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The Las Vegas Thread

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Rugby league las Vegas is generating $100-200M+ US to the Nevada economy. From what I understand the Nevada government is giving the equivalent of free rent to the NRL for using allegiant stadium and that’s it.

I’d imagine the NRL will be asking for 10, 20, 30M per year for this event moving forward, the ROI is still fantastic for Nevada.

I can imagine the nrl doing a deal with Nevada of 100M+ revenue for the next 5 years to host and it would be massive news here in Australia. Not only would it continue to be a massive season opener part of a global round but a revenue generating machine for the nrl as well. Once you add in the sponsors etc which will keep growing that fee will be pure profit for the nrl.

if it could grow overseas viewership/fans and gambling revenue that would be icing on the cake.

Now imagine this business case being put to UAE, Japan and others. A global round could generate 40-60M revenue in a single year for the NRL PLUS all the publicity benefits and halo effect on the rest of the season.

Would make the fumblers froth.
But, but....India.
 

Usain Bolt

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So the games are being broadcast on FS2 in America, gone from being broadcast on the Fox FTA channel last year. I guess Fox have no interest in catering the Vlandys anymore
 

i0Nic

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I’d like to see Storm going next year I reckon they’ll get a tonne of dual afl/nrl following melbournians going that have been watching the Vegas openers with envy the past few years. It will also generate a massive viewership in Victoria for that game and help to further propel interest in the game in Victoria.

Next year I could see:
Titans v Tigers
Storm v Parra
St Helens vs Hull FC
 

mccarthyj367

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So the games are being broadcast on FS2 in America, gone from being broadcast on the Fox FTA channel last year. I guess Fox have no interest in catering the Vlandys anymore
Yeah, that's a very easy take. Or it might be that Fox Sports USA no longer owns Fox Sports in Australia. It is now owned by Dazn. So there is less incentive for US broadcaster to give the NRL special treatment.
 
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I’d like to see Storm going next year I reckon they’ll get a tonne of dual afl/nrl following melbournians going that have been watching the Vegas openers with envy the past few years. It will also generate a massive viewership in Victoria for that game and help to further propel interest in the game in Victoria.

Next year I could see:
Titans v Tigers
Storm v Parra
St Helens vs Hull FC
Especially if this year is a roaring success with a record or close to record crowd which will silence all the knockers and give the concept genuine cred.
A lot of casuals may hold off if they think the concept is dying, a great year this year will really up the excitement for next year and get those fans you talk about interested.
 

i0Nic

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Especially if this year is a roaring success with a record or close to record crowd which will silence all the knockers and give the concept genuine cred.
A lot of casuals may hold off if they think the concept is dying, a great year this year will really up the excitement for next year and get those fans you talk about interested.
Based on the ticket map it looks like we’ll be getting at minimum 36k but probably more likely 40-45k which would definitely make it a success
 

i0Nic

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No more evident than 360 coming from an apartment balcony instead of that big set in previous years
Yep it looks like Fox have really backpeddeled on their budget this year which is a shame. The big set really gave it an occasion feeling. Unless it’s just nrl360 with the crappy “set” but we’ll see. it seems odd because you’d think they’d want to win the nrl over if they smelt there was a real possibility of nrl going to Stan.
 

Gobsmacked

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Out of all the NRL teams this year that I think will be the biggest movers up the ladder are Titans, Parramatta and Tigers.. then you have the Storm.

I can really see these clubs riding a wave of support leading up to Vegas next year.

I'd also love to get some French flavor involved!

Saint Helens vs Catalans
Titans vs Storm
Parra vs Tigers
 

i0Nic

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Out of all the NRL teams this year that I think will be the biggest movers up the ladder are Titans, Parramatta and Tigers.. then you have the Storm.

I can really see these clubs riding a wave of support leading up to Vegas next year.

I'd also love to get some French flavor involved!

Saint Helens vs Catalans
Titans vs Storm
Parra vs Tigers
It’s good but I just don’t like the idea of giving away a rivalry game like Parra vs tigers that could draw 25k+ at CommBank, rather typically use lower drawing matchups for these events.

You’re right if these teams have big years and with big supporter bases I’d hope Vegas can push 50k+ attendance with 25k from Australia.

Also I like the idea of a French team but will they bring 5/6k supporters like these bigger UK based clubs? If they brought even 3-4K id say that would be more than enough but id worry if it would be less than that.
 

blue bags

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It’s good but I just don’t like the idea of giving away a rivalry game like Parra vs tigers that could draw 25k+ at CommBank, rather typically use lower drawing matchups for these events.

You’re right if these teams have big years and with big supporter bases I’d hope Vegas can push 50k+ attendance with 25k from Australia.

Also I like the idea of a French team but will they bring 5/6k supporters like these bigger UK based clubs? If they brought even 3-4K id say that would be more than enough but id worry if it would be less than that.
yes like bulldog's v dragons
😉
 

i0Nic

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yes like bulldog's v dragons
😉
Yeah I’m against that too what can you do. This is quite unique though because the bulldogs and dragons have some sort of arrangement to share neutral home games to make bigger events like this year they’re doing Vegas and Allianz and sharing revenue from both somehow
 

Gobsmacked

First Grade
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It’s good but I just don’t like the idea of giving away a rivalry game like Parra vs tigers that could draw 25k+ at CommBank, rather typically use lower drawing matchups for these events.

You’re right if these teams have big years and with big supporter bases I’d hope Vegas can push 50k+ attendance with 25k from Australia.

Also I like the idea of a French team but will they bring 5/6k supporters like these bigger UK based clubs? If they brought even 3-4K id say that would be more than enough but id worry if it would be less than that.
I know what you're saying but I think in year 4 with these clubs, even if they're going alright will need a rivalry to boost the crowd.
 

Dogs Of War

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Yeah, that's a very easy take. Or it might be that Fox Sports USA no longer owns Fox Sports in Australia. It is now owned by Dazn. So there is less incentive for US broadcaster to give the NRL special treatment.

Except it's still owned by Aussies who love League. PVL needs to get in there ears and ensure it's front and centre. That said, the timeslot we play in doesn't help.
 

Canard

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The confusion between Union and League shows no signs of abating...

https://www.afr.com/world/north-america/rugby-what-charts-show-nrl-s-vegas-bet-is-struggling-20260226-p5o5kc



Rugby union is rising in the US. That’s bad news for the NRL​

Hosting season openers in Las Vegas was supposed to help the NRL grab a slice of the world’s biggest sports fan and betting market. It has not been so simple.

Jessica Gardner

Jessica GardnerUnited States correspondent
Feb 27, 2026 – 8.50am
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Washington | Sports betting analyst Brett Smiley says the NRL has a steep hill to climb before cracking the United States, but it should take heart from the sports’ growth at the college and high school level.
There is just one problem. He is confusing rugby league with rugby union.


“Ah,” he says when alerted to the mix-up. “I appreciate your explanation there, because I’m not that well-versed on rugby, but I understood that there’s a couple of different types.”

This weekend, the NRL will open its season with a costly jaunt to Las Vegas, Nevada, for the third year in a row. Canterbury meets St George Illawarra and North Queensland takes on Newcastle on Sunday (AEDT) as part of a five-year deal with the Nevada Tourism Commission.

The Vegas play was the brainchild of Australian Rugby League Commission chairman Peter V’landys, who reckoned it would allow the NRL to crack the world’s biggest fan market and take a slice of soaring wagering volumes. But it has not been that simple.

“It’s certainly much harder than I expected it to be,” V’landys told The Australian this week.
Interviews with sports industry observers suggest three key hurdles, and the first one might sting.

Rugby union is certainly a niche proposition in the US, but it already has greater recognition than league. Major League Rugby is in its ninth season, and the USA Eagles will host the men’s World Cup in 2031 (and the women’s two years later). In the women’s game, Ilona Maher has become a breakout star with millions of social media followers, lucrative sponsorships and a muscular Barbie doll in her image.
Could the NRL’s first hurdle in the US be that it is confused with union? David Hampian, managing director of marketing consultancy Field Vision, asks for a quick primer on the difference before answering that question.
“Okay, okay, that is the version my father-in-law watches,” he says of the union games watched by the Fijian-heritage fan. “I think that your average American consumer does not know the difference right now.”

Gambling the key​

What Hampian and Smiley do have a handle on is the betting landscape. A 2018 Supreme Court decision overturned a law that had banned sports betting outside Nevada. Seven years later, in 2025, punters gambled more than $US165 billion ($233 billion) on sports, so there is clearly a big opportunity for the NRL.
The thing is, while many other sports share the same view, they have struggled to compete against the big three. Last year, combined bets on American football, basketball and baseball accounted for 81 per cent of the $US8 billion bet on sports in Nevada (which still leads the industry in betting intensity per resident, but has lost the overall volume crown to the state of New York, whose punters dropped $US26.3 billion).

“Those leagues have just got such a dominance over the sports culture,” says Smiley, the editorial director for sportsbook publication InGame.
“Niche” sports battle it out for the final fifth of the pie, he says.

Hampian, who helped launch Florida’s first online sportsbook Hard Rock Bet and led online streaming platform Twitch into sports, says the NRL is also grappling with an “enormous broadcast gap”.

TV viewers rising​

Last year’s NRL games in Vegas pulled in about 371,000 US viewers on Fox, a 600 per cent jump on 2024, but still below every established US league.
“The NRL’s peak number is roughly on par with a mid-tier UFL spring football broadcast,” Hampian says, referring to a version of American football designed to keep fans watching during the off-season.

Holding games in the February window, between the Super Bowl and college basketball’s March Madness, is helpful, but the NRL will continue to struggle to gain a foothold while it is offering a one-off spectacle, he says.

The English Premier League’s efforts are instructive, Hampian says. The EPL, which, of course, has games playing in a more forgiving time zone than the NRL, has followed the lead of the National Basketball Association and other leagues to broadcast regular live “moments” each week. Think, Friday night footy, as the NRL does so well at home. “They’re trying to make sure they are planting a seed in every major streaming platform where sports fans consume content,” he says of the EPL.
The league has also worked with online content creators to build up the community of fans who engage in “second-screen” opportunities while watching, including fantasy football, messaging forums and gambling, Hampian says.

Still, despite all of this investment, average viewing figures for EPL matches on its US broadcast partner NBC fell 7 per cent to 510,000 for the 2024-25 season.
“The challenge for the rugby league,” Hampian says, “is, how do you make that one moment in time actually a year-round content slate.”

That is for V’landys to mull in Vegas this weekend.
 
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