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The Queensland Backline Myth

Big Pete

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Defended against them pretty well? :lol:

Thanks to your backline we were able to make a contest even with sub-standard go-forward.
 

Noa

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Defended against them pretty well? :lol:

Thanks to your backline we were able to make a contest even with sub-standard go-forward.

Yep.

Thas the thing Id be worried about next year for Queensland. IN reality our foward pack is safe and works hard but as I said in the game-thread, we could really do with a couple of big, fast back-rowers.

Off the top of my head though, I dont think we have any.
 

Loudstrat

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Next years possible test backline:

1. Stewart
2. Hayne
3. Hodges
4. Jennings
5. Morris

Folau and Inglis were sub par this series. Hodges has been by far QLD's best back for a few years.
 

Big Pete

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No.

That backline contained Williams and Monaghan. Folau was in the centre's which at the elite level he isn't up to (yet).
 

Nightward

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I've been saying the same thing about Slater for a while now; he makes every play like his team is 4 behind and there's 10 seconds on the clock. Even when he would be best served by taking the safe option, he tries to make everything into a big play. This is fine when it works, but he has the potential to lose you the game just as much (if not more than) getting you a win.

As a half, any player who gets older has to get smarter; they no longer have the speed and stamina of their youth to rely on, and must craft their opportunities through guile. Lockyer's traditional strength was in his running game, and since he wasn't a half for the defining part of his career, he didn't have the opportunity to really learn to apply his skills and increase the subtleties in his game needed to offset his loss of pace. The fact that he is still the best 5/8th going around is more of an indictment on the state of halves in the modern game than it is a celebration of his ability.

NSW won Wednesday night's game not through their own prowess, but due to the loss of Queensland's three top-flight forwards and a gun winger, along with a great deal of aid from the referees. We also had a strike centre (Brent Tate) out for the season at the time. The fact that despite all those factors going their way they managed to win by only 12 should serve as an indicator of just how bad NSWRL's position is at the moment.
 
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I've been saying the same thing about Slater for a while now; he makes every play like his team is 4 behind and there's 10 seconds on the clock. Even when he would be best served by taking the safe option, he tries to make everything into a big play. This is fine when it works, but he has the potential to lose you the game just as much (if not more than) getting you a win.

As a half, any player who gets older has to get smarter; they no longer have the speed and stamina of their youth to rely on, and must craft their opportunities through guile. Lockyer's traditional strength was in his running game, and since he wasn't a half for the defining part of his career, he didn't have the opportunity to really learn to apply his skills and increase the subtleties in his game needed to offset his loss of pace. The fact that he is still the best 5/8th going around is more of an indictment on the state of halves in the modern game than it is a celebration of his ability.

NSW won Wednesday night's game not through their own prowess, but due to the loss of Queensland's three top-flight forwards and a gun winger, along with a great deal of aid from the referees. We also had a strike centre (Brent Tate) out for the season at the time. The fact that despite all those factors going their way they managed to win by only 12 should serve as an indicator of just how bad NSWRL's position is at the moment.

Hmm there was only Hannant and Petro out who was the other forward they were missing?

That statement is lolable. The best Queensland player IS a New South Welshman. The question needs to be asked where would the Maroons be without Inglis?
 

sass

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if we're talking injuries as the reason nsw won, then qld should seriously be questioning the reasons why they won game 2, considering nsw were missing bailey, wing, lewis, jennings, gallen, mcmanus and stewart. did I miss anyone?

I just think ... nsw won. end of story. better team on the day and giving 110% and all that.
 

Dazzat

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How can a backline (the basics anyway) that has won four series straight be a myth? What do you expect ... five tackle breaks every backline move ..?

History will shine on the front row and the spine as the foundation of the series wins.

Back to the point ... there haven't been too many centres in rugby league history better than Hodges and Inglis, and the halves are such a great combination - Lockyer's stability and Thurston's tenacity. The rest of the backline is OK, but for me those four players are the stars.
 

Nightward

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Hmm there was only Hannant and Petro out who was the other forward they were missing?

Nate Myles.

That statement is lolable. The best Queensland player IS a New South Welshman. The question needs to be asked where would the Maroons be without Inglis?

Inglis is a Queenslander. Both he and the QRL believed he was a Queenslander, as did the NSWRL. NSW had no problems with him being selected as a Maroon because they believed he was a nothing player who would be easily outclassed by Cooper and Gasnier. Turns out he's a decent player, and presto chango, evidence magically appears that he "should" be representing NSW instead of Queensland and the whinging from south of the border starts.

Tom Learoyd-Lahrs (sp?) believed he was a Queenslander, the QRL though he was, and the NSWRL decided he wasn't. How much whinging about that chain of events do you hear from us?
 

Loudstrat

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Leyroyd Lars told QLD officials he was a NSWelshman. He said so on ABC radio last weekend :lol:
NSW won Wednesday night's game not through their own prowess, but due to the loss of Queensland's three top-flight forwards and a gun winger, along with a great deal of aid from the referees. We also had a strike centre (Brent Tate) out for the season at the time. The fact that despite all those factors going their way they managed to win by only 12 should serve as an indicator of just how bad NSWRL's position is at the moment.

As Sass said, NSW were hardly at full strength.
 

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