The 2019 USARL Season has Kicked Off (Believe it or Not)

[deluded pom?]

Nobody is comparing pro leagues to amateur leagues though. The NCL is an amateur organisation. All the clubs are, on the whole, run by volunteers and play a far longer season than they play in the USARL. There just doesn’t seem to be any progress and it’s very frustrating for people who want to see a sustainable league in the States.

 

[Deeecoreturns]

Nobody is comparing pro leagues to amateur leagues though. The NCL is an amateur organisation. All the clubs are, on the whole, run by volunteers and play a far longer season than they play in the USARL. There just doesn’t seem to be any progress and it’s very frustrating for people who want to see a sustainable league in the States.

Deluded, if you reread his post he literally uses the nrl /sl as a benchmark. You're right regarding the ncl though however even as amateurs which they're not, I know for an absolute fact that players are paid contacts at that level off the record, their funding and support base far outweighs anything they have in the states. Their turnovers and assets far outweigh ours with MUCH smaller overheads. I've lost players for the mayhem because they were offered increased deals at their ncl clubs that they couldn't turn down. They also use a full time type system which possibly the usarl needs to adopt where its done via a system, the club owner has to update the website etc no one actually phones results in anymore, that finished the best part of a decade ago, it's all done electronically. There's no reason the usarl couldn't do something like this but they're just plain incompetent and tbh we've largely given up with them, just get on with our own jobs

 

[deluded pom?]

Deluded, if you reread his post he literally uses the nrl /sl as a benchmark. You're right regarding the ncl though however even as amateurs which they're not, I know for an absolute fact that players are paid contacts at that level off the record, their funding and support base far outweighs anything they have in the states. Their turnovers and assets far outweigh ours with MUCH smaller overheads. I've lost players for the mayhem because they were offered increased deals at their ncl clubs that they couldn't turn down. They also use a full time type system which possibly the usarl needs to adopt where its done via a system, the club owner has to update the website etc no one actually phones results in anymore, that finished the best part of a decade ago, it's all done electronically. There's no reason the usarl couldn't do something like this but they're just plain incompetent and tbh we've largely given up with them, just get on with our own jobs

I must inform my cousin who is the chairman of a NCL club. They, and I doubt any club below Premier League level, don’t pay a penny. Communication is getting easier by the day, not more difficult.

 

[Deeecoreturns]

I must inform my cousin who is the chairman of a NCL club. They, and I doubt any club below Premier League level, don’t pay a penny. Communication is getting easier by the day, not more difficult.

I don't know which division they're in but I know of at least two that are. I've lost Import players the last three seasons from ncl clubs paying the players. A few lads locally I know as well said as much, players migrate round their respective local sides based on who was giving the better brown paper envelopes. Ultimately though, it makes little difference, the usarl are failing the blokes on the ground but there isn't a huge deal we can do about it. No money, no support, just the work of local volunteers doing what they can. The officiating in the usarl is abhorrent at the moment and they can't even be bothered putting officials coaching courses on, we've got something like 7 guys who wouldn't mind qualifying as an official.. Is there an avenue to do so.. Is there heck

 

[isavedtheday]

As far as your comparison you can't compare pro leagues to amateurs. Yes the usarl do jack shit but our clubs are all volunteer organisations ultimately. If I wasn't sat at home in my living room in England the mayhem page wouldn't have been updated in truth. The guys on the ground have enough to do

Apologies with the comparison. I didn't mean to compare the pro's to amateurs. I'm only really getting into the USARL this year, mainly off the back of Nate, so I don't know the history of the competition and teams just yet. I also have no idea what goes into running a club because I'm just a fan so I didn't mean to belittle anyone and their efforts.

It is good to see all of the games so far are up on youtube to watch so people can at least watch the games. I've been impressed with what i've seen so far.

Three close games this weekend with not much in them. That's a good sign for the competition.

 

[Deeecoreturns]

Apologies with the comparison. I didn't mean to compare the pro's to amateurs. I'm only really getting into the USARL this year, mainly off the back of Nate, so I don't know the history of the competition and teams just yet. I also have no idea what goes into running a club because I'm just a fan so I didn't mean to belittle anyone and their efforts.

It is good to see all of the games so far are up on youtube to watch so people can at least watch the games. I've been impressed with what i've seen so far.

Three close games this weekend with not much in them. That's a good sign for the competition.

It's difficult because I know how hard the people on the ground work but the league is letting us down. I didn't mean to come across as snappy but sometimes it's difficult to explain to people just how tough a gig it is. We're £24,000 out of pocket at the moment in under four years and we had 12 people on Saturday volunteering on everything from gate receipts to video production to commentary to ensuring the doctors have everything they need to field marking and supplies to raffle people to the guys selling drinks and hot dogs and just guys running between various parties. Every club is like this and so it irks me at times when people criticise because the scores aren't up online. After the game I think the guys just want to enjoy a beer but the last thing on a lot of people's minds is whether the online media is up to date. It's honestly like a second job running a usarl club and there's three of us doing the bulk of the work, most clubs only have one or possibly two people.

The league should be doing more to support us but they aren't and there's not a lot we can do about it other than to keep plodding on and doing what we can. I've almost reached the end of my tether with it all in truth but.. On we go

 

[deluded pom?]

It’s not just a whinge about no scores on the internet though. That’s just the thin end of the wedge. The profile of the sport to an outsider has never been lower IMO. Even the AMNRL weren’t this bad. If it wasn’t for their appearances at the WC nobody outside of the teams would have any idea what is happening over there. The game over there has gone from the frying pan to the fire.

 

[Shark62]

It's difficult because I know how hard the people on the ground work but the league is letting us down. I didn't mean to come across as snappy but sometimes it's difficult to explain to people just how tough a gig it is. We're £24,000 out of pocket at the moment in under four years and we had 12 people on Saturday volunteering on everything from gate receipts to video production to commentary to ensuring the doctors have everything they need to field marking and supplies to raffle people to the guys selling drinks and hot dogs and just guys running between various parties. Every club is like this and so it irks me at times when people criticise because the scores aren't up online. After the game I think the guys just want to enjoy a beer but the last thing on a lot of people's minds is whether the online media is up to date. It's honestly like a second job running a usarl club and there's three of us doing the bulk of the work, most clubs only have one or possibly two people.

The league should be doing more to support us but they aren't and there's not a lot we can do about it other than to keep plodding on and doing what we can. I've almost reached the end of my tether with it all in truth but.. On we go

I ran a minor competition years ago here in Australia. About ten of us held it together. It was amazing and disheartening at the same time.
In the end we gave up out of exhaustion.
You have my respect, sympathy and prayers all rolled into one.

 

[Deeecoreturns]

It’s not just a whinge about no scores on the internet though. That’s just the thin end of the wedge. The profile of the sport to an outsider has never been lower IMO. Even the AMNRL weren’t this bad. If it wasn’t for their appearances at the WC nobody outside of the teams would have any idea what is happening over there. The game over there has gone from the frying pan to the fire.

Fair comment and I can't see it ever improving either. Well, I do think it's better on the ground at grass roots, more people turning up for games, more players locally, more sponsor dollars coming in but overall it's small fry. In its current guise you will never see professionalism in the US. The only way it can ever work is through the model seen by Toronto etc and whether that's sustainable who knows. In my honest opinion you'll never see a pro us league or much more than what you have now. We can't get into schools and probably never will is the biggest issue

 

[Stallion]

Fair comment and I can't see it ever improving either. Well, I do think it's better on the ground at grass roots, more people turning up for games, more players locally, more sponsor dollars coming in but overall it's small fry. In its current guise you will never see professionalism in the US. The only way it can ever work is through the model seen by Toronto etc and whether that's sustainable who knows. In my honest opinion you'll never see a pro us league or much more than what you have now. We can't get into schools and probably never will is the biggest issue

An extremely telltale fact that is not appreciated by some on this site. The access for rugby-league to schooling is crucial !

 

[deluded pom?]

An extremely telltale fact that you should not appreciated by some on this site. The access for rugby-league to schooling is crucial !

But as Deeco has said nigh on impossible.

 

[Stallion]

But as Deeco has said nigh on impossible.

Another example of rugby league not having "friends or influence in high places" . It's widespread. Their's also poor backing from rugby-league itself which compounds the lack of growth. Really sad and dissappointing . This sport is not getting a fair go! Deserves much more presence and solid backing. Oh well!

 

[Deeecoreturns]

I'm really hoping that Ulch at Lakeland can be the first. He's quite high up in the local school and when he needed time off during term time for the RL world cup the school basically packed his bags for him no questions asked. Maybe, and it's a huge maybe, he could be the first to make inroads. For the rest of us it's pretty much impossible.

Honestly the best we can hope for, as a league is just growth on the ground. Growth of our businesses, our sponsorship partners (we've got Dex imaging on board this year who are the biggest supplier of copiers and servicing in the entire USA, Bellhops who are a national brand amongst others) and growth of numbers playing the game. They're mostly beginners in truth but despite most of our 'peak' team of 2017 calling it a day and Lakeland taking a third of our matchday team we've still got 28 signed on this season (and more practicing with us). It is growing honestly but to bring it full circle, those higher up are letting us down badly

 

[deluded pom?]

I'm really hoping that Ulch at Lakeland can be the first. He's quite high up in the local school and when he needed time off during term time for the RL world cup the school basically packed his bags for him no questions asked. Maybe, and it's a huge maybe, he could be the first to make inroads. For the rest of us it's pretty much impossible.

Honestly the best we can hope for, as a league is just growth on the ground. Growth of our businesses, our sponsorship partners (we've got Dex imaging on board this year who are the biggest supplier of copiers and servicing in the entire USA, Bellhops who are a national brand amongst others) and growth of numbers playing the game. They're mostly beginners in truth but despite most of our 'peak' team of 2017 calling it a day and Lakeland taking a third of our matchday team we've still got 28 signed on this season (and more practicing with us). It is growing honestly but to bring it full circle, those higher up are letting us down badly

Time for yet another revolution?

 

[Deeecoreturns]

Time for yet another revolution?

Haha probably not chief. I don't see what we could possibly gain from it. We don't have the time to run it and I think ultimately a lot of it comes down to a lack of money. The League should be out sourcing sponsorship and other income streams but they don't seem to do that either. I don't know what the answer is but I do think there are some great club owners out there who would make fine USARL chairmen. They just need people willing to put the time in to improve things but nothing ever seems to get done. I don't know if you heard the latest one but there's a test on the 22nd in Jamaica and we have players coming to us asking for money because the USARL INC (the 'other' boys) can't afford to cover costs. After effectively telling us to 'get on with running our little comp' I couldn't believe what I was hearing. Just smacks of disorganization

 

[Deeecoreturns]

At the Mayhem we've today started a proper instagram account (still learning the ropes with this new fangled technology) and it will be active and running from today. We've uploaded a couple of things (quiet day at the office ) and if anyone wants to follow the tag is @tampamayhemrl

 

[deluded pom?]

I don’t do instagram

 

[Deeecoreturns]

I don’t do instagram

Neither do I! It's what all the kids are doing these days apparently so time to move with the times.. Tbf there's some good stuff on there from developmental areas like Nigeria Rugby league who seem to post regularly etc taking some getting used to though

 

[Shark62]

Neither do I! It's what all the kids are doing these days apparently so time to move with the times.. Tbf there's some good stuff on there from developmental areas like Nigeria Rugby league who seem to post regularly etc taking some getting used to though

Jamaican rugby league has a brilliant Instagram account. Have a look.

 

[isavedtheday]

I've been updating the USARL 2019 season wikipedia page the last fortnight with all the latest results and fixing the fixtures. I've just added a ladder as well for both conferences. I have barely any knowledge of how to edit wikipedia pages so if someone who has any idea on how to improve the page or update it to make it look nicer then please go ahead. I will continue to update the page with all the scores as I can find them (unless someone beats me to it! ) I still need to add more fixtures from round 5 onwards as well but if no-one else does, i'll try and get them all up in the next week or too.

Since It's been hard trying to find results and information for some of the games, I thought I'd try and help out us fans that just want to keep updated with all the latest scores. Here's the link if you want to check it out or update it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_USARL_season