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The Las Vegas Thread

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Wb1234 said:
“According to NRL CEO Andrew Abdo:


The move is also part of a grand vision to grow the game internationally.

The NRL has announced a team from Papua New Guinea will join the league in 2028. It is also aiming for more integration with the Super League in England, perhaps one day eyeing franchises in the US and the Pacific.
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Bring back the Wolfpack !!!!
 
Dark Corner

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Trifili13 said:
Hi Timmah, I agree with alot of your comments. Yes PVL and the rest of the NRL admin should be praised for how they have placed the game in a much stronger financial position and are looking to grow it but at the same time should also be questioned when necessary. I think taking the game to Vegas is good, but it feels like the rhetoric has gone from we only want to capture 1% of the US gambling $ and TV ratings and the money will roll in to what a great way to launch the NRL season, the publicity it has achieved compared to having a local launch and it's a great trip away for supporters (which are all true, but they would have been well down the list of why the NRL has gone to Vegas).

I posted earlier that based on about 50k tickets sold, less that 15k appear to have been bought by American's once you take away tickets bought by Aussie's, Kiwi's and Pom's travelling. And I would say a large % of the 15k would be expats in the US craving to watch a game live. While not fair to compare the NFL, NBA and Baseball with the NRL as they have global recognition, they would draw much larger crowds in Australia from locals despite our much smaller population compared to the US take up of NRL tickets.

As others have noted what do we expect to have happened after 1 year. It would be interesting if there are figures available as to number of tickets sold to American's last year compared to this year and also tv ratings and gambling dollars.
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It took the UFC years before it become the monster it is now so if NRL can afford a loss on it ofr a number of years lets see.....I hope it makes a small profit in the long term.
 
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Dark Corner said:
It took the UFC years before it become the monster it is now so if NRL can afford a loss on it ofr a number of years lets see.....I hope it makes a small profit in the long term.
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Agree. All sports starts from somewhere and if Vegas helps to grow the game in the US fantastic. Even if Vegas doesn't succeed long term the hierarchy should still be congratulated for taking that risk. The financial position they have put the NRL in means they can such risks and absorb losses from such a venture.

The thing with UFC is that you are not following a team but more an individual unlike ball sports where you parochially follow your team/sport so it is harder to gain a foothold into another country's sporting culture against their established sports.

Vegas I think can be considered a short term success, long term still have to wait to get over the initial hype to see what crowds, tv, and sponsorship they have been able to attract. Will Aussies pay a second time to go to Vegas? Will more Americans buy tickets? Will there be decent enough US TV numbers to justify a decent long term TV deal? These and other similar questions obviously can't be answered either way at this point.
 
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Wb1234 said:
Tourism benefit to lv > 100 million usd
Current payment by lv =620k usd

Nrl should wait and get other cities to bid and not accept the first offer from lv

Even if its 5 million usd pa that would make the event a massive profit maker

And 5 million is less than five percent of the economic benefit to lv
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That's a terrible way to do business. LV has been great for the NRL and the NRL has been great for Vegas. We should continue to build that partnership in all good faith.
Besides, name a better stadium and city..

Having said all that, if there's room to negotiate things up a little or a lot.. I think we have the guy to do it..
 
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Gobsmacked said:
That's a terrible way to do business. LV has been great for the NRL and the NRL has been great for Vegas. We should continue to build that partnership in all good faith.
Besides, name a better stadium and city..

Having said all that, if there's room to negotiate things up a little or a lot.. I think we have the guy to do it..
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They were originally looking at la first

Can’t remember the other cities they looked at

Loads of cities would love 100 million in tourism and pay for it

Eels dogs dragons and prob cowboys it should sell out next year

That increases the events value
 
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Gobsmacked said:
That's a terrible way to do business. LV has been great for the NRL and the NRL has been great for Vegas. We should continue to build that partnership in all good faith.
Besides, name a better stadium and city..

Having said all that, if there's room to negotiate things up a little or a lot.. I think we have the guy to do it..
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Agree. Nobody knew if this venture would be a success so Vegas authorities were not going to pay big dollars at the beginning. If this continues to grow and there is enough benefit for both parties you will probably find a renegotiation of the arrangement.

Do other cities in the US have the same attraction as Vegas for fans of the clubs that are playing? While the NRL might get a short term sugar hit by accepting more money from another city, if it doesn't succeed like Vegas, it could damage any inroads the game has made in the USA.
 
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Wb1234 said:
They were originally looking at la first

Can’t remember the other cities they looked at

Loads of cities would love 100 million in tourism and pay for it

Eels dogs dragons and prob cowboys it should sell out next year

That increases the events value
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None better. Vegas is the event capital of the world, with the best stadium in the world and now have boots on the ground, we're understanding how to network successfully in the city..
You can't name a better location because there isn't one.
Having said all that, I'm not opposed to a location change after the 5 years but with that risk, we'd need a substantial financial reward upfront and not one we can source ourselves and risk damaging to good relationships we're building now.
 
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Gobsmacked said:
None better. Vegas is the event capital of the world, with the best stadium in the world and now have boots on the ground, we're understanding how to network successfully in the city..
You can't name a better location because there isn't one.
Having said all that, I'm not opposed to a location change after the 5 years but with that risk, we'd need a substantial financial reward upfront and not one we can source ourselves and risk damaging to good relationships we're building now.
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Sofi ain’t bad and la has loads of attractions and probably cheaper hookers too lol
 
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The only other cities viable for a one off event IMO are Miami and New Orleans.

Nola has an artificial playing surface.

Unless you think people want to go to Glendale...

The rest of the stadiums with grass don't have roofs and are I cities which do not have tourist friendly weather in early March.
 
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Munky said:
The only other cities viable for a one off event IMO are Miami and New Orleans.

Nola has an artificial playing surface.

Unless you think people want to go to Glendale...

The rest of the stadiums with grass don't have roofs and are I cities which do not have tourist friendly weather in early March.
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East Coast timezones don't work back here
 
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