The Pride thread 🌈

[Avenger]

They use they/them because they are non binary or gender fluid. I'm not sure why it's an issue?

Gender fluidity goes against the basic fact that gender is tied to biological sex, replacing reality with personal feelings. It’s a nonsense and I don’t pander to it.

 

[Comfy]

Gender fluidity goes against the basic fact that gender is tied to biological sex, replacing reality with personal feelings. It’s a nonsense and I don’t pander to it.

Gender is social and Sex is Biological. They are two different things.

 

[Avenger]

Gender is social and Sex is Biological. They are two different things.

Your claim that gender is social and sex is biological ignores their interconnection. Gender roles stem from biological differences, and separating them creates confusion in medicine, law, and society. Gender cannot exist entirely apart from biological reality.

 

[Comfy]

Your claim that gender is social and sex is biological ignores their interconnection. Gender roles stem from biological differences, and separating them creates confusion in medicine, law, and society. Gender cannot exist entirely apart from biological reality.

What Do We Mean By Sex and Gender?

As we pursue our work at Women's Health Research at Yale, it is particularly important to use language that captures the different concepts of sex and gender so

medicine.yale.edu

Sex & Gender

What are Sex & Gender? And why do they matter in health research? Understanding sex and gender is critical to understanding human health and disease.

orwh.od.nih.gov

 

[Poupou Escobar]

One could make the same argument for religion.

I'm sure we agree the state has no right forcing anyone to participate in religion.

Again, you don;'t have to use xi xir or w/e tf (that is a tiny minority), you can use their name

Or are you arguing calling a trans person by he or her?

If you believe/know someone is a biological male, and the pronouns for that are he/him, do you deserve to be vilified if he/him slip out while talking about that person to others? We don't even use these pronouns when talking to the person, because the pronoun is you. When they're talking about themselves it is I/me. The pronouns people use when talking about me to others are none of my business, unless they are doing it within earshot to offend/belittle/etc, then it is f**king rude, and should impact their reputation.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I don’t go out of my way to offend someone by calling them he or her if they don’t identify that way. I typically just use their names as you suggest.

Yep. It's the walking on eggshells aspect that pisses merkins off. Like that poor little merkin in the Call Me Ma'am viral clip.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Which is just fine. A compromise as it were. Unlike people like Elon Musk who deadnames his trans daughter to the cheers of the phobes or Jordan Peterson who repeats often that he will use what he thinks is the correct pronoun like it's a badge of honour to be a prick.

Sometimes people you don't like (e.g. racists, transphobes) are going to celebrate good policy (e.g. immigration control or the government stepping back from enforcing gender ideology). You just have to deal with it. 'Evil' people vote too.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

You're clutching at your peals here. Dabbling in unnecessary exaggeration over a topic that hardly impacts anyone ever.

Managing risks includes accounting for the worst case scenario, but you knew that.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

what the.. who is demanding that?

I am. When I masturbate at the desk next to you I'm not hurting anybody. Why are you so obsessed about it anyway? Just leave me alone you bigot! At least until I'm finished.

 

[Comfy]

I'm sure we agree the state has no right forcing anyone to participate in religion.

Nobody is forcing you to become trans, either.

If you believe/know someone is a biological male, and the pronouns for that are he/him, do you deserve to be vilified if he/him slip out while talking about that person to others?

Nope.

We don't even use these pronouns when talking to the person, because the pronoun is you. When they're talking about themselves it is I/me. The pronouns people use when talking about me to others are none of my business, unless they are doing it within earshot to offend/belittle/etc, then it is f**king rude, and should impact their reputation.

If it's done with intent to belittle, like using the wrong one on purpose, that is different.

People can misgender butch lesbian women or twink femboys, w/e it's part of our perception. Getting mad because a person used the wrong one is silly.

 

[Comfy]

Yep. It's the walking on eggshells aspect that pisses merkins off. Like that poor little merkin in the Call Me Ma'am viral clip.

See the problem is, the insane ones get amplified.

 

[Comfy]

I am. When I masturbate at the desk next to you I'm not hurting anybody. Why are you so obsessed about it anyway? Just leave me alone you bigot! At least until I'm finished.

I'm pretty sure public masturbation is illegal.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I'm pretty sure public masturbation is illegal.

Lots of things used to be illegal.

 

[Incorrect]

I'm pretty sure public masturbation is illegal.

Fun though.....

 

[Avenger]

This will be my last post in this thread.

 

[Comfy]

This will be my last post in this thread.

riley gains is a massive f**kwit who hates trans people, so are most of those moronic poltiicians

 

[the phantom menace]

This will be my last post in this thread.

If that is indeed your last you could have at least made it a good one!

 

[bazza]

Which is kind of the opposite to Trump's campaign philosophy and early actions... but I guess the world is stuck with that for another 4 years.

if you just consider every minority you don't like as sub-human than you are still respecting all humans

 

[the phantom menace]

Without replying to all recent posts, I'll just state that I'm % with team Comfy here, and agree with everything they* have posted.

(* = pronoun chosen because I have no idea of their correct gender or pronoun preference... it's very easy to do and not offensive even grammatically )