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AlwaysGreen

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Fantastic that this game is attracting pilgrims from Australia and England. Awesome that it has the potential to rate highly in England.

However, the aim of the venture is to make headway into the American market. If you're not achieving that goal you might as well play it in Bethlehem if you want a pilgrimage.
 

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Fantastic that this game is attracting pilgrims from Australia and England. Awesome that it has the potential to rate highly in England.

However, the aim of the venture is to make headway into the American market. If you're not achieving that goal you might as well play it in Bethlehem if you want a pilgrimage.
Don't forget all the Kiwi 's going
 

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Wb1234

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well if you're going to say biggest 'EVER' then going for the highest data point (which these aren't by the way) makes total sense doesnt it?
Rather than being so touchy about it you might see the benefit of the Vegas game getting sky more interested in English super league again and putting the contract back up to 40 million pa

Pvl should be getting a cut of that by helping the English game so much

Just having English clubs being more involved with nrl clubs is going to have positive effects
 

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Fantastic that this game is attracting pilgrims from Australia and England. Awesome that it has the potential to rate highly in England.

However, the aim of the venture is to make headway into the American market. If you're not achieving that goal you might as well play it in Bethlehem if you want a pilgrimage.
Agree but I think this initiative has multiple objectives. Even putting aside any growth of the game in the US even if just gambling dollars, it really boosts the local attention of the game in Australia and soon also NZ and England. Massive tv eye balls, press interest, it really carried some momentum and took some focus off rivals.
 

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Fantastic that this game is attracting pilgrims from Australia and England. Awesome that it has the potential to rate highly in England.

However, the aim of the venture is to make headway into the American market. If you're not achieving that goal you might as well play it in Bethlehem if you want a pilgrimage.

That is the aim but the comp looks less Bush League with a larger crowd and Vegas will give NRL a better deal next time if crowds are higher and they spend more
 

Wb1234

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people complaining the crowd at Vegas will be large is peak lu


Seems a way for nrl players to make more money from the American and other overseas markets
 

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NFL Hall of Famer Torry Holt believes rugby league is on verge of an American takeover
After watching some of the NRL’s biggest stars in action, NFL Hall of Famer Torry Holt believes that rugby league can ride the wave of success and make an impact in America. WATCH THE VIDEO.

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Former NFL Star Torry Holt Amazed by NRL Players' Athleticism, Says They Could Thrive in the NFL
A former NFL Super Bowl winner believes rugby league is on the verge of an American takeover as the NRL prepares for its Las Vegas sequel to kick off the 2025 NRL season.

Just weeks after NFL legend Rob Gronkowski promoted the game in a first-of-its-kind TV ad, former St Louis (now LA) Rams wide receiver Torry Holt has made a bold prediction on the NRL’s second trip to the land of liberty.

Once a member of the 2000 Super Bowl-winning team labelled ‘the greatest show on turf’ Holt believes the Australian code can ride a wave of success in the United States.

“I think rugby league is right on par,” Holt said.

“Those guys are jacked up, tough, physical, passionate, so I have a ton of respect for the game of rugby league, but more importantly for the players and the athletes.

“The physical part of it and what it requires to get up, go out, and practice and go out and play — it’s something most of your normal folks can’t handle.

NFL legend Torry Holt. Picture: Supplied
NFL legend Torry Holt. Picture: Supplied
“The game transcends globally, coming from Australia and making an impact in the US.”

Holt, who was recently in Australia with the Rams to help promote the NFL and its new Olympic equivalent flag football, identified some of the NRL’s best athletes as potential American football stars.

“The reason why (NRL players could cross over) is because of the physicality of these guys,” he said.

Torry Holt in action for St Louis Rams in 2000.
Torry Holt in action for St Louis Rams in 2000.
“NFL football is so physical and so demanding, just look at their thighs.”

Stunned by Xavier Coates’ Dally M 2024 try of the year, Holt even compared the Melbourne Storm winger to fellow Super Bowl and two-time Heisman Trophy winner Reggie Bush.

Not having been at Vegas season-openers this year, Holt, 48 is keen to head to Sin City to compare the NRL’s growth in America to the NFL’s down under.

Holt optimistic about the NFL bringing games to Australia.

“It gives me hope that something can happen here,” Holt said.


NFL legend Rob Gronkowski stars in an advertisement for the NRL 2025 season opener in Las Vegas.
“There has been a lot of conversation about it, and I know (the NFL) wants to grow the international series, and maybe one day it will happen here.”

Holt is not only an ambassador for the LA Rams, but also has teamed with younger brother – former Detroit Lions safety Terrence – to create meaningful lives away from the sport, running the Holt Brothers Foundation and Holt Brothers Construction.

Through their foundation, Torry and Terrance help children who have had a parent diagnosed with cancer. They believe there is more than one victim when parents or caregivers are diagnosed with the disease.

After losing their mother when she was only 43, both knew that away from football it was extremely important to attach themselves to something that’s close to their heart.

“Our transition hasn’t been peaches and cream, hasn’t been all rosy, but it has been a fairly cool transition from the National Football League,”

“What we have learnt, that some of your players could take on board, the skills we have learnt playing football, being camaraderie, leadership, teamwork, those are some of the same skills we carry over now to our business as well as our philanthropic efforts.”
 

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Vegas will end up being like magic where the nrl makes millions in profits from it together with associated benefits

Its saves the nrl spending one million on a season launch too

Im sure players love the experience
 

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Fantastic that this game is attracting pilgrims from Australia and England. Awesome that it has the potential to rate highly in England.

However, the aim of the venture is to make headway into the American market. If you're not achieving that goal you might as well play it in Bethlehem if you want a pilgrimage.
It certainly feels like they have abandoned the "grow the game" angle from last year, and are focused on attention it generates domestically.
 

i0Nic

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It certainly feels like they have abandoned the "grow the game" angle from last year, and are focused on attention it generates domestically.
I don’t think so. They’ve got a game that’s going to played on free to air in America which is going to generate far more viewers. As well as ensuring there’s a prime time game on both east coast and west coast.

On top of this they’re maximising viewership in England as well as AU/NZ.

I believe the main goal is still to drive US awareness which will in turn drive the game and gambling dollars over there. The secondary benefit is the domestic uplift by creating another magic round type of pilgrimage.

It’s actually been a great idea hopefully the execution will keep getting better and the US traction will unfold.
 

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I don’t think so. They’ve got a game that’s going to played on free to air in America which is going to generate far more viewers. As well as ensuring there’s a prime time game on both east coast and west coast.

On top of this they’re maximising viewership in England as well as AU/NZ.

I believe the main goal is still to drive US awareness which will in turn drive the game and gambling dollars over there. The secondary benefit is the domestic uplift by creating another magic round type of pilgrimage.

It’s actually been a great idea hopefully the execution will keep getting better and the US traction will unfold.
They literally timed one of the nrl games to get prime time coverage in America in the relevant markets and it’s being shown on the main Fox channel
 

i0Nic

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Yes that’s right.

The NRL will be using this as a springboard for generating new business ventures with US based companies, sports etc. There is cross promotion opportunities as well, for example the NFL are also wanting to grow exposure in AU.

It could kickstart a US based professional competition.

Taking even 1% of US sports betting market would be huge for the NRL. Think about all the NFL fans just craving for some type of contact football action in their off season.

There’s so many opportunities for the NRL from this if they can capitalise on even a third of this it will be a major success.
 
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It certainly feels like they have abandoned the "grow the game" angle from last year, and are focused on attention it generates domestically.

I feel like this is only true through the “reality” of what the newpapers report.

News reporting (like politics) is real-time, competitive story telling to adults. (Imagine divorced parents simultaneously telling bedtime stories to their kids, with the subtext being “your father/ mother is an idiot”. So yes, within the metaphor, we are the kids being told fantasies)

Last year, the “first year” thing meant the narrative could be as bog as they wanted (“we will take over the world!”)
This year, we now have a baseline expectation, so the Conquering America narrative is less exciting and more delusional.

Look beneath the narrative and the ARLC is working hardsr than before. But dont expect this to be reflected in the reporting
 

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