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TheRev

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Mat would not settle for a T&T, but Max I think has some hard decisions coming up... i.e. does he have other options or is he retiring to take up the tools? If so maybe he would be happy to play footy on a T&T wage.. and hang out with his brother for another year or so.

I do agree Max would be really useful as depth, but 1000% there is no way to get him into that Top30 unless we release a bunch of players... not unless Flanno gives up on signing a gun Lomax replacement (and im sure he wont.. we will find some strike).

So our centre depth for next year is: Blaize (or equivalent), Allan, Mat Feagai, SFinau, Suli, Bird and I suspect Buchanan will get one of the remaining dev positions.
 

hewi

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NRL 2024: Newcastle Knights deny roster clean-out is coming as Daniel Saifiti meets with Dragons​

The Newcastle Knights have denied they are plotting yet another roster overhaul, despite having undergone the third-highest clean-out in the NRL over the past two seasons.
Brent Read, David Riccio and Michael Carayannis

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July 7, 2024 - 6:00AM
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St George Illawarra have emerged as the frontrunners to sign former NSW prop Daniel Saifiti as the Newcastle Knights reshape their roster in their quest to end a 23-year premiership drought.
Amid claims that the Knights are plotting yet another roster overhaul, Newcastle officials privately insist there are no plans for a sweeping clean-out, having already undergone the third-highest roster change in the NRL over the past two seasons.
Newcastle have bought and sold 18 players across the past two seasons – only the Bulldogs (25) and Tigers (21) have had a greater turnover over the past 24 months.
However, one player that has been given permission to explore the open market is Saifiti.
The powerful Knights forward has two years remaining on a deal that is slated to pay him in excess of $850,000 a year and is believed to have met Dragons coach Shane Flanagan in the last few days.

The Knights have ramped up an attack on their salary cap since recruitment boss Peter O’Sullivan stepped into the job a fortnight ago and began to take a look under the bonnet.
Saifiti is likely to be the highest-profile departure but others are expected to follow as Newcastle look to create some room to strengthen their squad and make a run at a third title.
One player who won’t be leaving is five-eighth Tyson Gamble, whose retention on a two-year deal was confirmed on Friday.
“Tyson has been a major contributor since his arrival at the Knights,” Newcastle head of football Peter Parr said.
“His energy and enthusiasm are contagious for everyone around him, he plays with a toughness that has earned the respect of his teammates and this community.
“This selfless attitude Tyson brings to our club has meant extending his contract was an easy decision, we are delighted he will remain a Newcastle Knight.”



DANIEL THE DRAGON?
Saifiti is believed to be on a deal that pays him in excess of $850,000 next season.
St George-Illawarra are counting on Newcastle paying a large portion of that figure in order for the Dragons to sign the towering prop.
At the time he signed his huge contract, Saifiti was a State of Origin player and it could be argued the deal was par for the course.
This masthead recently revealed the benchmark figures for front rowers across the NRL and the top five props in the game are paid an average of $1.05 million this year.
Saifiti isn’t one of them but he is one of the game’s elite front rowers and has been an integral piece of the puzzle at Newcastle. Since he last played Origin, however, the likes of Leo Thompson have emerged.
Brother Jacob has also played Origin over the past two seasons while the Knights also have high hopes for NSW under-19s second rower Cody Hopwood, who is still at school and finished at No.2 on this masthead’s list of the best schoolboy rugby league players in the country.
Daniel Saifiti hasn’t played State of Origin since 2021 and since then other star props have emerged at Newcastle. Picture: Getty Images

Daniel Saifiti hasn’t played State of Origin since 2021 and since then other star props have emerged at Newcastle. Picture: Getty Images
Hopwood has been upgraded to a top 30 deal in recent weeks and is in line to play first grade as soon as next season.
There is a view that Tyson Frizell’s days as an edge back rower could also be coming to an end, meaning he could be destined for a permanent shift to the middle.
Saifiti’s contract and the surfeit of middle forwards at the club means he is a luxury item that the Knights can no longer afford. He is also a proven player who has begun to attract interest from elsewhere.
Rival clubs likely won’t take his entire contract, but they’ll chew up a fair chunk of it which should give the Knights room to manoeuvre with other parts of their roster.
LEAPING LEO
The Knights’ cap is tight but that doesn’t mean they don’t have some cracking deals in their favour. At the top of the list is prop Leo Thompson, who was emerged as one of the better front rowers in the NRL since joining the Knights.
Thompson was signed by Newcastle from Canberra’s Jersey Flegg team in the lead-up to the 2022 season and the Knights quickly extended his contract until the end of 2025.
At the time, he was a relative unknown and it is understood his deal pays him less than $300,000 this season, well below the benchmark for a front-rower of his class.
Next year, it goes up but not by a significant amount. Newcastle know they have a bargain in their ranks – Thompson made his Test debut for New Zealand last season – but they also know their hands are tied by their cap constraints.
Newcastle have found a bargain in young front rower Leo Thompson. Picture: NRL Photos

Newcastle have found a bargain in young front rower Leo Thompson. Picture: NRL Photos
They would no doubt love to give Thompson an upgrade next year as part of a long-term extension that would keep him at the club for the foreseeable future.
They just don’t have the wriggle room to do it and rival clubs are watching with genuine interest as they plot an attack on the Newcastle roster, targeting arguably their best front rower.
Newcastle can ill afford to lose him, particularly if they allow Saifiti to leave ahead of schedule. They also know their chances of keeping him will slip dramatically unless they can find a way to upgrade him at some point before November
 

Auntie.Gerald

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Well 2025 is looking a little different - hopes were AFB on $1.1m pa

So…….is having Saifiti (Dan) on say $550k pa plus JDB on say $550k pa actually better for us ? If it comes off?

will Neecastle pay $250k to $350k pa of Dans contract? Are we takers at $600k pa or below? But above $600k pa we are not interested vs other options?

Saifiti, Cook, FMolo
Luc, SuA
TomE?

14. Sele
15. JDB
16. Couchman
17. RFM

ps Leo Thompsons twin brother 186cm and 111kg could be a great get for Newcastle if they free up dollars. Clever cap bending POS.

From rugby but not international - does he get first year Sal cap free / NRL case by case rugby raid
 
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Jeremy Dragon

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Well 2025 is looking a little different - hopes were AFB on $1.1m pa

So…….is having Saifiti (Dan) on say $550k pa plus JDB on say $550k pa actually better for us ? If it comes off?

will Neecastle pay $250k to $350k pa of Dans contract? Are we takers at $600k pa or below? But above $600k pa we are not interested vs other options?

Saifiti, Cook, FMolo
Luc, SuA
TomE?

14. Sele
15. Lawrie?
16. Couchman
17. RFM

ps Leo Thompsons twin brother 186cm and 111kg could be a great get for Newcastle if they free up dollars. Clever cap bending POS.

From rugby but not international - does he lad first year Sal cap free / NRL case by case rugby raid
Jack say hi
 

RedV Resurgence

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Well 2025 is looking a little different - hopes were AFB on $1.1m pa

So…….is having Saifiti (Dan) on say $550k pa plus JDB on say $550k pa actually better for us ? If it comes off?

will Neecastle pay $250k to $350k pa of Dans contract? Are we takers at $600k pa or below? But above $600k pa we are not interested vs other options?

Saifiti, Cook, FMolo
Luc, SuA
TomE?

14. Sele
15. Lawrie?
16. Couchman
17. RFM

ps Leo Thompsons twin brother 186cm and 111kg could be a great get for Newcastle if they free up dollars. Clever cap bending POS.

From rugby but not international - does he lad first year Sal cap free / NRL case by case rugby raid
Hey Auntie, Think you. missed DeBelin
 

KogarahWarrior

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he is the one we have to keep long term from the little i have see of him/ can anyone on here tell me more about him.
The kid is a freak. Not a giant at 183cm but at 110kg he just drags defenders with him every time he runs the ball. Even in u19 origin being the youngest one on the field he made runs where he had 20pcm per carry. He's also a firebrand that can pull off a massive hit and also has good footwork for a big fella and has great leadership qualities.
 

JubileeJeffro

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The kid is a freak. Not a giant at 183cm but at 110kg he just drags defenders with him every time he runs the ball. Even in u19 origin being the youngest one on the field he made runs where he had 20pcm per carry. He's also a firebrand that can pull off a massive hit and also has good footwork for a big fella and has great leadership qualities.
Didn’t realise he was that big. Exciting prospect him and his brother.
 

TheRev

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Im fairly certain unless something has changed that Jake will be 2026 in our Top30.. still very young, the wording of extended squad as Auntie mentions is very confusing.
 

Auntie.Gerald

First Grade
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Halangahu is in the supplementary list (one of 6) for next year and top 30 the year after.
Thanks FF

mate do u know the 2025 six supp players and if so could u pop them below?

that would be awesome. Many thanks

1.Halangahu
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.

I was guessing the six supp players for 2025 may come this grouping of emerging talent?

1.Latu

2.Tsougranis

3.Ackers

4. Halangahu

5.Jett Liu?

6.Meafou?

7.Cyrus Stanley Traill?

8.Mason Phillips?
 
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jak

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The kid is a freak. Not a giant at 183cm but at 110kg he just drags defenders with him every time he runs the ball. Even in u19 origin being the youngest one on the field he made runs where he had 20pcm per carry. He's also a firebrand that can pull off a massive hit and also has good footwork for a big fella and has great leadership qualities
thanks for the info mate
 
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