The grand plan

[siv]

One million percent

Robert elstone did a study and decided the city of Toronto could offer no value to super league

lol

It was crazy seeing all the new fans at Wolfpack games on Twitter. Non traditional demographics too

Toronto needs to part of a north american league structure

Maybe joining Boston, New York conference

 

[Perth Red]

Toronto needs to part of a north american league structure

Maybe joining Boston, New York conference

We can’t get a pro league in France despite the game being played there for over 100 years. You think we’re getting one in nth America anytime soon?

 

[Wb1234]

We can’t get a pro league in France despite the game being played there for over 100 years. You think we’re getting one in nth America anytime soon?

We did have a pro league in France

In six years from start it overtook Union.

Wolfpack had the highest ever crowds in league one and the championship

Super league now could have Toronto ottowa and even New York in the league

 

[Perth Red]

We did have a pro league in France

In six years from start it overtook Union.

Wolfpack had the highest ever crowds in league one and the championship

Super league now could have Toronto ottowa and even New York in the league

I had a six pack once, not very relevant to today!

Err, except
A) RFL can’t afford it
B) those American and Canadian clubs can’t afford it
C) it’s a logistical nightmare with time zones and 8 hour flights
D) nth American tv won’t pay for it, ergo it’s worth nothing to SL.
E) those places have no structure and can’t produce players

but yeh apart from that great idea!

 

[SirPies&Beers]

As are the championship clubs. Take a look at how many SL players played Jnrs in those championship club regions. How many have played either early in career or on loan as youngsters to championship clubs. As SL increasingly uses the championship as reserve grade the health of championship clubs is paramount.

Im bringing it up as Pippen seems to think the RFL giving a bit of money to Championship clubs rather than it all to SL is dumb, merely pointing out its just the same as what happens in Australia.
The championship clubs are also voting members of the RFL, your point is?

The sad hull trackhead trying to compare qrl and nswrl who are governing bodies in their own right and have hundreds of clubs and juniors clubs under their jurisdiction to a fluctuating competition.

championship isn’t a body. It’s a lower grade comp to comparable to the state comps qrl and nsw rl run in reserve grades but qrl and nswrl as actual bodies are more than just those reserve grade comps.
There’s a big difference but again you don’t know what ya talking about, ya never do.

perthwrongs ding dong

 

[Maximus]

We did have a pro league in France

In six years from start it overtook Union.

Wolfpack had the highest ever crowds in league one and the championship

Super league now could have Toronto ottowa and even New York in the league

Would Ottawa and New York also not pay their players like the apparently successful Toronto?

 

[SirPies&Beers]

Would Ottawa and New York also not pay their players like the apparently successful Toronto?

Didn’t covid hit Toronto hard? Ya forgetting that time in the world? Were you trapped in ya cuck chair ya muppet?
Poor minimus the little man who needs a booster seat. You see he is a moron and can’t remember the world only a few years ago, he was getting pegged too hard and now his brain is mush. He cries himself to sleep. Poor poor minimus

 

[Wb1234]

I had a six pack once, not very relevant to today!

Err, except
A) RFL can’t afford it
B) those American and Canadian clubs can’t afford it
C) it’s a logistical nightmare with time zones and 8 hour flights
D) nth American tv won’t pay for it, ergo it’s worth nothing to SL.
E) those places have no structure and can’t produce players

but yeh apart from that great idea!

Hull kr aren’t a viable club without the tv grant

Throw in paying for travel costs of all teams

Then Covid where they were unable to get Covid assistance like your club did to survive

Then the English game decided to kick them out but replace them with Leigh who did get one million pounds from the tv deal which Toronto were begging for

If English clubs treated non heartland clubs like their heartland clubs then expansion would actually work

 

[Wb1234]

 

[Dark Corner]

Didn’t covid hit Toronto hard? Ya forgetting that time in the world? Were you trapped in ya cuck chair ya muppet?
Poor minimus the little man who needs a booster seat. You see he is a moron and can’t remember the world only a few years ago, he was getting pegged too hard and now his brain is mush. He cries himself to sleep. Poor poor minimus

I think in a perfect Canada would of been Ice Hockey and Rugby League not CFL.

 

[Perth Red]

Didn’t covid hit Toronto hard? Ya forgetting that time in the world? Were you trapped in ya cuck chair ya muppet?
Poor minimus the little man who needs a booster seat. You see he is a moron and can’t remember the world only a few years ago, he was getting pegged too hard and now his brain is mush. He cries himself to sleep. Poor poor minimus

oh pssandtears is at it again. Do you have to infect every thread with being a wnker?

 

[Perth Red]

Hull kr aren’t a viable club without the tv grant

Throw in paying for travel costs of all teams

Then Covid where they were unable to get Covid assistance like your club did to survive

Then the English game decided to kick them out but replace them with Leigh who did get one million pounds from the tv deal which Toronto were begging for

If English clubs treated non heartland clubs like their heartland clubs then expansion would actually work

Hull KR have been a viable club without the tv grant, we've spent many a year not in SL since 1997.
Are we really going to cover this old ground again? Toronto were built on a pack of cards and one sneeze and it all fell over. They were given every opportunity to stay in the RFL system and declined as they were broke and not paying players or their bills.

You mean like Paris, Sheffield, Gateshead, Wales, London etc who all got treat the same as heartland clubs?

 

[Wb1234]

Hull KR have been a viable club without the tv grant, we've spent many a year not in SL since 1997.
Are we really going to cover this old ground again? Toronto were built on a pack of cards and one sneeze and it all fell over. They were given every opportunity to stay in the RFL system and declined as they were broke and not paying players or their bills.

You mean like Paris, Sheffield, Gateshead, Wales, London etc who all got treat the same as heartland clubs?

Gatehead didn’t get a full share of tv money lol

Hull kr were in administration once and that’s with receiving tv money and not having to pay for away teams travel costs

Lucky the English game didn’t treat hull kr like they did Toronto

If Toronto had been treated the same as heartland English clubs they would still be around today

You would also have ottowa as well

Instead you’ve got a small slice of land either side of the Pennines which keeps shrinking

Losing Toronto was just behind the Vichy bannnig of league

And we can’t blame Union for it it was all done by us. Well not Aussies. Aussie league would never do something stupid like that

 

[Perth Red]

Gatehead didn’t get a full share of tv money lol

Hull kr were in administration once and that’s with receiving tv money and not having to pay for away teams travel costs

Lucky the English game didn’t treat hull kr like they did Toronto

If Toronto had been treated the same as heartland English clubs they would still be around today

You would also have ottowa as well

Instead you’ve got a small slice of land either side of the Pennines which keeps shrinking

Losing Toronto was just behind the Vichy bannnig of league

And we can’t blame Union for it it was all done by us. Well not Aussies. Aussie league would never do something stupid like that

It seems you want to keep kicking this can down the street.
Haha, hull kr got exactly the same treatment as Toronto, offered a place outside the top division. Difference is we took it and rebuilt to what we are today.
Toronto didn’t pay their bills and players and refused the RFL offer. Toronto wasnt ‘lost’ they gave up due to being broke. No one’s fault but their own, covid just hastened the inevitable.

 

[Wb1234]

It seems you want to keep kicking this can down the street.
Haha, hull kr got exactly the same treatment as Toronto, offered a place outside the top division. Difference is we took it and rebuilt to what we are today.
Toronto didn’t pay their bills and players and refused the RFL offer. Toronto wasnt ‘lost’ they gave up due to being broke. No one’s fault but their own, covid just hastened the inevitable.

Toronto started in league one

Won that competition got promoted to the championship and won that comp

It’s like you just make stuff up and ignore what happened

Hull kr without a tv grant aren’t a viable club

If Toronto has been treated like hull kr or any English club they would still be around

When Covid hit hull kr got covid funding Toronto didn’t

Hull kr had tv money Toronto didn’t

 

[Gobsmacked]

Toronto started in league one

Won that competition got promoted to the championship and won that comp

It’s like you just make stuff up and ignore what happened

Hull kr without a tv grant aren’t a viable club

If Toronto has been treated like hull kr or any English club they would still be around

When Covid hit hull kr got covid funding Toronto didn’t

Hull kr had tv money Toronto didn’t

Toronto was a bad business model. It took the players years to get paid.
That isn't a result of a difference in grant money.

If it was super successful, a grant difference shouldn't be in the way and there's no reason why they wouldn't still be around.

The owner of York even used Toronto as an example of a unsustainable business model.

 

[Wb1234]

Toronto was a bad business model. It took the players years to get paid.
That isn't a result of a difference in grant money.

If it was super successful, a grant difference shouldn't be in the way and there's no reason why they wouldn't still be around.

The owner of York even used Toronto as an example of a unsustainable business model.

The rest of super league copied their game day experience

They got the he highest ever crowds In league one and maybe the championship

Literally Covid shut down argyles business and unlike English clubs who got covid loans they got nothing

Argyle probably would’ve hung around after that but the English game pushed him out

He was called a racist for making a joke about swinton and given nothing from the tv deal

Leigh who replaced them got one million pounds which could’ve gone to Toronto

The whole league loses money so no one English club can talk about sustainable business models

York will be losing big money in super league

Ottowa were literally about to join

Eric Perez could’ve helped take league in England to another level but now he owns a soccer club

Their game doesn’t like outsiders or change

Torontos crowd average would’ve been bigger than more than half of super league clubs lol

 

[Wb1234]

Super League club finances: One profit, four post £1million+ loss..

Super League clubs are publishing their accounts for 2024 - and we are able to see just how desperate the financial picture in the league is.

www.loverugbyleague.com

Hull kr lost 1.4 million pounds

Take out the tv grant and make them pay travel costs like Toronto and their loss is 3 million pounds pa

That’s the team that won super league and was ranked the highest in the game

Toronto just wanted a more even playing field

 

[i0Nic]

Toronto Wolfpack was a massively missed opportunity, an emerging Otawa team could’ve cemented Canada as a league nation. Not to be.

 

[jasonstevenswedgie]

Toronto was a bad business model. It took the players years to get paid.
That isn't a result of a difference in grant money.

If it was super successful, a grant difference shouldn't be in the way and there's no reason why they wouldn't still be around.

The owner of York even used Toronto as an example of a unsustainable business model.

how toronto was originally setup by perez was sustainable he had a great passion and belief in rugby league. it wasnt until he left and the aussie guy tried to rush the plan they became a basket case and if covid never hit, i believe he lucks his way through. i have bee to lamport with 8-10k people there, the events were run really well there.
if eric was there at the end the wolfpack were only meant to be in the championship so would have had a better chance of getting throgh covid