The Paul Harragon vs Mark Carroll rivalry

[league]

Who more often than not came out on top? And who do you believe was the better forward?

Harragon for me.

 

[Bumble]

:lol:...you must be kidding.

Spud not only dominated him, he shat all over every other prop he played against.

 

[gregstar]

welcome aboard league!

tough call - i'd favour the chief because he was more damaging in attack.

 

[Parra Guru]

The Chief

 

[RABK]

I couldn't split them tbh, both were two of my favourite players. You had to admire their sheer agression and toughness which quite frankly does not exist at such levels today.

Stats wearn't followed as much as they are now by the average league fan so i'd be interested to know how their stats compare.

Btw Bumble, you're a moron - Glenn Lazarus was the best prop of the 90's.

 

[Danish]

I like the Spud.

Who can forget the infamous big hit attempt by the chief where he knocked himself out cold and Carroll got up to play the ball. That alone is enough to get your winner right there.

 

[RABK]

I like the Spud.

Who can forget the infamous big hit attempt by the chief where he knocked himself out cold and Carroll got up to play the ball. That alone is enough to get your winner right there.

To be fair i think you'll find that chiefs head hits Carrolls elbow at 30 km's an hour so that's what caused the KO, rather then any physical dominance by Carroll.

 

[Bumble]

Btw Bumble, you're a moron - Glenn Lazarus was the best prop of the 90's.

Forgive me for having a differining opinion to you oh rednecked one. :crazy:

 

[Bomber]

They only played against each other at club level - and Manly won every game played between the two clubs between 1992 (the year Harrogan made his Origin debut) until the 1997 Grand Final. During the best part of the two players' careers (1990-1999), the two clubs played 18 times - Manly winning on 12 occasions, including two of three finals (the 1997 Grand Final was their only loss to the Knights in a final in this time).

Of the nine seasons 1990 to 1998, Newcastle made the finals on four occasions (1992, 1995, 1997, 1998), including one grand final and one premiership. Manly made the finals on eight occasions (only missing out in 1992) for three grand finals and one premiership. They also won three minor premierships to Newcastle's none.

Between 1990 and 1998, the Knights finished behind Manly on the table every season apart from 1992 and 1998.

Using personal success as a guide, and remembering that rugby league is a team game, I would have to say that Carroll trumps Harrogan.

 

[gregstar]

carrol wasn't at manly until '94 & he left in '98

 

[Bomber]

Ah.....that's right

Where was he between 1990 and 1994? Wests or Souths?

 

[gregstar]

souths

 

[Bomber]

The whole time?

 

[gregstar]

i'm pretty sure - i don't know what year he made first grade though.

i thought he was part of their '89 pack - but my memory aint that crash.

 

[Walt Flanigan]

The Chief for sure. Caroll was just a thug and a poor one at that. I remember in the 97 GF the Chief nailed someone so Caroll comes running in throwing the softest punches you'll ever see into Harrogans arm (I still don't know what he was trying to achieve by this) and Harrogan doesn't even look at him. At an ability level it would be the Chief again, his representative honours speak for themselves and he was a tremendous leader. It was unfortunate his career was cut short with knee injuries. I think he had the same injury that cut short Laurie Daley's career.

 

[Danish]

To be fair i think you'll find that chiefs head hits Carrolls elbow at 30 km's an hour so that's what caused the KO, rather then any physical dominance by Carroll.

Bah, chief is soft.

Can't even cop a paintball bullet without crying like a woman

 

[league]

Hey Bumble, you post on TWG?

 

[Mal Meninga]

Caroll came out on top IMO.

 

[Bumble]

Hey Bumble, you post on TWG?

Yaaaa.

What's your screen name?

 

[tbone10]

spudd owned the chief