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The Territorial Draft blue-print

The Colonel

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It's out in the cold

By PAUL KENT Rugby League Writer

December 14, 2004

THE NRL's radical new territorial draft is doomed to failure despite saving clubs about $8 million a year.


The Daily Telegraph can reveal today the blueprint for the new territories which the NRL was hoping to keep confidential until further discussion could be held.

While many clubs are comfortable with the areas they have been allocated, most keeping the country area they are already closely linked to, there is enough opposition to see the draft failing to get up.


The draft will fail on several levels:


* The Broncos will object to Brisbane being divided up among Sydney clubs and also at being locked out of the Sunshine Coast. The Broncos believe this will affect their identity within the city.


* The Cowboys will object to losing the vital Central Queensland feeder area and also the loss of its Queensland State Cup competition.


* Melbourne will seek an added $1million to compensate for the relocation of players to Melbourne, a request that will be denied.


"It doesn't suit Queensland fullstop," ARL chief executive Geoff Carr said.


The territorial draft was designed to sit with an elite under-20 competition, similar to what the AFL operates.


An external draft had been considered -- but expected opposition from the Rugby League Professionals Association eliminates that option.


"Fifteen clubs have to agree to it to get off the ground and not all the clubs are excited," Carr said.


"Brisbane feel as if it is not really fair to them."


The great benefit for the NRL clubs would be their savings under the draft, especially considering the poker-machine tax.


More than $11m was spent on junior recruitment last season -- money spent outside each club's top 25 players.


The massive cost was generated because some clubs stockpiled talent.


Players as young as 14 are being signed by clubs, basically to prevent them from signing with rival clubs.


Many of those players are then being relocated to Sydney, Brisbane or wherever they have signed as early as the age of 16, stripping their own local league of developing talent with still no guarantee that they will succeed.


In fact, the attrition rate is so high several clubs estimated that only 15-20 per cent of those players ever saw first grade.


Under the territorial draft clubs would have to wait until players are 18 before they could sign them.


The clubs would have first rights on five players from within their allocated region before other clubs could move in.


At a base salary of $37,500 per season, this would be expected to cost the NRL clubs about $2.8million -- far below the $11m already spent.


Broncos chief executive Bruno Cullen, while acknowledging he was looking after Brisbane's interests, said the city would suffer if the investment the Broncos put into junior development was refined to only certain areas.


Souths chief executive Shane Richardson favours an external draft in conjunction with an elite state league, saying the State Government's poker-machine tax will impact heavily on the territorial draft.


"There is going to be a financial hole when the poker-machine tax comes in and the first area you are going to look at saving costs is the development where you don't really need to do it," Richardson said.


"We should be planning now for it."


NRL chief executive David Gallop said last night: "It was the clubs that asked us to complete this exercise.


"We've done that at their request and it is still very much a discussion phase document."

http://dailytelegraph.news.com.au/story.jsp?sectionid=1264&storyid=2380517
 

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Under the proposed agreement we would receive the Group 11 area. This includes Dubbo, Parkes, Forbes etc. - an area from which quite a few pretty good footballers have come from.

I do howevere believe a pure draft from an U20's competition - as suggested by Denis, Shane Richardson etc - would be more beneficial.


What do you think would be of more benefit to the Eels?
 

Stagger eel

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I would be absolutely wrapped at that area when you consider who has come out of there.

ofcourse, it won't get off the ground mainley because the 8th wonder of the world [the Broncos] won't except it.
 

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What you have to remember though is

Under the territorial draft clubs would have to wait until players are 18 before they could sign them.

The clubs would have first rights on five players from within their allocated region before other clubs could move in.

Does this mean we are only allowed five players from the two areas overall or combined (to equal 10).

On top of that if we are only allowed five players before other clubs can move in what is the point of investing in junior development? Spend your money in Group 11 and get them to do the bulk of the work.....
 

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I wouldn't mind seeing more interstate comps come into this equation, ie SARL (duh like you wouldn't have guessed that), WARL, NTRL, VRL etc.

Also the areas of the bush that are experiencing lack of support.
the Broken Hill RL was going from strength to strength in the early to mid '90s. I think it was group 23 when they played a pre season comp final out there. They lost that affiliation and now it is almost if not totally defunct.

Rather than fight over different parts of qld they need to be putting money into these areas.

I also think an under 20's draft would be good and also giving de-listed or retired players the opportunity to nominate themselves for the draft would be of the best benefit to league in general.

I don't think either of the two forms put forward gives Parra any advantage. Parra are best served by a free for all as it is a club that players want to go to.

The divvying up of the zones gives parra the freedom of it's own juniors but is limited to only 1 bush area and the draft gives them a better shot at players that may want to be somewhere else so may only stick around for a couple of years.
 

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The Colonel said:
What you have to remember though is

Under the territorial draft clubs would have to wait until players are 18 before they could sign them.

The clubs would have first rights on five players from within their allocated region before other clubs could move in.

Does this mean we are only allowed five players from the two areas overall or combined (to equal 10).

On top of that if we are only allowed five players before other clubs can move in what is the point of investing in junior development? Spend your money in Group 11 and get them to do the bulk of the work.....

it would basically mean they are entitled to the top 5 players in that allocated region 5 from Group 11/ 5 from Parramtta Juniors that's my understanding.
 

BD5733

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If there is a bunch of 19 year old professional footballers travelling aronud the country on more money than they know what to do with, what do people think they will get up to?

For this reason, I dont like the Elite U/20's Competition idea.
 

The Engineers Room

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I prefer an actual draft that seperates the junior clubs from their NRL top sides. But giving preferrence to that NRL club to have a good crack.
 

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its a step backwards to where we were 30 years ago, and I note that it is all designed to save money on juniors.

This could stop the likes of the chooks buying club championships, but the money may be an issue, if these kids have a union, they will all be on less money till they are 18.

It all gets back to the fact that, are the clubs happy with their group, and they will have good and bad recruiting years.
 

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