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That Patrick Smith bloke is a bit of a twat

brendo

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when this guy said that mums wont let little johnny play league has he seen a u/6-9 game of league its hardly ufc type stuff
 

LazyDreamer

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I'm just racking my brain (no tall order, mind) trying to think of the last time an NRL player stood there & blatantly kneed his opponent in the Jatz crackers?
 

Brutus

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Picking up schoolgirls at footy clinics then impregnating them later on.

Nice work unknown St Kilda players. Imagine if this was the NRL. The names of the players would be all over the media by now.

Do we know if they had a gang bang yet?
 

bobmar28

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The guys an idiot. look at the rise and rise of MMA and see sports fans have no issues with voluntary violence between two consenting adults.

Comparing it to the whipping of a horse is f**king geniused. I don't know how animal cruelty can be compared to violence between consulting adults. I'm a vegetarian too, so it's not like im big on hitting race horses with sticks

The reality is, and this is a f**king reality, the casual sports fan would rather tune into NRL than the AFL. Everyone i know who watches AFL are australians. I've yet to meet a single person online or offline who likes AFL and isn't from Victoria or Perth.

The AFL is the biggest joke sport in the world. I can't believe how these guys yap on like they're some sort of sporting force. I might go out tomorrow with a video camera and ask 1000 people if they like the AFL, 999 people will have no idea what it is. 1 person will think i'm talking about the arena football league in America.

Who hires these f**king journo-merkins anyway? Was writing better articles for my Primary school paper!

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=rugby+league&aq=f

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=rugby&aq=f

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=nfl&aq=f

It's odd that this merkin thinks violence hinders the games popularity, you only have to look at videos of league, union and the nfl online to see the violent stuff is far and beyond the most in demand.

AFL is a sport for middle-class, vest-wearing, pseudo-intellectual-metrosexuals.

Aussie rules will never reach beyond Australia, ever. It's a pipe dream. On the flipside League is growing fast internationally, and while still in its infancy, will surely continue to exist as a professional sport on the international stage, most probably growing much bigger.

What the AFL softies fail to understand is that the world already has soccer. We've got one boring 'skillfull' sport filled with lady-boys. There is no room for another. AFL will never find a market outside of Australia while soccer exists. Sports like League offer a great alternative for those of us who aren't metrosexuals, and thus will remain a presence in various countries.

:lol: I couldn't have said it better.
 

bobmar28

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Apparently the afl played their biggest game of the regular season last week when premiers Geelong played the world famous Collingwood.

Did anyone in NSW and QLD care?

No

Did anyone in NSW and QLD watch?

Maybe 50 000


Did any journos in NSW and QLD write articles about it?

You must be joking!

Although they had a good result, over 1 million (633,000 in Victoriania), only 9,000 Sydney viewers tuned in. Bring on GWS, the sooner they go broke the better.
 

Brutus

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I notice the Telegraph ran a story highlighting the AFL's off-field incidents this year.

They seem to have taken it off the webpage.
 

Flapper

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I notice the Telegraph ran a story highlighting the AFL's off-field incidents this year.

They seem to have taken it off the webpage.

I loked for it this morning, it seems they never even put it up on the webpage. Shame too, Lip Balym actually did a halfway decent effort, for an AFL journo.
 

El Diablo

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I loked for it this morning, it seems they never even put it up on the webpage. Shame too, Lip Balym actually did a halfway decent effort, for an AFL journo.

from page 81 of the DT

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El Diablo

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he's done a follow up http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...akes-the-bullets/story-e6frg7mf-1225872751572

NRL aims straight as AFL takes the bullets

* Patrick Smith
* From: The Australian
* May 29, 2010 12:00AM

NO biffo. Not a sniff of it. Bad for the AFL, good for the NRL. Worse, though, for the AFL was the standard of the State of Origin opener. Slushy field, constant rain and fierce opposition could not blunt the intuitive skills of the Queensland side. There was some fumbled ball but that there was so little of it meant masters were at work.

How NSW can reverse the trend of the past four years is impossible to identify. Sound coaching, grim looks and passion is not enough against a combination that sees that and raises you audacious skill and vision. Craig Bellamy will address his side's weaknesses, sew and patch them up, but he has no needle and thread for the Maroons' mastery of everything elite.

The match was symbolic of the challenge the AFL faces in trying to dilute the hold of rugby league. If you grew up with rugby league or even if you know it only as it surrounds you, the sporting heartbeat of Sydney and the Gold Coast, then any alternative code will appear tame.

Such was the build-up after last year's third State of Origin late-match riot there was every chance Wednesday's match could have deteriorated into a bar-room brawl. While some of the players could not quite hold their tongue before the match, everybody held their nerve on the field.

So a bullet for the NRL was dodged. Just what will happen in Brisbane cannot be predicted, but no one wins if the Blues go down fighting.

The opener at ANZ Stadium was an example of a change in the way our football codes are now judged. It is not about kicking goals but dodging those well-aimed bullets.

The AFL got to last night's match between Essendon and the Bulldogs ducking and weaving, not always successfully. There had been a blunderbuss aimed squarely at its heart when a complaint to the state government set off an investigation on Wednesday.

A high school principal reported that a student was pregnant after St Kilda players visited the school earlier in the year. The inference was that contact had been made between the players and the student during the clinic and that she became pregnant at a series of rendezvous later on.

If initial contact was made at the clinic then the breach of trust was indefensible and the AFL deeply wounded. There is no more irksome image than footballers, brought to the school as role models, using their position to procure teenagers for sex.

An investigation that ran all day and which involved police found that the players had not made contact with the girl at the school. They offered their phone records for inspection and they proved that there had been no interaction until much later after St Kilda played the Swans in Sydney in the opening round. Swift but thorough, the investigation saw the bullet fly aimlessly by, though everyone involved was aware that two lives had forever changed course in a sigh.

Unfortunately for the AFL this was ambush week. Having previously escaped with just a flesh wound after Docker Michael Johnson was found by police in possession of cocaine, it was then discovered Johnson had a Derringer in his football sock.

Initially the AFL made sure the Dockers punished Johnson with some venom, banned for five matches, and tried to settle the matter with officials stunned that it could happen to such a decent man. For his part Johnson said he would learn from the experience and return a better person, father, teammate, footballer, dog owner and gardener.

On the ever-sensitive issue of its three-strikes illicit drug policy that ensures players who breach the policy remain anonymous seemingly no matter how many times they strike out, the league was wounded. Johnson out for five games, players on two strikes hidden away by the AFL policy. Incongruous at best, a cover-up at worst. Within days it got murkier still. It was discovered Johnson had been caught by police in possession of ecstasy in 2005, his first year with the club. For the AFL 2005 was a critical year because that's when its three-strikes policy was introduced. It didn't pick up Ben Cousins at West Coast and it did not find out Johnson at the Dockers.

That prompted renewed scrutiny of the policy and that did not help the AFL either. Football manager Adrian Anderson said that when a player tested positive twice he could be placed under medical treatment. And no matter how many times he tested positive under treatment none would be considered a third strike. And then he added while they were under treatment they could not be selected for their side.

The policy was tripping out. If the player could not play for his side how could his identity not be known. Supporters tend to fuss when their centre half-forward suddenly is unavailable for weeks without explanation. Not to mention the coach, the football department and match committee who are told that they cannot select the player in question. But not told why. Fancy the committee would want to know as well. The media would be salivating. This made no sense; the three-strikes policy never has.

The gun was loaded again when Barry Hall, the Bulldog with attitude and form, put his opponent Scott Thompson in a head lock. The hold was fierce and prolonged and he was reported for rough conduct. It would not have come to this had the umpires been more vigilant early in the game when Thompson was physically provoking Hall and had an umpire been looking when Thompson knocked over Hall as he crouched to tend his bootlaces.

The system had let Hall down, he was provoked and taunted, picked on and surrounded. Nonetheless he should not have reacted in the fierce manner that he did. With his record Hall should have been suspended but he wasn't. Merely fined. The official release said: "The match review panel took into account the medical report on player Thompson and the relevant footage in determining a charge of rough conduct was not appropriate in the circumstances of this case."

Mmmmm. On Wednesday Thompson told the media this: "I thought I was all right, but it soon became a pretty tight grip and I got a little scared, but he knew to let go. He had me across the neck and I was struggling to breathe, but I think Barry felt that as well and that's why he let go."

Surely this is at odds with the medical report offered by North Melbourne. Thompson describes something that can only be deemed rough conduct. Sadly, the AFL match review panel was informed more fully after it made its decision than before it. Simply an unacceptable situation.

Like the week before when the match review panel cleared Hawthorn's Campbell Brown of high contact, the true situation was revealed the day after the panel deliberated. Brown had bumped Jackson but Richmond, not wanting to be deemed dobbers, naively denied contact had been high when contacted by the panel.

However, the next day as Jackson sought to clear himself of a charge of head-butting Brown, the club doctor not spoken to before the Jackson hearing said the Richmond player was fuzzy after being struck in the head. Jackson lost his case. How inept. Saving an opponent, Brown, cost them Jackson, their own player.

One week, one bullet dodged, two bullets found their mark. The illicit drugs policy and the tribunal system are bleeding to death. Slowly but inexorably.
 

Lambretta

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[quote RL1908] While rugby league may sometimes give the appearance of being a caged gorilla, there’s little doubt that AFL is hurriedly turning itself into a pet poodle, so determined are they to ensure their code can be patted in complete safety by young kiddies as their fearful mothers watch on. [/quote]

I came to Oz 15 years ago (from a football watching background) and when I first came here I loved AFL. I went to lots of games and watched loads on TV.

Over time I started watching more and more league and less and less AFL, although I still watch the odd game on a Saturday arvo when there's no league on.

Over the years AFL has become more and more sanitised with far more silly penalties given for innocuous things and I lost interest. When played well, with accurate kicking and strong marking contests, it's actually watchable, but more often than not the ball goes to ground as players "search" for a free kick because someone might touch their back or shoulder. Today it's virtually non contact, where in times gone by the contact used to be ferocious.

Hip and shoulder charges within 5 metres of the ball on any player you like used to be highlight, but they've been outlawed as people are too concerned for the safety of players.

It's slowly become like the Worlds most boring sport, Rugby Union, where penalties are awarded at the discretion of the ref for the most minor of infringements when it looks like both sides are probably either infringing at the same time or not at all.

Any sport that has such abstract penalties loses me.

As someone said to me recently, any sport where you score for missing, have penalties awarded for no apparent reason and has no offside rule isnt really a sport. It's merely a pastime.

However, many, many people enjoy watching it and fair play to them. I will still attend the odd game if I'm down in Melbourne as I did last year. I just wished they were comfortable in themselves to not attack Rugby League all the time. It doesnt help justify their sport. It just highlights why they're scared of ours. Physical contact is something we, and many Melbournians love. They've wiped it from their sport, I get the feeling alot of people down that way are yearning for sport where full contact is allowed. Come over people of Melbourne. You're more than welcome in the world of Rugby League as far as I'm concerned.
 

RL1908

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Interesting Lambretta. I wouldn't entirely absolve RL of treading the same path - some of the penalties given against tacklers for coming into innocuous contact with a ball-carrier's head are embarrassing to say the least.
 

Lambretta

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Interesting Lambretta. I wouldn't entirely absolve RL of treading the same path - some of the penalties given against tacklers for coming into innocuous contact with a ball-carrier's head are embarrassing to say the least.

True, but the game is only trying to enforce a ruling that was already there. There's never been a time where hitting the head was legal.

I'm not saying the league doesnt get calls wrong, but with AFL I have been put off the sport by the total sanitising of it and introduction of rules not allowing any contact of the shoulder or back. Some of the 50 metre penalties, such as a player walking across a line a player will run to if he is going to kick the ball are plain silly.

50 metre penalties are critical in that sport and sometimes they're awarded for almost no reason.

Plus in AFL there are penalties given for nothing brushes about twenty times a game, not once or twice per weekend.

I love the physical aspect of sport. I love seeing people doing things that I cannot whilst put under pressure that would give mere mortals nightmares. I get the impression that in trying to get away from scaring people with the ugly physicality of contact AFL has detracted from their code. Personally I feel the same with football. I grew up in an era where hard men were worshipped in England, yet todays footballers have never known physical contact (in spite of their acting to the contrary).

Football is now about cheating your way to victory than fighting your way there. I appreciate the technical ability of the modern player and I applaud his talents. But I just get bored to sh*t with people not getting stuck in and having a red hot go.

League has never shied away from that - in spite of marginal decisions made by referees (who have a hard job I admit).
 

RL1908

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No argument Lambretta. The scale of these trends/instances in NRL/Origin (and RU too) is nothing like in AFL. Aust rules is bordering on becoming soccer with some handling exceptions.
 

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