each other for the first time, the normally well-oiled Australian machine grinding to halt as a result.
"We had a lot of chances to get over the line but we were just pretty average with the footy," Smith said.
"The dynamics are different in this side to the Origin side and we play a different style of football than what we do with Queensland.
"There needs to be a little adjusting with us three in this team compared to what we do in Origin.
"It's almost like clockwork now with Queensland when we get into camp - we know the way we want to play whereas it's a bit different to the way Tim (Australian coach Tim Sheens) wants us to play.
"Obviously we didn't adjust to that well enough against New Zealand."
Lockyer could see the struggles, but felt helpless to do anything about it on the field.
He now hopes a week of training and some heart-to-hearts have helped rectify the problem ahead of Saturday's clash with England in Wigan.
"It was frustrating to be honest," Lockyer said.
"The communication just wasn't there.
"JT, me and Smithy sat down after the game and had a chat about it and basically simplified things a bit."
The Australians were given the day off on Thursday before moving camp to Wigan on Friday morning.
There they will have a training run at DW Stadium, with Sheens indicating he would meet with referee Steve Ganson to iron out a few concerns over interpretations ahead of Saturday's match.

I think Teflon has confused the playmakers.
 
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blackandwhite

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I found myself cheering for the opposition in both the games so far.....just so Sheens wouldn't win !


Gawd...what if that happens next year and I start wanting the opposition to win :cry:
 

Magpies Forever

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Sheens is doing OK as the ARL coach. With the talent on the books of the national team you wouldnt expect otherwise.
 

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I found myself cheering for the opposition in both the games so far.....just so Sheens wouldn't win !


Gawd...what if that happens next year and I start wanting the opposition to win :cry:
Who need enemies with suporters like you, lisen to yourself, you suck.
Before Sheens everybody use to hate the tigers and now everybody talks about them and how exiting is to watch them.
Get a life
 

blackandwhite

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Who need enemies with suporters like you, lisen to yourself, you suck.
Before Sheens everybody use to hate the tigers and now everybody talks about them and how exiting is to watch them.
Get a life


People hated the Tigers :shock: I have never heard anyone say they hated the tigers.

I am pretty sure they loved them in the 1969 Grand Final.

Legends Wayne Pearce and Paul Sironen and don't forget Kerry Hemsley.....who would hate those guys.

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]And our "Number One Fan", the great Laurie Nichols[/FONT]


Pretty sure if people don't support the tigers.. then the Tigers are most peoples second choice team.....that's my observation in the forty years I have followed them......and by the way...just in case you still don't get it.... it was a joke about supporting another team !
 

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THERE were "The Invincibles'' in 1982. "The Unbeatables'' in 1986. Now Kangaroos coach Tim Sheens has curiously labelled his victorious Four Nations side "The Implacables'' after their victory over England in the final at Elland Road.

After the Kangaroos trounced France 42-4 in Paris in their final pool match of the tournament, French national sporting bible L'Equipe headlined a story: "Toujours 'Aussies' implacables''.

Sheens googled the words and found the translation. "It's old French for die-hard, unyielding,'' the coach said. "It means that this is a strong group.

"I wouldn't have brought it up if we lost, of course. I said nothing until we won it. I think it's something this group can identify with.''

Kangaroos captain Darren Lockyer said: "Sheensy brought it up after the game, that the French were calling us that. When he told us about it, we were sort of looking at each other.



Despite the form of Golden Boot winner Greg Inglis on this tour, it would be a massive stretch - by the coach's own admission - to compare this Australian side to those of the 1980s, when the likes of Lewis, Meninga, Kenny and Sterling swept all before them.

Sheens wasn't entirely happy with the performance against England, and when lock Sam Burgess bustled over in the 50th minute to give his side a 16-14 lead, an upset was firmly on the horizon.

Yet they were unyielding and die-hard when it mattered. Down the stretch, with 20 minutes to go, the class of Lockyer and Thurston shone through.

In the aftermath of the win, though, several Australian players privately believed that Burgess was the best player on the field. This, despite fullback Billy Slater scoring three tries and freakishly setting up the decisive one for hooker Cameron Smith that broke England's heart.

Kangaroos backrower Nathan Hindmarsh said after the win against England earlier in the tournament that he wasn't overly impressed with Burgess, who takes up a four-year deal with South Sydney from next season.

But now? "He quickly showed me that, didn't he?'' said Hindmarsh, who says he has played his last representative match.

"I ran at him in the second last hit-up of the game, and he picked me up and drove me. It'll be interesting to see how he goes.

"I don't know if he's a prop. He seems to be more of a lock.

"He's got some skill and a bit of footwork. But he's a quality player and he'll be good for Souths.''

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...-hards-of-league/story-e6frexnr-1225798356422
it would be a massive stretch - by the coach's own admission - to compare this Australian side to those of the 1980s, when the likes of Lewis, Meninga, Kenny and Sterling swept all before them.

Yet he still persisted with a label in a similar vein...self indulgent sheensy at it again, leaving his ego on Kangaroo history.
 

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It was a throw away ffs. You were all hoping Australia would lose so you could death ride the bloke. He wins and you have a crack at his ego.

Honestly, I can sympathise with Prometheus after reading the endless one line jibes you lot take at Sheens. Is there anything that will make you stop? Please tell me and I'll do it, I will. We understand that you don't like Sheens. We understand that you hate him and have seen enough on TV to know he is a vile human being. However, he is our coach for the next year. Please, please reconcile with this and move on instead of regurgitating these weary and repetitive vituperations.
 

madunit

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It's a bit of a stretch giving this side a label on a par with the touring sides of 82 and 86.

Especially given those sides were world champions and won every match (16-18 odd games including tests against Great britain and France) in their respective tours.

This squad is a massive step down from those teams.

They won 4 games and Sheens is already toying with the prospect of giving them some fancy label.

France and Great britain were stronger opposition back in the 80's than they are today.

The 1980's Great Britain side would beat today's Aussie side, I have no doubt about that.
 

innsaneink

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Throw away...lmfao.

Sheens has read of it.

Hes then googled it.

Thought about it.

Then held onto it for more than a week, and specifically used it dependant on the result.....


Yeah....throwaway

...........The coach googled the word and found that it matched his squad; scribbling on the newspaper synonyms such as ''diehard, grim, iron, relentless, unyielding, rigid, stubborn and uncompromising''. ''When we were celebrating afterwards, I just said that's what we were called in France and I think that's the name we were going to adopt, and that'll be the name that sticks,'' Sheens said. ''I thought we needed some sort of identity as a squad.''
And so Sheens is hoping the 2009 squad, which defeated a gallant England 46-16 in the final, joins the famous 1982 squad, known as the Invincibles after going through 22 matches on tour undefeated, as well as the 1986 Unbeatables, in having a moniker forever linked to them.............
http://www.smh.com.au/news/lhqnews/...the-implacables/2009/11/16/1258219799868.html
 

TimmyB

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WHy did you bold the bit that he didn't even say? That's a bit silly really. Bold the bit he actually SAID and you'll get a better idea of it. I hardly think calling yourself the implacables (look it up) compares to the invincibles.

Even if he is being a bit of a dickhead, why do you have to constantly rush in here and point it out? Let it go ffs.
 

innsaneink

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Just pointing out that thats Sheens entire point, the mans ego know no bounds...even the journo gets it.
Why do you constantly rush in here defending him...let it go ffs
His time is up.
 

TimmyB

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I shouldn't have put that picture and I don't mean to have a go at you personally so apologies for that.

I actually agree that he's had his time. I just think there needs to be a little bit of balance here. Telling his team they are the implacables (like I said, not a compliment anywhere near the invincibles) is a pretty minor issue and of very little consequence. Sheens has many flaws, but why not stick to pointing out when he does something really terrible - like resigning Fitzhenry.

It's particularly jarring when the first post takes the piss out of him, he goes on to win the competition and he gets attacked for having an ego - without mention of the fact that he took the kangaroos to a pretty solid series win and has yet to be beaten as coach.
 
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