The grand plan

[BuffaloRules]

Nah

the clubs and the rlpa will get him sacked if he loses focus on his primary role

This is what a lot of people don’t seem to understand …he serves at the pleasure of the 19 clubs …

He also has to make the players happy …. Their expectations for a pay day are high after limited pay rises past 10 years on the back of a poor TV deal the last time and the agreement to allow the NRL to invest in assets instead of that money partly going to them…. Does that extend to throwing hundreds of millions at the ESL though ?

 

[Wb1234]

This is what a lot of people don’t seem to understand …he serves at the pleasure of the 19 clubs …

He also has to make the players happy …. Their expectations for a pay day are high after limited pay rises past 10 years on the back of a poor TV deal the last time and the agreement to allow the NRL to invest in assets instead of that money partly going to them…. Does that extend to throwing hundreds of millions at the ESL though ?

If this goes through I bet it doesn’t cost us a cent and we make decent coin out of it

he obviously has an idea Dazn will pay for it so he’s not out of pocket

I don’t mind helping the English game but it’s not a huge priority for us

nz should be a bigger focus than England

 

[BuffaloRules]

If this goes through I bet it doesn’t cost us a cent and we make decent coin out of it

he obviously has an idea Dazn will pay for it so he’s not out of pocket

I don’t mind helping the English game but it’s not a huge priority for us

nz should be a bigger focus than England

We’ll see … I don’t see the Poms agreeing to that … it might have been the plan originally but looks like expectations might be different now …they will think they could just negotiate it themselves with DAZN

 

[Gobsmacked]

It's really interesting to see so many people in RL have an us vs them mentality - our juniors, our clubs, our competition.

I'm a fan of RL, doesn't matter if it's PNG , France, England, Australia or South Africa.. it's one sport - that's US! RL ! Our juniors are in France, PNG and even South Africa

The same people who blast the self interest of the UK clubs, in the same thread say" f**k THEM" let's "focus on US"

We're not going to defeat self interest with more self interest until we recognize that the Self.. is RL and RL isn't a country or area code, it's a one sport.

 

[Wb1234]

It's really interesting to see so many people in RL have an us vs them mentality - our juniors, our clubs, our competition.

I'm a fan of RL, doesn't matter if it's PNG , France, England, Australia or South Africa.. it's one sport - that's US! RL ! Our juniors are in France, PNG and even South Africa

The same people who blast the self interest of the UK clubs, in the same thread say" f**k THEM" let's "focus on US"

We're not going to defeat self interest with more self interest until we recognize that the Self.. is RL and RL isn't a country or area code, it's a one sport.

Yeh I remember how much you supported the idea of a png nrl team lmao

 

[Gobsmacked]

Yeh I remember how much you supported the idea of a png nrl team lmao

Only because I favoured other options, still do but since it has been confirmed, I've given it my full support.

 

[Clarency2]

I feel like we will know nothing about this deal until we know everything. I am skeptical of the Vlad's statements that he wants the NRL and Super League to have a "sibling" relationship. While I expect that it is the NRL's intention to build up the Super League and RL in England/Europe, the priority of the NRL will be the NRL when it comes down to it.

So I guess what I am saying is that I have more trust with the NRL's approach to Super League if they did rebrand it as NRL-Europe. If they did that - then I would expect that NRL-Europe will be treated more as a subsidiary then an actual partner.

 

[Gobsmacked]

I feel like we will know nothing about this deal until we know everything. I am skeptical of the Vlad's statements that he wants the NRL and Super League to have a "sibling" relationship. While I expect that it is the NRL's intention to build up the Super League and RL in England/Europe, the priority of the NRL will be the NRL when it comes down to it.

So I guess what I am saying is that I have more trust with the NRL's approach to Super League if they did rebrand it as NRL-Europe. If they did that - then I would expect that NRL-Europe will be treated more as a subsidiary then an actual partner.

In essence I think you're right.

It's nice to say sibling but what we really want as a sport is to operating as a single entity where all RL becomes our interests. All RL GLOBALLY and it's growth is the NRL'S interest.
Not us and them.

The advantage to Rugby league as a sport would be unbelievable. Seasons, internationals, Origin.. all operating from the same page.

 

[BuffaloRules]

Only because I favoured other options, still do but since it has been confirmed, I've given it my full support.

When are you getting behind the Perth Bears?

 

[Clarency2]

Would it be, though? If the choice is between the current admin of NRL vs SL then it is a clear decision; however if SL/NRL-Euro builds up and enjoys major success (finances, fanbase, etc) then I think SL/NRL-Euro would inevitably want to separate from the NRL and return as its own independent league. What happens then? Is the NRL going to block that move, similar to what we are seeing with current Super League clubs that vote on the take over?

The lingering thought that keeps coming back to my mind is the sheer size of Europe compared to Australia. The roof is much much higher, and if things go the way we want them too - NRL-Europe could generate more revenue than the NRL.

Pie-in-the-sky, sure, but an interesting what if.

 

[BuffaloRules]

Would it be, though? If the choice is between the current admin of NRL vs SL then it is a clear decision; however if SL/NRL-Euro builds up and enjoys major success (finances, fanbase, etc) then I think SL/NRL-Euro would inevitably want to separate from the NRL and return as its own independent league. What happens then? Is the NRL going to block that move, similar to what we are seeing with current Super League clubs that vote on the take over?

The lingering thought that keeps coming back to my mind is the sheer size of Europe compared to Australia. The roof is much much higher, and if things go the way we want them too - NRL-Europe could generate more revenue than the NRL.

Pie-in-the-sky, sure, but an interesting what if.

you take the money now … it’s gunna come with long term consequences

 

[Gobsmacked]

When are you getting behind the Perth Bears?

I am behind the Perth Bears! I'm not behind the incompetent coach and roster they're assembling.
I'm calling it what it is.
I want nothing more than for them to be successful but what is unfolding doesn't represent an NRL team,success is the key to growing the game there and at this point it's looking incredibly grim.

Everyone who's pating them on the back isn't helping, they need a kick up the arse.

 

[Wb1234]

In essence I think you're right.

It's nice to say sibling but what we really want as a sport is to operating as a single entity where all RL becomes our interests. All RL GLOBALLY and it's growth is the NRL'S interest.
Not us and them.

The advantage to Rugby league as a sport would be unbelievable. Seasons, internationals, Origin.. all operating from the same page.

So what happens to clubs outside super league

the rfl want to maintain them, the nrl won’t

 

[Wb1234]

Would it be, though? If the choice is between the current admin of NRL vs SL then it is a clear decision; however if SL/NRL-Euro builds up and enjoys major success (finances, fanbase, etc) then I think SL/NRL-Euro would inevitably want to separate from the NRL and return as its own independent league. What happens then? Is the NRL going to block that move, similar to what we are seeing with current Super League clubs that vote on the take over?

The lingering thought that keeps coming back to my mind is the sheer size of Europe compared to Australia. The roof is much much higher, and if things go the way we want them too - NRL-Europe could generate more revenue than the NRL.

Pie-in-the-sky, sure, but an interesting what if.

The English tv deal is 20 million pounds pa

France can’t get a paying tv deal

even the French union tv deal which is the biggest worldwide in union is dwarfed by the nrl deal

At best the arlc could turn league into the equivalent of division two soccer in England

France offers a lot of potential but as union shows their tv deals aren’t big

 

[Gobsmacked]

So what happens to clubs outside super league

the rfl want to maintain them, the nrl won’t

Why wouldn't they?
Anything to back up this claim?

 

[Wb1234]

Why wouldn't they?
Anything to back up this claim?

Cause he’s only talked about super league money

clubs outside super league need money too where’s that going to come from

and they vote on the arl proposal too in equal value to super league clubs

 

[stratocaster]

Who really knows what the outcome will be?

It's obvious what PVL is working towards though - a global NRL brand - which has content on TV most days of the week most months of the year. It will be 5 countries if he gets the UK deal across the line. If you get fans across both hemispheres more interested in the other, you boost their overall appeal.

 

[Gobsmacked]

Who really knows what the outcome will be?

It's obvious what PVL is working towards though - a global NRL brand - which has content on TV most days of the week most months of the year. It will be 5 countries if he gets the UK deal across the line. If you get fans across both hemispheres more interested in the other, you boost their overall appeal.

This!

 

[Gobsmacked]

Both comps under the same umbrella will work so much better. If you can get both comps played at the same time for a shortened 20 rounds, you can have a bigger international window too and that's why the NRL want England strong..

 

[Last Week]

Both comps under the same umbrella will work so much better. If you can get both comps played at the same time for a shortened 20 rounds, you can have a bigger international window too and that's why the NRL want England strong..

That's not going to happen any time soon. Super League clubs need the gate revenue desperately, thus why they play so many games in the season.

My only concern if the NRL take over the Super League is that they'll try and pressure them into switching back to a summer comp so that there is RL all year round.