That'll teach you Ricky

[gregstar]

Now please shut the f**k up.

bwaaaah! ahahahahahahahaah!

now tell us about the second half.

 

[CharlieF]

bwaaaah! ahahahahahahahaah!

now tell us about the second half.

No more than 5 touches in the second half. He did make 20 tackles though. Pretty high for a centre.

Just as a comparison, Gasnier made no tackles, Tate made 2, Ingliss made 1 and Hunt made an amazing 6. I guess we can see who was doing all the defensive work in the backs as all his tackles alone is more than double all the rest of the Aussie centres and wingers managed together. Australia was beaten because they were outmuscled in the forwards. The Kiwis did the same thing, but Australia jagged a very lucky late win.

There is no need to single out particular players. It is obvious from the last 4-5 years that the level of competetion from NZ and GB has improved considerably. I think that in about 5-10 year we will have a pretty even international competetion.

 

[Micistm]

Aussie's in the final...but I wouldn't be selecting Mason just yet...he may be on 'holiday'...Oh, what am I saying?! He plays for Australia!! Of course the judiciary will do the 'right' thing and let him play

 

[Twizzle]

No more than 5 touches in the second half. He did make 20 tackles though. Pretty high for a centre.

Just as a comparison, Gasnier made no tackles, Tate made 2, Ingliss made 1 and Hunt made an amazing 6. I guess we can see who was doing all the defensive work in the backs as all his tackles alone is more than double all the rest of the Aussie centres and wingers managed together. Australia was beaten because they were outmuscled in the forwards. The Kiwis did the same thing, but Australia jagged a very lucky late win.

There is no need to single out particular players. It is obvious from the last 4-5 years that the level of competetion from NZ and GB has improved considerably. I think that in about 5-10 year we will have a pretty even international competetion.

pretty hard for Gaz to make tackles while he's in the sheds

 

[kia ora storm]

Ricky stuffed up...Lyon was average and playing Cam Smith off the bench makes no sense.

Hodges should be playing as should King.

 

[CharlieF]

pretty hard for Gaz to make tackles while he's in the sheds

OK take Gaz out of it then. BTW, why is he always in the sheds??? He seems to be there more often than not.

I was actually trying to point out that Lyon actually did more work than most of the other centres/wingers. I was also trying to point out that most of their tries were scored because of very weak defence in the middle. In fact, most were scored from 30 metres out, whilst all Australias tries were long range attempts. The forwards were the ones that went missing in action, but maybe it might just be that the Pommie forwards are good enough to match the Aussies. This game proved they are. Will have to wait and see for the next game to see if it was a fluke.

 

[CharlieF]

Ricky stuffed up...Lyon was average and playing Cam Smith off the bench makes no sense.

Hodges should be playing as should King.

I think we can now put to rest the theory about the Aussies being able to field 2, maybe 3 RL Test teams capable of beating GB or NZ.

 

[Twizzle]

I think we can now put to rest the theory about the Aussies being able to field 2, maybe 3 RL Test teams capable of beating GB or NZ.

I think we have a destinct lack of depth in the halves, which was exposed last night, so I'd agree with you on that

 

[CharlieF]

I think we have a destinct lack of depth in the halves, which was exposed last night, so I'd agree with you on that

I think there are enough halves around. Hornby is a fullback, Cam smith is a hooker. At home watching from the TV there is:

Kimmorley
Orford
Gower
Prince
There is also Thurston.

The forwards didn't complete the job. Not sure if they were put off by the fighting at the beginning, but they clearly did not dominate.

 

[colonel_123]

No more than 5 touches in the second half. He did make 20 tackles though. Pretty high for a centre.

Just as a comparison, Gasnier made no tackles, Tate made 2, Ingliss made 1 and Hunt made an amazing 6. I guess we can see who was doing all the defensive work in the backs as all his tackles alone is more than double all the rest of the Aussie centres and wingers managed together. Australia was beaten because they were outmuscled in the forwards. The Kiwis did the same thing, but Australia jagged a very lucky late win.

There is no need to single out particular players. It is obvious from the last 4-5 years that the level of competetion from NZ and GB has improved considerably. I think that in about 5-10 year we will have a pretty even international competetion.

It seems to me Australia is a Darren Lockyer away from coming back to the pack.

No Johns, no Fittler, no Webcke and alot resting on the shoulders of Darren Lockyer. Take him out and what are you left with?

6. Barrett
7. Gower

NZ 24 - Aus 0

 

[Front-Rower]

Mini was gone most of the year and Anasta was injured most of the year as well. The Roosters had one of the worst packs in the comp and it showed.



Touche Saab :lol:

I mean trying some different. Instead of being stuck with the same halves for the last 10 weeks.

Have to disagree on Covell though. He was easily the pick of our back 3 this year. That doesn't say much about the other 2 though.

You obviously have mis-read what I have said. Mini was injured this year but in 2005 he wasn't. Nor was over half the team that got the roosters to the 2002-2004 Grand Finals.

But thats history now.

 

[kia ora storm]

I think we can now put to rest the theory about the Aussies being able to field 2, maybe 3 RL Test teams capable of beating GB or NZ.

True...if the Kiwis got their rabble together then they could have won this comp easy..;-)

 

[Newcastlerabbit]

Ricky Stuart----------------Dead man walking.

 

[Holla if ya hear me]

Tupou should NEVER ever be allowed near an australian jumper AT ALL...crap for the roosters for most of the year..

 

[Mr Saab]

It seems to me Australia is a Darren Lockyer away from coming back to the pack.

No Johns, no Fittler, no Webcke and alot resting on the shoulders of Darren Lockyer. Take him out and what are you left with?

6. Barrett
7. Gower

NZ 24 - Aus 0

Tis is true.
Then the fun will begin when Benji and Sonny Bill tear australia a new one

 

[colonel_123]

Tis is true.
Then the fun will begin when Benji and Sonny Bill tear australia a new one

I got to thinking about this with all the references to the 2002 mid season test.

Look at that side in 2002 you had Webcke, Buderus, Johns, Lockyer plus was Fittler in the side as well?

The current team doesn't hold a candle to that sort of side and its evident just how much they rely on the brilliance of Lockyer.

While Australia is producing some brilliant outside backs in Inglis, Gasnier, Hodges, etc, some of whom may go on to become greats of the game I don't see another Johns, Fittler or Lockyer amongst the likes of Prince, Thurston, Cronk, and Hornby...

 

[Mr Saab]

Fittler retired from rep football in 2001 (came back to play origin 2004)
so he was not in that team.
That 2002 team was something else though...i have that game on tape when they smashed the poms.
You are right, we have alot of backs but sweet F all halves that can come close to some of the recent past.
Perhaps Inglis can cover 5/8 in coming yrs?

 

[Cockadoodledoo]

Tupou should NEVER ever be allowed near an australian jumper AT ALL...crap for the roosters for most of the year..

Probably our second best player this year and actually looked dangerous with the ball last night, busting the line late in the First half once they decided to give him the ball.. There were much worse forwards than him last night..

 

[The Clan]

I know NZ have a number of players missing and the inclusion of Marshal, Williams Utai, Vainikolo would make a difference to them. However Great Britain have a number of players missing too.
Paul Sculthorpe Cunningham, and Lynch would all have made the 17 but James Graham would have made a huge impact on this series and will be around for the next 10 years.