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Teflon at it again- the ego is incredible

Magpies Forever

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Secret plot to sack Benji Marshall

HE IS the player who can dismantle the Kangaroos. The kid who could sit the raging favourites squarely on their unbackable backsides - like he has before.
So it will shock you - not least if you're a Wests Tigers fan - to learn that some within Benji Marshall's club wanted to see the back of him this year.
When the off-contract Marshall was eyeing off lucrative rugby union deals in Japan and Europe, and he was struggling in the new gig as halfback, serious doubts were raised about whether he should be cut.
It is a revelation that comes from Tim Sheens. His coach in club land, but also the Kangaroos mentor who knows better than anyone the Kiwi captain must be shut down at Twickenham tomorrow night.
"I, more than anyone, have always had a heap of faith in the kid,'' Sheens says. "But there are elements in our club that wanted him gone. Because of a lack of value for what they saw and what they were paying him. Which is just ludicrous.
"He's more money to our club even when he wasn't playing. From the point of view of marketing and the number of kids that follow him, it's endless. He's changed our club completely.''
The coach and his prodigy square up against one another for the second time in their opening match of the Four Nations, but this time there's no playful trash talk, no tongue-in-cheek threats.
"That was a little bit of banter at the time - maybe I shouldn't have said anything,'' Marshall grins.
What's clear is that he's a reborn player since the Anzac Test in May, when the Kangaroos silenced the Kiwis.
From the outside looking in, it seemed Sheens' decision to move Marshall to halfback was the reason for the playmaker's sluggish start to the year.
On top of shoulder and knee injuries that had curtailed his influence in the previous two seasons, his erratic form added to the belief Marshall had burned brightly but faded as quickly as his mid-air sidestep.
Ask the player and coach, and they scoff at the notion. As they explain it, Marshall has been switching between first and second receiver all year. When Tim Moltzen came into the side as halfback and Marshall fitted snuggly into his No.6 jumper again, his job did not change.
To that end, Marshall's switch was nothing more than a media obsession.
In fact, when Sheens told Marshall before the round 10 match against South Sydney that he was moving him back to pivot, Marshall baulked.
"You don't have to do that,'' he told Sheens. "Don't let them get to you.''
As he recalls now: "I really didn't care if he did [moved him] or not. When he did, I think he was under the pump from a few people. I honestly don't think that my role changed at all.
"If you go through the tapes, I was doing the same organising, the same job. If anything, the pressure of not being the halfback was off.''
Sheens says: "I put six on his back again, but he has been playing exactly the same role.
"I don't care what anyone says, they don't know what they're talking about. He is playing the same.
"That was just a period of the season when he was trying too hard. We were losing a few games. I thought it would ease the pressure off our club.
"And it did - it got the media off our back.''
Whatever it was, it brought about a change in Marshall that turned around the Tigers' season. Indeed, towards the pointy end of the year, when the Tigers were gunning for the finals, he was certainly pulling out the same inexplicable plays that paved the way for the club's 2005 premiership.
It was never more evident than August, when that behind-the-back miracle flick pass against Parramatta put centre Blake Ayshford over and Tigers hooker Robbie Farah was standing dumbfounded in the middle of the Sydney Football Stadium.
"I said to him on the field, 'That is the greatest thing I have ever seen','' Farah recalls. "For him to even think about attempting it, I can't comprehend. But that's Benji.''
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/secret-plot-to-sack-benji-marshall/story-e6frexnr-1225790156814

My comments:

First- Old news. Yes, there were people quite rightly questioning Benji’s re-signing at the time – he had had a horrendous injury run and the question had to be asked was he worth it? Also the protracted media circus around his decision and options WERE NOT doing WT any favours.

Second- Teflon now continues the old news and makes into new news exposing ‘elements in our club’ versus his incredible vision, faith and expertise and his own followers.

Third- no reflection or even acceptance that the change worked and was the reason behind WT change of fortune in the later half of the 2009 season. Its all the media's fault................

Forth- the ego is incredible in this bloke. I have a horrible feeling he is going to tear the club apart in 2010 before he goes of his own volition at end of season / is punted at end of season / is extended.
 

b.bear

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so our horrible start to the year was all in our imagination and a "media beatup" , and nothing to do with chopping and changing the team every week plus Benji playing out of position ......what an ego
 

Magpies Forever

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The News Ltd reporter has beaten it up to a degree but Sheens should be disciplined by the WT board if this causes an eruption.

In talking up Benji's magnificence and his own incredible judgement he has caused old news to be new news and exposed so called 'elements in the club' that question his never to be questioned judgement. The same as WT fans who dont think he is doing a good job or call into question his team selections and player placements are relegated to 'so called WT fans'- he is doing the same to the WT board and management in the lead up to the vital 2010 season.

All I can say is, if you let him get away with this Humhpreys you had better watch out- Sheens already has 1 management scalp in his belt.
 
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BuffaloRules

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Maybe Sheens will now come clean about all the wrong recruitment decisions he has made over the years.... signing all those duds and the good ones he has let go....
 

Magpies Forever

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Maybe Sheens will now come clean about all the wrong recruitment decisions he has made over the years.... signing all those duds and the good ones he has let go....

Oh look!!!!!!!!!!! Pigs are flying......... I wouldnt hold my breath. The master coach never makes mistakes, never admits errors and is never, ever wrong.
 

851

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Maybe Sheens will now come clean about all the wrong recruitment decisions he has made over the years.... signing all those duds and the good ones he has let go....
He is feeling the heat,he is trying to deflect blame and at the same time enhance is own position.
Hope he can feel Folksey's breath on the back of his neck,look out Tim he is waiting for you to stuff up,and on form that won't be long.
 

Vic Mackey

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in 07/08 and the start of 09 benji was a passenger. i wouldnt have been angry at the club if they did let him go (on the condition that they had of replaced him with a PROVEN first grade half).

his second half of the season was probably the best we've ever seen him play, including 2005. this happened to coincide with him moving back to 6 and a GENUINE half partnering him, giving the defence someone else to think about.

this article is sheens all over, the bloke is a complete and utter arrogant arsehole. when things are going well he basks in the glory, when things are down its always outside circumstances that are the problem.
 

N.C.

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Yeah, no mention of moving Morris out of the halves at the same time. Apparently it's all about Benji and the number on his back...
 

N.C.

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PS - Apparently my comments have been published. C'mon, time to get stuck in!

"What this article neglects to mention is that Marshall's move from 7 back to 6 might not have been much of a change, but the moves from 6 to 14 for Morris, and 1 to 7 for Moltzen, were huge. These are the reason the Tigers almost turned their season around. And the only reason it happened was that Morris signed with the Sharks - any "so-called fan" knows that. Boo, Sheens, Boo..."
 

N.C.

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Sheens on KPI's - "What is this - a business or a football team?"

Sheens on sacking Benji - "He's more money to our club even when he wasn't playing"...

Yeah Tim, sometimes I like it both ways as well...
 

innsaneink

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Its the final days at NQ all over again.
Ive chatted to many Cowboys fans since the GF, about the GF and about Sheens, this is sounding very familiar again.
 

Drzoidberg

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Sheens is using the media to upset benji before a big game, only problem is how it is gonna be when Benji gets back to the tigers after finding out from his club coach this "revelation" before a test match against his club coach.

Dumb work Sheens good way to create a rift
 

N.C.

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Here we go then:

Marshall reveals Tigers get-out clause

By Steve Jancetic AAP Sat, 24 Oct 2009 12:41:24

Benji Marshall has hit out at factions which tried to drive him out of Wests Tigers and revealed he has a secret get-out clause in his contract allowing him to quit the NRL club should coach Tim Sheens be removed.
Speaking on the eve of leading New Zealand into their opening Four Nations clash with Australia in London, Marshall said he was bitterly disappointed to learn there were some sections of the Tigers hierarchy questioning his value to the club.
One of those questioning Marshall's productivity was definitely not Sheens, the man Marshall claims has had the biggest influence on his career.
So strong is the bond between player and coach that Marshall had a clause inserted in his contract which allows him to leave should Sheens no longer be the coach at the club.
"He's my No.1 supporter, he always has been," Marshall said of the man who will be doing his best to stop the Kiwi superstar in his role as Australian coach at the Four Nations.
"I've got the utmost respect for him.
"I've even got a clause in my contract that says if he's not the coach at the Tigers that I don't have to be there.
"That's just the respect that I have for Tim.
"The main reason I signed with the club was that I felt I owed the club for the games that I've missed for them - the players in the team I thought I owed and for Tim as well.
"I could easily have left but I stayed for those reasons."
Which is why Sheens' revelation this week that there were elements in the club that wanted Marshall gone hurt so much.
Marshall earlier this year turned down massive offers to switch codes and play rugby union in Japan or Europe to stay loyal to the Tigers, re-signing with the club through to the end of 2011.
He has vowed to throw egg in their face of those doubting his value to the Tigers, those doubts surfacing as a result of the 24-year-old's injury troubles in recent seasons and his struggles following a move to halfback earlier this year.
But as Sheens is quick to point out, Marshall missed only one game in 2009, and his brilliant form over the back half of the season when restored to the No.6 jumper fell just short of lifting the Tigers into the finals.
Asked if he knew there had been rumblings from some quarters for him to be let go, Marshall said: "I didn't. I was pretty disappointed when I got told that this morning - I only found out from my manager.
"I'm not going to make any rash comments or make any knee-jerk reactions until I speak to Tim about it, but at the end of the day I put everything aside to re-sign with the club and gave my loyalty back to the club because of what they've done for me.
"To hear some of that stuff after I've re-signed, I would have liked to have known that before I re-signed.
"I can't do anything about it now. I'm happy with the season I had at the club and the coach was happy with my season and that's all that matters.
"They can say what they like but the next couple of years I think are going to be some of my best so they might want to change some of their opinions over the next couple of years."

http://www.nrl.com/newsviews/latest...ll-reveals-tigers-get-out-clause/default.aspx
 

Magpies Forever

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Well Benji- how about repaying the the faith the club NOTE- THE CLUB, showed in retaining you when injured- not just Sheens, THE CLUB. Put your thinking cap on lad, it would not be unreasonable for some in the club to ponder whether to re-sign you or not considering your injury run up to the end of your previous contract? It is a professional sport, not a benevolent society for the private whims of Sheens and yourself. It is only this year 2009 you have been injury free- be thankful we did re-sign you. If you wanted to go elsewhere and chase the big bucks- you had your opportunity. This news apart from being old news, should not shock you.

Teflon- good one- sounds like you have really set the cat amongst the pidgeons at WT with this. I hope they really bore it up your ego ridden a*** when you get back. What the hell was the point of bringing this old chestnut out???? Humphreys & WT board - do something.
 
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Good one Sheens! Usually you wait for the season to begin before trying to sabotage it. While you're at it why not give us your annual excuses now for missing the eight in 2010. You can start your list with "I am a f**kwit".
 
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