The Fraud Must Stop - cc Bears is Obvious Choice

[Mad Dogg]

Rugby league was travelling beautifully without ANY Qld team for decades...

You idiots need to learn some history

Obviously you need to learn some history yourself before you go around and start calling people names. Rugby league was never travelling beautifully without any queensland team for decades. The NSWRL was travelling beautifully without any queensland team, but north of the border the QRL (or was it the BRL at the time?) was also travelling beautifully without any NSW teams.

The NSWRL then decided to become a national competition, advertising itself as the premier competition and using its superior finances to establish itself as the best. Because of that, the QRL has fallen away in the public eye and is struggling compared to what it used to be. In some ways it may have been better if the NSWRL had never expanded. However, it did and they now have the duty to help rugby league in areas that were hurt by that expansion. SE Qld, an area that was once complete league territory with a thriving local competition, is one such area. It now has one rugby league team (that half of the public hate anyway) in the top comp, no more than it has in AFL or union. Is it any surprise that those sports have been catching up over the last decade?

Rugbly league in queensland has just as much history, is equally steeped in tradition as it is in NSW. The teams have just as much right to be in the supposed national competition.

Stop looking at it as the NSWRL with a few outside teams playing in it. Start looking at it as the National Rugby League that ridiculously has eleven of the fifteen teams from the one state.

 

[Mad Dogg]

Another point - juniors. Something which the CC advocates always claim gives them the advantage. Generally these are the same people who complain about the Broncos having the entire state to choose from when it comes to juniors. The Gold Coast will have access to the same juniors as the Broncos, so if on the one hand you want to claim that the Broncos have an unfair advantage in terms of juniors, you have to admit that the GC will have the same advantage.

And to look at where the players in the NRL originate from, I'm sure that the percentage of Queenslanders in the competition is much higher than two in fifteen. Both Queensland teams are made up almost exclusively of Queenslanders, and then you've got enough maroons playing in other teams to easily make up one or two more teams. Obviously yet another reason why there should be more than two teams.

 

[DJ1]

As far as I'm concerned,

There is not a Central Coast bid on the table at the moment.

You need to remember that Singo had a dummy spit and walked away.

You don't have a stadium or funds so your first step needs to be finding those before you put crap on the Gold Coast bid.


Current Status of bids

Gold Coast in first place
Wellington in second place

No other bidders!

 

[imasharkie]

When CC get their licence it will lead to the extinction of Newcastle.

 

[Frailty]

On the subject of Juniors, the CC juniors have plenty of choice. They can play for norths premier league and hope to be signed, play for Newcastle or play for Cronlla due to the deal that allows the CC to be a feeder to Cronulla.

Gold Coast only has Brisbane. And Nth Queensland if you want to drive for a couple of hours.

 

[DIEHARD]

Gold Coast only has Brisbane. And Nth Queensland if you want to drive for a couple of hours.

A couple hours? :lol:

 

[RABK]

When CC get their licence it will lead to the extinction of Newcastle.

Why will it? We no longer get much juniors from there, alot of sydney clubs now recruit from there.

 

[DIEHARD]

Why is it that if the Gold Coast don't get in AFL is going to swamp us? Wasn't union going to take over on the CC if the Bears didn't get in? Don't underestimate the strength of our great game, after all we survived SL and are still No1.

Rugby League isn't #1 and you shouldn't under estimate the dire condition of rugby league and its position in Queensland, the frontline of cross code wars.

Central Central saying Union will take over is scare mongering, saying AFL is a serious threat to the Gold Coast and Queensland is a terrorfying fact.

We are getting over run north of the Tweed and it will only get worse.

Rugby League made the mess, it is time to begin cleaning it up.

 

[Twizzle]

yeh, try a couple of days

it was reported in today's Gold Coast Bulletin that Mick Searle will be announcing a new name and logo in August

 

[greeneyed]

2 bids.

One bid, the Gold Coast have:
1. No name;
2. No stadium;
3. Need $50 million!
4. No decison on a location for a potential stadium!;
5. Enough money for 1 year only;
6. AFL dominated demographics.

PLUS average crowds, when in the NRL, of around 7,000 per game!

CC Bears:
1. World class stadium;
2. Connection to 1908 establsihment club;
3. Brings CC and Norths shore back to rugby league;
4. Huge junior base from both areas;
5. Funding for long term (not just 1 year!)
6. Huge crowd support at Gosford and at away games.
7. genuine threat from soccer with A team in gosford.

The GC bid is not even close.

But, what is very suspicious is this huge NRL and News limited push for the Gold Coast whilst not even referring to the far superior bid.

For the Bears, the superleague war continues. But this fraud must stop!

1. Gee a name is going to stop a club plaing football, Rugby League was played by clubs without nicknames for years, they will have one before they enter the comp
2. Carrara - I seem to remember that your stadium is one of the major reasons why you arent in the comp anymore
3. The money will come
4. Awaiting a decision, decisions are made and result in outcomes
5. More money then most NRL clubs
6. AFL dominated my arse, when was the last time you lived on the Gold Coast d*&khead? We need a team here to stop any threat of AFL domination

Population has doubled since last NRL team, averaging well over 15,000 for trials held here...

All the bears have is a stadium, a smaller junior base then GC, A smaller city, cant fill stadiums for Rep games or NRL games held there, Soccer is no threat, your club can live in the past of its 1908 heritage and empty trophy cabinet. GC will be here to stay!

Dr do you actually live on the CC? Will you attend any games? Unlike many of the GC backers on this forum who will actively support a local team?

It's frightening how low on fact and reason these GC idiots are.

GC have had a number of attempts - all rank failures. your bid is nothing but empty promises (money will come - government should fund it - crowds will come). there is no substance behind the bid.

Junior base? CC Bears will have CC and north shore juniors. the stadium was filled for the "no interest" City v Country game. the CC bid has long term funding.

Yes, tremendous crowd support for GC! ?! If the support for the GC is represented by idiots like you, you'll get lost on the way to the ground.

You've got nothing - like your bid!

The Central Coast has had TWO failed attempts at it as well! The Bears are a completely failed entity, that went bankrupt! The Sydney market is already overcrowded. The only way the CC will get a team is if a Sydney team relocates.

 

[greeneyed]

Rugby league was travelling beautifully without ANY Qld team for decades...

You idiots need to learn some history

Obviously you need to learn some history yourself before you go around and start calling people names. Rugby league was never travelling beautifully without any queensland team for decades. The NSWRL was travelling beautifully without any queensland team, but north of the border the QRL (or was it the BRL at the time?) was also travelling beautifully without any NSW teams.

The NSWRL then decided to become a national competition, advertising itself as the premier competition and using its superior finances to establish itself as the best. Because of that, the QRL has fallen away in the public eye and is struggling compared to what it used to be. In some ways it may have been better if the NSWRL had never expanded. However, it did and they now have the duty to help rugby league in areas that were hurt by that expansion. SE Qld, an area that was once complete league territory with a thriving local competition, is one such area. It now has one rugby league team (that half of the public hate anyway) in the top comp, no more than it has in AFL or union. Is it any surprise that those sports have been catching up over the last decade?

Rugbly league in queensland has just as much history, is equally steeped in tradition as it is in NSW. The teams have just as much right to be in the supposed national competition.

Stop looking at it as the NSWRL with a few outside teams playing in it. Start looking at it as the National Rugby League that ridiculously has eleven of the fifteen teams from the one state.

Extremely well said.

 

[Ari Gold]

When CC get their licence it will lead to the extinction of Newcastle.

why? :? :?

 

[bender]

That is such crap. when Perth and Adelaide were being killed off, where were the great "expansion" protests then. You guys are so full of sh*t.

The expansion clubs including Gold coast were killed off to save the beloved sydney clubs because there was too many sydney clubs, so why would anyone support adding more?

John Brass, ex-Rooster and News Limited director, will be the head of the Gold Coast. John Cartwright, asistant coach at the Roosters, will be the new coach. Nick Politis backs GC all the way. Why? Because they don't want a threat to the Roosters - which is what CC Bears will provide.

What the hell is en Easts director doing on the NRL board???? Think about it, idiots.

What the hell are you talking about? The Roosters were an ARL team not a news ltd team. Why would North Sydney make the slightest difference to them? Did all North Sydney supporters become Roosters fans or something? or do you think Roosters want to move full time to the CC?

Rugby league will survive if the clubs are strong. I think GC should be in one day, in the future, when it is ready and strong - not just based on bullsh*t promises. CC Bears will be a powerhouse. We are ready NOW. Everyone knows it.

Powerhouse :lol:

One premiership in 100 years, finished in the bottom half of the ladder in 80-90 percent of the years they played, Struggled at the bottom half of the ladder in their last year of playing, cant win the NSW first division but now are suddenly ready and strong and will be a powerhouse. That is probably the second stupidest thing i have ever read on a message board.

Rugby league was travelling beautifully without ANY Qld team for decades. Now, you say, we desperately need a second one. it's crap.

That is the stupidest.

Have you not heard of the Brisbane league. Back in those days, Qld had about 10 teams and none of us (other than real diehards who had a passing interest) could care less about the Parramatta Eels or ST George Dragons and especially not the North Sydney Bears. Queensland has never had no rugby league teams.

The trouble with rugby league - it's run by blokes with agendas backed up by idiot fans who don't have a clue and swallow any crap that News Ltd media feed them. The game will be lucky to survive by 2007.

You idiots need to learn some history - get a brain - and develop a backbone!

For a long time the Sydney media fed the same CC crap that you feed, unfortunately for you most of us idiots looked at history, and already had a brain and backbone and were able to look past the crap and at the actual bids. Even the Pro Sydney journalists seem to agree with the GC case now. By the way, it isnt just the CC that has fallen behind. Most of the media also pushed the case for a second brisbane team well ahead of the GC. It is just that too has now dwindled behind when looked at objectively. Personally, i would probably but it on par or ahead of the CC in terms of importance.

 

[Everlovin' Antichrist]

The Gold Coast will be the next NRL side. It has to be the next NRL side otherwise the only expansion possibility for AFL will be theirs for the taking.

Waffling on and on about it won't change that dr death.

That is such crap. when Perth and Adelaide were being killed off, where were the great "expansion" protests then. You guys are so full of sh*t.

I couldn't have given a shit about any of them, I was happy that they were duckshoved.

Why?

Because MY team survived.

John Brass, ex-Rooster and News Limited director, will be the head of the Gold Coast. John Cartwright, asistant coach at the Roosters, will be the new coach. Nick Politis backs GC all the way. Why? Because they don't want a threat to the Roosters - which is what CC Bears will provide.

Who gives a shit?

The CC Bears are backed by a f**king sook.

The moment they were told that there was to be no new team the dumbarse crapped on about going to Union or AFL or Soccer.

Go on Singo, do it. Stop going on like an old moll and just do it.

The people of the Central Coast have been shafted from within, not without. It's idiots like you dr death that can't understand that.

What the hell is en Easts director doing on the NRL board???? Think about it, idiots.

Again, who gives a shit. The NRL is having record years one after the other. If he's behind it, I want to have his baby.

This is a f**king great comp. I love it.

But you think it's a plot to destroy the already dead Bears. :roll:

Rugby league will survive if the clubs are strong. I think GC should be in one day, in the future, when it is ready and strong - not just based on bullsh*t promises. CC Bears will be a powerhouse. We are ready NOW. Everyone knows it. Rugby league was travelling beautifully without ANY Qld team for decades. Now, you say, we desperately need a second one. it's crap.

Rugby League will survive because it's a f**king fabulous game. It survived Super League which should have killed it, everything from there is less threatening.

The Central Coast Bears, if admitted, would be the same old crap they always were. Everyone's second or third team because you felt sorry for them.

The trouble with rugby league - it's run by blokes with agendas backed up by idiot fans who don't have a clue and swallow any crap that News Ltd media feed them. The game will be lucky to survive by 2007.

That is prety much the stupidest thing anyone has ever said here.

Record crowds, record ratings, yeah, it all points to the destruction of the comp within 2 years.

You idiots need to learn some history - get a brain - and develop a backbone!

You need to stop being so paranoid and either accept the inevitable (GC WILL be the 16th team) or piss off and follow AFL.

If Singo hadn't whined like a bitch, they may have been the expansion team after GC but I doubt that will happen while he's involved.

The best thing I can say about the Bears is that the Leagues Club has a great Bistro.

 

[gregstar]

The best thing I can say about the Bears is that the Leagues Club has a great Bistro.

hehehe

 

[Ari Gold]

The trouble with rugby league - it's run by blokes with agendas backed up by idiot fans who don't have a clue and swallow any crap that News Ltd media feed them. The game will be lucky to survive by 2007.

what are you blabbing on about?

2004 crowd average - 14 836 (record)
2005 " " " " so far- 17 769

the stats speak for themselves

 

[nqboy]

The tide is turning Dr Death, you've finally managed to provoke the wrath of the Forces of Right :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[Ari Gold]

nice avator nqboy..... ;-) ;-)

 

[vlad]

hey doctor death

can you explain the association between the Bears and the News Ltd owned Storm ?

 

[Heavy Metal Thunder]

The Gold Coast will be the next NRL side. It has to be the next NRL side otherwise the only expansion possibility for AFL will be theirs for the taking.

Waffling on and on about it won't change that dr death.

That is such crap. when Perth and Adelaide were being killed off, where were the great "expansion" protests then. You guys are so full of sh*t.

John Brass, ex-Rooster and News Limited director, will be the head of the Gold Coast. John Cartwright, asistant coach at the Roosters, will be the new coach. Nick Politis backs GC all the way. Why? Because they don't want a threat to the Roosters - which is what CC Bears will provide.

What the hell is en Easts director doing on the NRL board???? Think about it, idiots.

Rugby league will survive if the clubs are strong. I think GC should be in one day, in the future, when it is ready and strong - not just based on bullsh*t promises. CC Bears will be a powerhouse. We are ready NOW. Everyone knows it. Rugby league was travelling beautifully without ANY Qld team for decades. Now, you say, we desperately need a second one. it's crap.

The trouble with rugby league - it's run by blokes with agendas backed up by idiot fans who don't have a clue and swallow any crap that News Ltd media feed them. The game will be lucky to survive by 2007.

You idiots need to learn some history - get a brain - and develop a backbone!

Typical NSW bullsh*t. Before the Broncos inception, the Brisbane comp was only a a step down in intensity from the Sydney comp and contained players such as Lewis, Meninga, Belcher and Miles. Go back to the early part of the century and the Clydesdales were the best team in the world. There wasn't much difference at all in quality.

Rugby League travelled beautifully with two top level competitions, each with their own merits. To refer to 'Rugby League' as having no QLD teams for decades is ignorant, and is unashamedly implying that the Rugby League universe revolves around Sydney.