The Rumours Thread

[Jubilee]

In Leo’s case he may well . The man is young and can hold his own against most other forward packs in the competition.

Flanagan requires a top-of-the-line prop that he can build his team around , more so the young forwards coming into the team’s top 30 next season .

Aggression , defense and he goes for the entire 80 minutes , he Flanno must open the purse strings to sign such an individual as it would pay dividends for many years to come .

The Big Red V would finally have a prop whom is 1st class and would only get better as he ages . But as I have said in my earlier post , I cast doubt upon the story that he has signed with the Dragons .

One big benefit iwith Leo is that age-wise he is coming into the sweet spot for modern props, 25-28. Sure there are still older JWH types but they are rare.

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

One big benefit iwith Leo is that age-wise he is coming into the sweet spot for modern props, 25-28. Sure there are still older JWH types but they are rare.

I think physically the male specimen is supposed to naturally hit his peak about 29, but it’s pretty hard to gauge players with all their training, injuries and other unnatural forces on their bodies.

What was that analogy? A kind of front-on collision at x mph, several times a game many times a season, over many seasons. And even luck can play a role, an inch here or there could determine your future in the game.

Back in the day, anything under the nose was fair game.

We are a fickle lot. Everyone wants the awesome physicality, but no one likes an injury ( I don’t anyway).

I’ve spoken to a few ex junior players, gave up before the big time on grounds of extreme hatred of blunt force, back and ankle injuries.

This time last year I think Volkswagen was supposed to coming over. Putting aside the rights and wrongs of the contract, on arrival, he couldn’t pass the ball. I wonder how he’s going?

 

[Jubilee]

I think physically the male specimen is supposed to naturally hit his peak about 29, but it’s pretty hard to gauge players with all their training, injuries and other unnatural forces on their bodies.

What was that analogy? A kind of front-on collision at x mph, several times a game many times a season, over many seasons. And even luck can play a role, an inch here or there could determine your future in the game.

Back in the day, anything under the nose was fair game.

We are a fickle lot. Everyone wants the awesome physicality, but no one likes an injury ( I don’t anyway).

I’ve spoken to a few ex junior players, gave up before the big time on grounds of extreme hatred of blunt force, back and ankle injuries.

This time last year I think Volkswagen was supposed to coming over. Putting aside the rights and wrongs of the contract, on arrival, he couldn’t pass the ball. I wonder how he’s going?

Old Timer made the point that the game has always attracted a certain % of criminal types and we all know this is true. Rugby league is probably the only mainstream sport in the world that is based on legitimizing the natural skill set of standover merchants. Altho it has been cleaned up a lot.

 

[Old Timer]

Old Timer made the point that the game has always attracted a certain % of criminal types and we all know this is true. Rugby league is probably the only mainstream sport in the world that is based on legitimizing the natural skill set of standover merchants. Altho it has been cleaned up a lot.

Drug related offences of all sorts, driving related offences of all sorts, DV related offences of all sorts, petty criminals offences of all sorts, gun related, stealing and fencing stolen goods offences of all sorts, offences against women of all sorts, stand over merchants and petty thugs of all sorts yes indeed it is a game that produces so many role models that so many of our youth have emulated.

 

[Mojo]

Drug related offences of all sorts, driving related offences of all sorts, DV related offences of all sorts, petty criminals offences of all sorts, gun related, stealing and fencing stolen goods offences of all sorts, offences against women of all sorts, stand over merchants and petty thugs of all sorts yes indeed it is a game that produces so many role models that so many of our youth have emulated.

There’s no denying that the hard physical contest of some sports attract and reward certain personality traits and types that can also become socially undesirable at the extreme.
The difference with drugs is that they are artificial, generally corrupted products that are addictive, mind-altering substances that are relentlessly pushed by global underworld organised crime syndicates. They destroy people‘s lives and the social fabric. This is undeniable simply on the basis of the empirical evidence on a global scale.
Human cultures have always cultivated and celebrated their warriors. They’ve also always used mind-altering substances.
Combining the two, excusing it, and promoting it as a social model of success is, in my opinion, an extremely dangerous phenomenon, both individually and collectively.

 

[Slippery Morris]

Spencer copped 8 weeks for calling Mam a monkey. If Mam gets less than 8 weeks for injuring a child driving with no licence and high on drugs then the NRL are the biggest joke in history for all codes. It will then be so obvious that it is not the crime that you are judged on but the colours you wear.

Mam should get the same punishment as Amone if the NRL are serious about player behaviour and bringing the game in disrepute. Getting behind the wheel in that state he is there was every chance he could kill someone on the road and he nearly did.

Broncos have golden boy Hunt so have a replacement in place for Mam. No real loss to them so 12 months will not hurt them as much as it will hurt the NRL community if he gets let off lightly.

 

[Auntie.Gerald]

I suspect he will get 12months

 

[getsmarty]

I suspect he will get 12months

Would make sense with the Hunt signing.

 

[getsmarty]

Forgotten playmaker’s career lifeline; Raiders set to win six-team race: Free Agency LIVE

Forgotten playmaker’s career lifeline; Raiders set to win six-team race: Free Agency LIVE

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[Mojo]

Would make sense with the Hunt signing.

Talk about double jeopardy ....LOL. It couldn't happen to a better club - poor Broncos.

 

[shadowformz]

Not shore if this is the right place for this post, but I was wondering if anybody can give me an update on what's happening with Adam Gee. Is he going to be refereeing in 2025.

 

[Gareth67]

Is this legit?

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Good lawd , can you believe it ! Those bloody rorters have come out of the blue hoping to lure Leo Thompson away from the Dragons.

And here we were thinking that he was signed , sealed and - well all but delivered . Just goes to prove that you can never keep a a sneaky rorter down !

 

[Slippery Morris]

Bulldogs coaching staff rated NRL’s best in player poll amid $4m lawsuit

Bulldogs coaching staff rated NRL’s best in player poll amid $4m lawsuit

www.foxsports.com.au

Media keeping quiet on this poor dude who is out of the game and suing the club for poor workplace treatment which caused him mental illness and then bring out this article to support the club that has caused this. If it were Saints or any other club they would be smashed. I find this really poor and shows how protected a certain club is in the NRL. They control the media and always spruik themselves up as being the best club in NSW. Pretty sad for the player and his family. All this article does is make it seem the guy is faking it and the best club in the world are being unfairly treated. They are clearly picking sides.

If Topine wins his legal battle which he has a pretty big chance of doing so, this will really impact the game as training methods will be under the microscope and other players may come out of the woodwork and sue their clubs. NRL should be doing all they can to show more support to the guy and having these articles surely won't help.

 

[John moz]

Kyle Flanagan signed till 2027 WHY ?

 

[Sage63]

Kyle Flanagan signed till 2027 WHY ?

Why not???

 

[Harry Bath]

Why not???

I thought he was pretty good in 2024 he will be a good back up half, hooker or number 14

 

[Jubilee]

Bulldogs coaching staff rated NRL’s best in player poll amid $4m lawsuit

Bulldogs coaching staff rated NRL’s best in player poll amid $4m lawsuit

www.foxsports.com.au

Media keeping quiet on this poor dude who is out of the game and suing the club for poor workplace treatment which caused him mental illness and then bring out this article to support the club that has caused this. If it were Saints or any other club they would be smashed. I find this really poor and shows how protected a certain club is in the NRL. They control the media and always spruik themselves up as being the best club in NSW. Pretty sad for the player and his family. All this article does is make it seem the guy is faking it and the best club in the world are being unfairly treated. They are clearly picking sides.

If Topine wins his legal battle which he has a pretty big chance of doing so, this will really impact the game as training methods will be under the microscope and other players may come out of the woodwork and sue their clubs. NRL should be doing all they can to show more support to the guy and having these articles surely won't help.

1. I wonder how Topine was able to "consent" to taking part in that "training" activity when instructed to by his employer given that he certainly would have have perceived himself to be under pain of sanction or dismissal if he had declined.

2. I wonder if this "best trainers" club was in this case in fact putting considerations of team discipline above those of player welfare.

3. What was the underlying theory behind this wrestling punishment? Was it simply corporal punishment? Is there also a counseling element? What is the role of psychological punishment in this exercise?

4. What measures were taken to ensure that this punishment was not excessive or carried to an extreme? Who monitored the physical or mental condition of the player under punishment and using what measures?

5. Have you kept any records of this monitoring?

6. Do you have guidelines for monitoring this punishment?

7. Have you previously imposed this punishment?

8. What other kinds of corporal or psychological punishments do you employ in your training methods?

9. Do you monitor them? Do you have any guidelines?

10. Have you ever held any kind of formal or informal review of these punishments?

11. And so on, until the witnesses are cooked and shown to be careless and incompetent.

 

[Hound of Dracula]

1. I wonder how Topine was able to "consent" to taking part in that "training" activity when instructed to by his employer given that he certainly would have have perceived himself to be under pain of sanction or dismissal if he had declined.

2. I wonder if this "best trainers" club was in this case in fact putting considerations of team discipline above those of player welfare.

3. What was the underlying theory behind this wrestling punishment? Was it simply corporal punishment? Is there also a counseling element? What is the role of psychological punishment in this exercise?

4. What measures were taken to ensure that this punishment was not excessive or carried to an extreme? Who monitored the physical or mental condition of the player under punishment and using what measures?

5. Have you kept any records of this monitoring?

6. Do you have guidelines for monitoring this punishment?

7. Have you previously imposed this punishment?

8. What other kinds of corporal or psychological punishments do you employ in your training methods?

9. Do you monitor them? Do you have any guidelines?

10. Have you ever held any kind of formal or informal review of these punishments?

11. And so on, until the witnesses are cooked and shown to be careless and incompetent.

You don't work in HR by any chance?

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

1. I wonder how Topine was able to "consent" to taking part in that "training" activity when instructed to by his employer given that he certainly would have have perceived himself to be under pain of sanction or dismissal if he had declined.

2. I wonder if this "best trainers" club was in this case in fact putting considerations of team discipline above those of player welfare.

3. What was the underlying theory behind this wrestling punishment? Was it simply corporal punishment? Is there also a counseling element? What is the role of psychological punishment in this exercise?

4. What measures were taken to ensure that this punishment was not excessive or carried to an extreme? Who monitored the physical or mental condition of the player under punishment and using what measures?

5. Have you kept any records of this monitoring?

6. Do you have guidelines for monitoring this punishment?

7. Have you previously imposed this punishment?

8. What other kinds of corporal or psychological punishments do you employ in your training methods?

9. Do you monitor them? Do you have any guidelines?

10. Have you ever held any kind of formal or informal review of these punishments?

11. And so on, until the witnesses are cooked and shown to be careless and incompetent.

Yes excellent and you can set them up first:

Q: mr topine is in your employ is that right?
A:yes

Q: and under his contract he is bound to obey your directions is that right?
a: um

Q: We, he’s not being paid to do anything he wants is he? He’s being paid to train, obey directions, play and club commitments?
A: yes

Q: And as he’s under this obligation, you have obligations to him don’t you?
A: um

Q: You have statutory obligations to your employees don’t you?
a um, yes

Q: You have an obligation not to harm them dont you?
a: we didn’t harm him

Q: answer yes or no Sir, you can’t harm someone who is working for you can you?
A: No
And once the CEO or related party has accepted these propositions, you go through the punishment directives he received and things he had to do. And try to get the witness to accept he was harmed.

Eliminate all other possibilities except his harm coming from his dogs sojourn

And put it to him that if didn’t give these directives, Topine wouldn’t have suffered.

In that way, you cast the responsibility onto them. He was all Ok until they started bullying him, then the expert witness agrees and says he can’t work again.

There’s a lot more to add etc, but this would be my initial idea.

And I’d borrow your topic areas jubilee.

But it’s always good to get your witness to accept comfy propositions, things that make sense.. and then smash them, get it out of them that they haven’t been fair or acting legally.

Plus I’d put it to them that he they could’ve handled him differently. Which they’d have to agree with.

And the possibility that if they did, he wouldn’t have been harmed.

All players have different mental dispositions too. Ie Galvin is shy, JErome is confident.

 

[Draginzaaar]

Kyle Flanagan signed till 2027 WHY ?

He ticks a lot of boxes and is cheap.