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The Comic Book Film Thread *** SPOILERS ***

Game_Breaker

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Technically he was shot after the civil war, after he'd voluntarily surrendered. And even then he wasn't actually killed

And Bucky temporarily takes his place. That would've been a great way to finish the movie.

Unless of course Chris Evans doesn't sign another contract, and given he has one movie left then they'll probably kill Rogers in infinity war 1


Btw I saw it a second time yesterday, and the stairwell/car chase scene with winter soldier, CA and black panther is very underrated. Arguably better than the airport scene
 

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Other than that it was pretty average. The whole UN takeover of the Avengers and all the unnecessary guilt being the cause of the split was just f**king ludicrous. It should have been about Bucky killing Stark's parents. That would have been plausible, rather than just having Stark just accept the proposal right away. Magneto's daughter was upset because she had to stay in on a Saturday night... FFS.

The airport scene would have to be the most overhyped scene in history.

It was above average, but I can see why you felt this way.

I can buy the UN taking over the Avengers. But I don't buy Starks quick stance on it. His character has always been about being free and doing what ever he wants. But is now so guilty over Sokovia and New York, he's willing to turn himself into an authority attack dog? He stopped making weapons out of guilt. Why not just stop being Iron Man? It felt forced.

I was a little disappointed with the subtle change in Visions personality. He seemed less enlightened. I get they couldn't have him sit on the fence, but with him being the most enlightened one of them all, one that none of them had a problem with, it'd make it that much more emotional when Thanos rips the stone out of his head.

The airport scene is being massively over hyped. If it weren't for Antmans super size, aswell as his and Spideys humour, it would be easily forgettable. Enjoyable, but forgettable. There was no tension in it at all except for Black Panther and War Machine falling. The opening fight scene was easily better. Even the chase with Cap, Buck and Panther arrested was better.

Black Panther was the best and most interesting character by far. I felt he was underused. Be interesting to see how his own movie goes as there is no humour in him at all. Marvel may have to stray from their formula.

Spiderman honestly felt like he wasn't needed. Honestly, why buy the rights back for him if they used him like that? He played no role in the build up to the conflict. He wasnt caught in the middle what so ever. He's f**king Spiderman! He plays a pivotal role in the Civil War arc but here he was nothing. He served no purpose for such a big character. He didn't even set up anything for future movies except for the after credits scene. Wonder Woman played a more important role in Dawn of Justice. What a waste. And a shame they went so far from the source material.

It was an entertaining film on its own merits. It was a bit messy in the middle but there was alot going on. I liked it. I liked Cap 2 and the Avengers 1 much better, but this is still good.
 

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Dunno if it was the over hype on the internet (and in here) but Civil War was a little underwhelming to me

Starks rolling over cause some chicks son died in a foreign land was weak. As Bile said, it should have been about his parents from the start. And Zemo just leaving the evidence in the motel room lol

The action was well shot and they did Spiderman and Black Panther justice but out side of that pretty much most of the characters were poorly forced into the story imo

Was entertaining but certainly not on the level of Winter Soldier or TDK
 

Zoidberg

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Saw Civil War for a 2nd time today, still great and I can't decide if this or the 1st Avengers is my fav of the MCU yet.
Cap is def my favourite character in this universe.

Spiderman honestly felt like he wasn't needed. Honestly, why buy the rights back for him if they used him like that?.

I think they had the movie pretty much set before the rights for Spidey were confirmed, and they had his role a bit more minor so if it didn't work out the film would basically be the same. I think his role in the next 2 Avengers films will be much larger.

Starks rolling over cause some chicks son died in a foreign land was weak. As Bile said, it should have been about his parents from the start. And Zemo just leaving the evidence in the motel room lol

Stark also mentioned because he and Pepper were having a break because she wanted him to quit and he didn't that the accords were a middle ground.
And by "the evidence in the motel room" do you mean the body? Because Zemo specifically rang for room service so they would find the body.
 

DiegoNT

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Stark also mentioned because he and Pepper were having a break because she wanted him to quit and he didn't that the accords were a middle ground.
And by "the evidence in the motel room" do you mean the body? Because Zemo specifically rang for room service so they would find the body.

He also said he destroyed all his suits but he can't keep himself out of the game. He suffered PTSD In ironman 3 after the events of new york, he created the Ultron program so he could retire. His wanted out of the game for so long, but at the same time he can't help to get himself involved, possibly from the guilt of his arm production days.
Zemo wanted the body found, he wanted cap and ironman track him down thinking he was creating a team of super soldiers when it was really a trap to get iron man to turn on Cap
 
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Caped Crusader

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No the wig and facial prosthetic

Starks motivations were weak considering his history of thumbing his nose at authority. He took the same side in the comics but only after years of butting heads with the government and shield before coming around

I just felt a lot of the character reasoning for picking sides were either weak or out of character. Hawkeyes were virtually non existent
 

Zoidberg

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Oh ok. Yeah I guess Zemo's whole plan was to get Cap and Stark to the base thing to show Stark the footage f his parents. It worked for him.
Yeah, Hawkeye was basically on that side because Scarlett Witch was and her brother saved him in Avengers 2.
 

Get2dachopper!

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I saw Civil War last night, I had big expectations for this movie, but left the cinema feeling a little flat. As others have mentioned, they certainly could have done more with the story line involving Starks parents.
The chase scene between Barnes, Black Panther and Captain was the best in the film. It also has some extended periods of unnecessary dialogue.
It was ok, but certainly not a patch on the other Captain America films.
 

Game_Breaker

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People bringing up the fact that Cap didn't die?

That was more of a critique of the MCU in general where major characters haven't died (so far). They had a good opportunity to do it here (even if he doesn't actually die) and they still played it safe and changed the plot

The civil war comic had a million times more characters so of course it was going to be the exact same
 

DiegoNT

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They really weren't going to kill one of their biggest names before the big dance in Infinity War.

MCU works because people love the heroes and love seeing them kick ass..that's why it's been so succesful despite not having any decent villians
 

Zoidberg

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As much as I think it would be cool to see Cap die (permanently) and have Bucky take up the Captain America mantle, I would be pretty heartbroken if it happened.
 

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