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Tim Donnelly No.10

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Jackal Dog said:
Donnelly just doesn't have it IMO last night proved it yet again, he is a very good club player but seems unable to make the step up to the next level (he wouldn't be the first either) hopefully Norton-Knight will be given a shot at 5/8 next week.

I feel sorry for Donnelly. As Timbo said he has been mis treated by the Waratahs in the past and it would be bloody hard to come back play with confidence after that.

He's got tremendous potential and he's a good little defender. I hope he comes good soon!!!
 

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I feel sorry for Donnelly. As Timbo said he has been mis treated by the Waratahs in the past and it would be bloody hard to come back play with confidence after that.

He's got tremendous potential and he's a good little defender. I hope he comes good soon!!!

He just cannot kick and NSW will be in big trouble if he remains at no.10
 

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Very average game by Donnelly last night, the Stormers shut him down with ease luckily Ewen Mckenzie saw this and brought on Halanghu, him and Norton-Knight won the game for us.
 

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It will be interesting seeing the team next week. I assume Sailor will be back and Hewat slotting back into fullback. That means Norton Knight would be benched or Halanghu on the bench. I think Donnelly might be dropped from the 22.
 

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It will be interesting seeing the team next week. I assume Sailor will be back and Hewat slotting back into fullback. That means Norton Knight would be benched or Halanghu on the bench. I think Donnelly might be dropped from the 22.

Doubt it. Norton-Knight will stay at fullback for a while yet. Although he can play fly half he is still raw in that position. When Rogers returns, Rogers will asume the no10 spot and Norton-Knight will stay at fullback.
 
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http://foxsports.news.com.au/story/0,8659,18203451-5002381,00.htmlNEW South Wales Waratahs coach Ewen McKenzie last night refused to send for Mat Rogers to cure his five-eighth woes as his side heads for the South African high veldt with an unbeaten start in Super 14.



McKenzie had to replace error-riddled Tim Donnelly as pivot against the Stormers yesterday, just 25 minutes into a Cape Town clash the Waratahs won 32-26.

Rookie Daniel Halangahu took over in the playmaking role as the Tahs recovered from a 20-7 deficit for a second win on the road.

But as the Waratahs prepare for the rugged Bulls, who have the tournament's most intimidating pack, at altitude in Pretoria, where a kicking game will be vital, McKenzie is in three minds over who to play at No.10 this weekend.

While McKenzie has not ruled out another chance for Donnelly, it's unlikely he'll continue with a compact five-eighth whose kicking game fell to pieces and whose glut of blunders indirectly led to the Stormers' first 20 points.

"It wasn't one of his finest hours," McKenzie said. "At the time we made the change the game seemed to be slipping away. It's one of those decisions you have to make."

Halangahu impressed but has yet to start at this level, while Sam Norton-Knight offers perhaps the most appealing alternative after his outstanding man-of-the-match performance at full back.



Rogers will not be considered as he works his way back into training in Sydney after the death of his father Steve.



"He's not ready yet," McKenzie said.

"Mat's got a bit of an issue with a neck problem too, so he's had no contact training at this stage."

Norton-Knight impressed with a polished long kicking game against the Stormers and scored one of the two tries in the last 10 minutes - Halangahu grabbed the other - that hauled the Waratahs into the lead for the first time.

It was a timely display from Norton-Knight, who was initially named on the bench but received a call-up to the starting side when Australia winger Wendell Sailor failed a fitness test the day before the match.

Peter Hewat was shifted from full back to the wing, creating the vacancy for Norton-Knight. But if Sailor recovers for the Bulls clash, goalkicker Hewat could return to No.15 and Norton-Knight could be accommodated in the troublesome No.10 slot.

One area where the Waratahs are not struggling is in the back row.

Blindside flanker Rocky Elsom was superb against the Stormers, relishing several one-on-one clashes with South Africa back row star Schalk Burger.

Second-row forward Dan Vickerman was equally impressive as the Waratahs lineout, with several crucial steals, kept them in touch during a first half that in every other area went pear-shaped for the tourists.

"I can't say enough good things about the work Dan has done in the lineouts for us," McKenzie said.

"(After losing Justin Harrison) he's been learning more about the role, and he's been coaching and mentoring others, too.

"We saw the fruits of that when we took four or five of their lineouts to keep even more heat off in the first 40 minutes.

"The lineout kept us in the game and Sam Norton-Knight kept us at the right end of the field to help defuse the pressure."

The Waratahs conceded two tries in the first 19 minutes, scored one through skipper Chris Whitaker after flanker Phil Waugh charged down a clearing kick, and went to the break behind 20-10.

It took a 30-metre solo effort from centre Morgan Turinui to bring the Tahs back into striking range, with his try and Hewat's conversion leaving the Waratahs trailing 23-20. Replacement halfback Brett Sheehan produced a cross-field run for Halangahu to stroll over and a stolen lineout led to the sealer from Norton-Knight in the 74th minute.
 

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Doubt it. Norton-Knight will stay at fullback for a while yet. Although he can play fly half he is still raw in that position. When Rogers returns, Rogers will asume the no10 spot and Norton-Knight will stay at fullback.

Lol and what do they do with Sailor, Hewat and Tuqiri? Clearly all 3 need to be in the side unless Rogers wants to goal kick again.
 

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I hope Donnelly gets one more chance. He was shocking the other night, but was apparently really crook.
 

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Donnelly always has shockers. If he was so good he would have fixed the Tahs 5/8 worries. He had all of last season to get the spot. First round this season his kicking went wayward and then 2nd match totally wayward.
 

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aussies1st said:
Lol and what do they do with Sailor, Hewat and Tuqiri? Clearly all 3 need to be in the side unless Rogers wants to goal kick again.

Tuqiri plays outside centre anyway! Not sure how it is a problem. Have a side like this

15: Norton-Knight
14: Sailor
13: Tuqiri
12: TBA
11: Hewat
10: Rogers
9: TBA

You can fit them all in the same side!
 

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Sailor may well have done McKenzie a favour anyways..... :lol:

Norton-Knight looks the logical choice - Rogers needs to be in a position that takes less toil on his body.
 

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lockyno1 said:
Tuqiri plays outside centre anyway! Not sure how it is a problem. Have a side like this

15: Norton-Knight
14: Sailor
13: Tuqiri
12: TBA
11: Hewat
10: Rogers
9: TBA

You can fit them all in the same side!

Won't happen. Turini is a definite and Berne has impressed Ewen so hes 12.
 

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