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The Unusual Suspects - Case for Teams 21/22 in 2040 & Beyond.

Who Will Be Team 21 & 22 after 2040.

  • Ipswich - Jets

    Votes: 11 40.7%
  • Wellington - Orcas

    Votes: 6 22.2%
  • South Island NZ - Kea

    Votes: 5 18.5%
  • South Island NZ - TBC

    Votes: 5 18.5%
  • Central QLD - TBC

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Adelaide - TBC

    Votes: 11 40.7%
  • Fiji - Silvertails

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Pasifika Moana - TBC

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Hawaii - TBC

    Votes: 3 11.1%
  • Sunshine Coast - Falcons

    Votes: 1 3.7%
  • Melbourne 2 - TBC

    Votes: 2 7.4%
  • Brisbane 3 - Fire Hawks (via. Easts Tigers)

    Votes: 2 7.4%
  • Central Coast - TBC

    Votes: 1 3.7%
  • No more teams after Team 20.

    Votes: 1 3.7%

  • Total voters
    27

BuffaloRules

Coach
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Love PVL but QLD RL doesn't need or want NSW sloppy seconds.

If Ipswich come in… they are already called the Jets … don’t think the agreement needs to be any more than giving them a blue jersey to wear once a year, as one of their 6 alternate jerseys , at an away game at Leichhardt oval or Belmore to try to sell a few memberships in Sydney .. It’s all about the $$$$ these days ..
 

flippikat

First Grade
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5,593
Love PVL but QLD RL doesn't need or want NSW sloppy seconds.
Yeah, there's a big difference between Perth hooking up with an old Sydney club & a Brisbane/Ipswich-based bid doing likewise.

The baked-on rivalry between NSW & Qld makes it a tougher sell - no matter how successful the Perth Bears are.

Besides, we don't need any more teams in blue... and the chances are that a Newtown faction will lobby for that.
 

cinders7

Juniors
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87
Brisbane 3 needs to be done right, even though it's in the heartland.

I really hope the NRL don't see the success of Redcliffe and assume they can half-arse the next QLD club. If they do it'll underperform and never reach potential.

Fans love tradition and history of their clubs. The NRL cannot create a new franchise or joint-venture or try to shoe-horn in a Sydney club. It won't work in QLD.

If we're moving to a national academy system then I think it's a great opportunity to save some BRL history and promote Easts or Ipswich directly into the NRL. No changes to names, colours or mascots. Those are the key things to keep, it's the club's identity and it's what resonates with fans.

If it was up to me we'd promote Easts/Brisbane Tigers, they're the richest club not in the NRL and are one of the most famous BRL clubs. It'd also mean we'd have representation of the BRL across all eras: A foundation club (Tigers), a 'new' post-war club (Redcliffe), the post-Origin superclub in the Broncos and the two modern franchises in NQ and the GC.

To do this we'd need to undo one of the great travesties in our game and allow Wests Tigers to finally de-merge.

We'd have Wests Magpies taking back their name and playing in their famous B&W Magpies strip. The JV is Magpies in all but name anyway. This way they can take total control of their own future without any of the infighting. It'd resurrect a 'dead' club from the ashes of that horrible merger. Wests would have direction and an actual identity again.

The Balmain fans can jump onboard a professionally run club called the Tigers who actually wear the famous orange & black jersey, that is still worn everywhere by fans except on the field where it belongs. While the Balmain club is basically gone these days at least this way fans can still see the Tigers play half a dozen games in Sydney every year. When in Sydney the Brisbane Tigers can base themselves out of Leichhardt and fans can watch the captain's run.

By my reckoning we'd be resurrecting three traditional clubs each with century old histories and rivalries; instead hiding two of them behind an ugly/broken merger with no identity, no soul and no future, and a third left to wither and die as the sport consolidates at the top level.

It would be a sea-change moment for RL in Australia and show the the last scars of the SL War have finally been healed.
 

flippikat

First Grade
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5,593
If it was up to me we'd promote Easts/Brisbane Tigers, they're the richest club not in the NRL and are one of the most famous BRL clubs. It'd also mean we'd have representation of the BRL across all eras: A foundation club (Tigers), a 'new' post-war club (Redcliffe), the post-Origin superclub in the Broncos and the two modern franchises in NQ and the GC.

To do this we'd need to undo one of the great travesties in our game and allow Wests Tigers to finally de-merge.
Your scenario is assuming several parties would buy into it, which is a stretch.

While there may be some appeal to the Magpies majority-owners of Wests Tigers to rebrand as Magpies, can they unilaterally dump the Balmain faction? (I ask that because there's surely no way the Tigers contingent would willingly jump basically into an abyss)

Would the NRL even entertain such a rebrand?

Would Brisbane Easts seriously want to have anything to do with a shell of an old Sydney club?

Plus, if Brisbane Easts Tigers are the next Brisbane NRL team, where does that leave the much-discussed & Ipswich/Western Corridor prospects for an NRL team of their own?
 

cinders7

Juniors
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87
Your scenario is assuming several parties would buy into it, which is a stretch.

While there may be some appeal to the Magpies majority-owners of Wests Tigers to rebrand as Magpies, can they unilaterally dump the Balmain faction? (I ask that because there's surely no way the Tigers contingent would willingly jump basically into an abyss)

Would the NRL even entertain such a rebrand?

Would Brisbane Easts seriously want to have anything to do with a shell of an old Sydney club?

Plus, if Brisbane Easts Tigers are the next Brisbane NRL team, where does that leave the much-discussed & Ipswich/Western Corridor prospects for an NRL team of their own?

We've done it before with the Northern Eagles license reverting to Manly.

That's all this would be, WT reverting to the club that holds the license, and then the following season the Brisbane Tigers enter the comp.

It'd ultimately be simpler than the proposal for 'The Jets'.
Playing in Green&White in QLD and Royal Blue in NSW, with all of it bankrolled by Easts Tigers who have no identity to show for their money at all. It's what Ikin proposed and it'd be a mess of conflicting interests.

To me the options are night and day. Magpies back, Tigers back, BRL history restored vs the WT infighting continuing forever and now we also have a similar WT mess in BNE.
 

titoelcolombiano

First Grade
Messages
7,147
We've done it before with the Northern Eagles license reverting to Manly.

That's all this would be, WT reverting to the club that holds the license, and then the following season the Brisbane Tigers enter the comp.

It'd ultimately be simpler than the proposal for 'The Jets'.
Playing in Green&White in QLD and Royal Blue in NSW, with all of it bankrolled by Easts Tigers who have no identity to show for their money at all. It's what Ikin proposed and it'd be a mess of conflicting interests.

To me the options are night and day. Magpies back, Tigers back, BRL history restored vs the WT infighting continuing forever and now we also have a similar WT mess in BNE.
I actually don't mind this idea, Brisbane Easts used the Balmain jersey and logo for years and even today is much closer to it than the Wests Tigers.

Wests Magpies back at Campbeltown
Brisbane Tigers could come in and represent SEQ's western corridor (which is the area any new QLD team must represent) and use the Wests Tigers name (completely owned by Brisbane Tigers though)

Surely the Balmain jersey, logo and name would get some traction with Tigers fans in Sydney. And won't feel foreign to Brisbane Tigers people.

The one trick with this move would be getting the people of Ipswich and the West to buy into the Tigers brand.
 

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