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The no trys are a f*cking joke

Mark Rudd

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It's fast turning Rugby League into the most predictable game on earth. No more striking in the play the balls. Scrums which are a given to the team holding the ball. And now the run around or decoy plays which are dying.


Seems no one cares? i don't think I've seen one post here about it. Phil Gould makes issues of it yet cockheads like Ray Warren shoot him down everytime.

I mean, what gives? What WAS wrong with that try in the test match where Billy scored? Nothing!! Bill Harrigan is a goose.

I believe the Cowboys had one dissallowed as well last night which was the same deal.


What do the refs want? The attacking team to kick for trys and thats it? Because that's what will happen.


No wonder people watch AFL.....
 

Danish

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Slater ran behind his own player and gained an advantage....


Pretty clear cut obstruction I thought
 

Blind Freddy

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If you want to see people run and hide behind decoys then go watch American Football.

The rule is fine, players just need to execute the plays better and people need to understand what the rules are and why they are in place.
 
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Mark Rudd

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Bullcrap. There was nothing wrong with it at all. Now if a playe from a Sydney team had've scored, you'd all be up in arms.

The defence got suckered and moved INTO the decoys. Their fault. Nobody elses. And it happens time and again.

Manly had perfected an awsome set play that was shut down by over zealous video refs with no knowledge of the game.

Like most fans on this board.....
 

Blind Freddy

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The defence got suckered and moved INTO the decoys. Their fault. Nobody elses. And it happens time and again

If you stay on the same side of the decoy runner you catch the pass from then its fine.

Learn the rules, learn what a shephard is because it's basically the same thing.
 

Danish

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Once again....

Slater ran behind a decoy runner and gained advantage.

Had he been in the correct position OUTSIDE of Hodges when receiving the ball it would have been a try. Unfortunately either he was too slow or the pass was thrown too early and the play was buggered up.

Decoy plays are by definition running a fine line with the rules and the execution must be spot on for them to come off right.

this one was executed poorly, and was punished as such.

There are certainly others that were pulled up that should have been allowed, but this was not one of them
 

Patsy

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Slater try in the test was defiately a shepard

Only thing Melbourne got away with the same play last friday night when inglis scored the 1st try - he caught the ball 1 m on the left hand side of the decoy and ran behind him to score

the cowboys no try was also the right call even thou daley & smith couldnt believe it.

if u watch the saints defender (no 16) he is not committed to either cowboy attcked but the decoy takes him out without the defender making a move - the defender was in a great postion to stop the tryscorer but never got the chance - was no poor read just taken out
 

jimmythehand

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It's fast turning Rugby League into the most predictable game on earth. No more striking in the play the balls. Scrums which are a given to the team holding the ball. And now the run around or decoy plays which are dying.


Seems no one cares? i don't think I've seen one post here about it. Phil Gould makes issues of it yet cockheads like Ray Warren shoot him down everytime.

I mean, what gives? What WAS wrong with that try in the test match where Billy scored? Nothing!! Bill Harrigan is a goose.

I believe the Cowboys had one dissallowed as well last night which was the same deal.


What do the refs want? The attacking team to kick for trys and thats it? Because that's what will happen.


No wonder people watch AFL.....

Mark I can see where you're coming from. But in the Slater case, I thought that the reason the defence made the wrong choices was because they couldn't see Slater. And they couldn't see Slater because of the decoy runners being in the way. Now if that isn't obstruction, what is?
 

B-Tron 3000

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What's a joke is that players need these decoy plays to score.

If anything I think more tries should be disallowed. Attacking players ending up in the defensive line is always offputting to defenders, whether or not the attacker runs into the defender.

It's taken an ageing veteran like Stacey Jones to bring back the run-around and it's just as potent as the decoy play.

Anyway, when did all this passing behind the decoy runner start? It seems like only a recent phenomenom.
 

Mark Rudd

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http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=812463

NRL blocks obstruction rethink
By Steve Jancetic
19:14 AEST Mon May 11 2009













The NRL will not revisit the obstruction rule before the end of the season if at all despite another weekend of controversial rulings and referee condemnations.
Chief operating officer Graham Annesley said there was no scope to alter the rule mid-season despite the men in the middle and in the referees box coming under attack from coaches and players alike over the weekend.
The obstruction call reared its ugly head in Australia's easy Test win over New Zealand on Friday night while Gold Coast coach John Cartwright and Brisbane's Ivan Henjak were both left scratching their heads after controversial try and no-try rulings.
Referees boss Robert Finch backed the decisions which cost the Titans and Broncos possible wins, while Annesley said a desire for consistency meant there would be no tinkering with the obstruction rule in the short term.
"Their intention when they first put these guidelines in place was to make it more consistent and that's the one things that we hear over and over and over again from everybody in the game, that we want to see more consistency," Annesley said.
"The other thing that they set out to do was prevent the game from completely going the other way where you have decoy runners interfering with defence which is not the nature of our game.
"The alternative if you go the other way, then you open up the opportunity for masses of decoy runners and then you have people complaining about why aren't things being penalised."
Australian skipper Darren Lockyer claimed defenders were being rewarded for making bad defensive plays after Kiwis winger Manu Vatuvei came off his wing to tackle Justin Hodges with Billy Slater slipping down the exposed wing to score.
Kangaroos coach Tim Sheens also declared it should have been a try, showing just how far the confusion had reached considering he had brief on the play by Finch only hours earlier.
"I'd spoken to both coaches about that exact same play at a 1pm meeting with the referee on the day," Finch said.
"We've been interpreting it that way for three to four years, we've pulled up tries on that for a number of years now and we'll continue to do so."
Asked if he could understand players frustrations over the rule, Finch said:
"No I can't. This was discussed again at the end of last year where over 90 per cent of stakeholders - which are coaches, players, media and former administrators - agreed that the current interpretation of the obstruction remain."
Finch was adamant Cartwright had nothing to complain about despite the Titans coach being livid after being robbed of tries to Chris Walker and William Zillman in his side's 23-18 loss to Newcastle on Sunday.
Walker appeared to get his finger to a rolling ball for what he claimed was a try while Zillman was denied after skipper Scott Prince had interfered with the marker after playing the ball, Zillman then diving over from short range.
"There are two interpretations for grounding the ball - one's from a kick and one's in possession, and he's (Cartwright) used the one for when a player's in possession, not from a kick," Finch said of the Walker no-try.
"When it's a kick he needs to have downward pressure on the ball and clearly there was no downward pressure on that football, it was a correct decision.
"The other one's a no-brainer."
Cartwright escaped sanction from the NRL for his post-game comments when he claimed "the inconsistencies in that game were as bad as I've ever seen, (for) both sides."
 

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