Time for a new jersey?

[dragondad]

I do find it a little odd that you have followed the Saints for 55 years yet the first topic of discussion you raise is the phasing out of the Red V. That should be dear to your heart.

 

[_Johnsy]

IMO we currently have the 2 ideal jerseys, I cannot fatom wht we would evr change what we currently use.

Main

Alternate

 

[grouch]

Extremely dumb. Willl never change. Tossco

 

[R&WTILLIDIE]

You've been following them for 55 years and you want to change the jersey? That'll do me

 

[God-King Dean]

Everyday I'm trollolololololin......

 

[Cooper-Man]

I read a little while back that there was some conjecture over how many premierships we have won, is it 16 for the St George side of the merger & 1 for the Illawarra side, or is it just 1 for the St George Illawarra era. Firstly I wore the St George jersey with pride during the mid 70's in the lower grades & I am still proud that todays side plays in the same colours as I did, but over time I am starting to believe that it may be time to unite both sides with their own jersey. Illawarra would not be in the competition today if it hadn't been for St George bailing them out financially, but St George would of found it difficult as a stand alone club & may have had to re - look at the merger with the Roosters or another club further down the track. To say we were lucky that both St George & the Illawarra executives had the foresight to merge is an understatement of huge proportions, if we take a look at how many Illawarra juniors have played for the joint venture compared to how many St George juniors have played, the difference would be staggering & weigh heavily on the Illawarra side. The way I see it is that we have won 1 premiership with many more to come, so why not design another jersey? it's not that we would have to change the colour, & myself as a fanatical St George supporter would feel just as proud to support it. If I have offended anyone from both sides of the fence I am sorry, but after 10 plus years of playing together there should'nt be a fence.

This SHIT thread wins the title of WORST THREAD EVER. :x

Go support the WTF tigers. They have had 15 jerseys since they merged.

 

[trudge]

IMO we currently have the 2 ideal jerseys, I cannot fatom wht we would evr change what we currently use.

Main

Wrong collar.

 

[Father Ted]

IMO we currently have the 2 ideal jerseys, I cannot fatom wht we would evr change what we currently use.

Main

Wrong collar.

Yep prefer the white collar and hooped socks

 

[gypsy]

Wrong sponsor as well.

Worst thread ever, it will never change, and it never should.
Red V is a part of me. Don't let the door hit you on the way out!

 

[Dr Fruitbasket Returns]

No, only the Red V will be tolerated. Nice first post Rossco, but the fan backlash against any design change would make it impossible. And there's already been attempts to trick us out of our first 15 Premierships and you can see how that's panned out. Doust would be lynched if he said we'd only won one comp and any club CEO who followed that line in the future would be tossed at their first election. We've won 16 and all 16 of them belong to the Steeler side of the JV as much as to the St George side.

I don't know or care how many Premierships Wests, Balmain or Wests Tigers have won as individual entities, but they now all belong equally to the Wests Tigers JV. And the history of the JV goes back to 1908. It's a history they've earned.

It's always tempting to try and bring marketing language and ideas into team support, but it simply doesn't translate seamlessly. We don't relate to a team like we relate to a product and we don't accept changes to our team identity in the way that we accept changes to product design or packaging. The emotional depth and resonance of the relationships are on entirely different levels.

I seem to remember that back in 1995 it was "inevitable" that St George and Easts would become a hybrid wearing red, white and blue. We all know how that panned out. It was "inevitable that Super League would smash the NRL and all of us Saints supporters would simply move across to the Sharks "brand". That didn't work either.

We will never accept any form of accommodation with the Scum that involves any dilution of our history, any additional colour to the red and white palette or any change to our name. Rationally, we are the bigger club and there's no logic to them even existing. Rationally, they should either be collapsed into St George Illawarra and forgotten about or re-located to the Central Coast, Perth or Brisbane.

But the game runs on emotional currents rather than rational currents and the Scum will stick around as the Scum, playing out of Scum Park, until they go broke. Their twelve diehard supporters wouldn't have it any other way and we can only respect them for their passion and commitment.

It's the sort of passion and commitment we share as supporters of this club. Though there are significantly more than twelve of us.

 

[Willow]

my favorite player of all time was Graham Langlands

It's spelt Graeme Langlands.

Favourite player of all time eh?

Everyday I'm trollolololololin......

Haha! It'd be nice if they could come up with some new material.

 

[Willow]

Hi all, I am new to the forum & I am looking forward to making new friends on line. I have supported the Dragons now for 55 years of my life, & like most of you I have been through the great times & the not so great times as well, but my support for this great club or two great clubs as it is today has never wained. I look forward to being a part of your forum & contribute in some way with the small amount of knowledge I have gained over 55 years.:?

Have a look at Dell's jersey. And when the advert comes on TV, have a closer look at the badge.

 

[Mr Red]

change the jersey?:shock::shock::shock:

i just choked on my cereal..

the RED V brand and current emblem is world recognised..

 

[big pat]

has rossco heard of, red 'v' is apart of me.

 

[gypsy]

I wonder what his next topic for discussion will be....
Nightingale should be axed from first grade?

 

[Dragons1921]

I read a little while back that there was some conjecture over how many premierships we have won, is it 16 for the St George side of the merger & 1 for the Illawarra side, or is it just 1 for the St George Illawarra era. Firstly I wore the St George jersey with pride during the mid 70's in the lower grades & I am still proud that todays side plays in the same colours as I did, but over time I am starting to believe that it may be time to unite both sides with their own jersey. Illawarra would not be in the competition today if it hadn't been for St George bailing them out financially, but St George would of found it difficult as a stand alone club & may have had to re - look at the merger with the Roosters or another club further down the track. To say we were lucky that both St George & the Illawarra executives had the foresight to merge is an understatement of huge proportions, if we take a look at how many Illawarra juniors have played for the joint venture compared to how many St George juniors have played, the difference would be staggering & weigh heavily on the Illawarra side. The way I see it is that we have won 1 premiership with many more to come, so why not design another jersey? it's not that we would have to change the colour, & myself as a fanatical St George supporter would feel just as proud to support it. If I have offended anyone from both sides of the fence I am sorry, but after 10 plus years of playing together there should'nt be a fence.

Who said the St George side of the venture wouldn't survive on its own? Have a look at the following link: http://www.steelers.com.au/PDF/Annual-Financial-Report.pdf Doesn't look like much of a dependence there. Juniors, doesn't guarantee success. The salary cap sees to that. Manly won with 2 Wollongong boys, Why aren't they at the Dragons? Would you say that Young and Morris would have been Dragons anyway? We have won 16 premierships.

I did say sorry if it offends, I knew it would be a thread that would be challenged & you have the right to voice your opinions & I would fight along side you to defend those rights, but sooner or later the change will come. As for who do I support, I support St George Illawarra Dragons, not one or the other.

Corporations spend millions upon millions of dollars on brand identification. The whole membership drive is around the Red V branding. You see a flag with a simple red V on it and you know it represents the Dragons. In rugby league circles it's the most recognised brand. Tossing it would be entirely counter productive.

Trudge , I agree that in time the Sharks will become a third member of the St George Illawarra merger, I think it will happen latter than sooner but I feel as Rugby League grows in team numbers the Sydney clubs will be squeezed into more amalgamations. I also remember the part Illawarra played in our history before 82 - 98, my favorite player of all time was Graham Langlands an Illawarra junior & Immortal. All are excellent points..

Impossible. Why would we want to inherit the sharks debt? Geographically with the Sharks being in a pocket means there is no need to merge.

Thanks jOnesy, in any design the big red V would more than likely be retained to mark the St George heritage & what you say is correct it is a damn good brand. But as I said regardless of how we feel, it is inevitable that change will happen, we are no longer a stand alone club & I am sure that the Illawarra club would feel their heritage is as important as ours regardless of the difference in years. but for what its worth I have been wrong before & I think that any change will be sometime off.

The St George Dragons won almost all there premierships when they represented the Illawarra by proxy. That history is represented by the Red V. The Illawarra carved out its own identity in 1982, but it doesn't come with much of a legacy. Regardless, this identity has been recognised and replaced the blood 'n bandages as the alternate strip. More importantly the games are divided up between 2 locations. This is where the balance lies.

 

[Willow]

Who said the St George side of the venture wouldn't survive on its own? Have a look at the following link: http://www.steelers.com.au/PDF/Annual-Financial-Report.pdf Doesn't look like much of a dependence there. Juniors, doesn't guarantee success. The salary cap sees to that. Manly won with 2 Wollongong boys, Why aren't they at the Dragons? Would you say that Young and Morris would have been Dragons anyway? We have won 16 premierships.

Corporations spend millions upon millions of dollars on brand identification. The whole membership drive is around the Red V branding. You see a flag with a simple red V on it and you know it represents the Dragons. In rugby league circles it's the most recognised brand. Tossing it would be entirely counter productive.

Impossible. Why would we want to inherit the sharks debt? Geographically with the Sharks being in a pocket means there is no need to merge.

The St George Dragons won almost all there premierships when they represented the Illawarra by proxy. That history is represented by the Red V. The Illawarra carved out its own identity in 1982, but it doesn't come with much of a legacy. Regardless, this identity has been recognised and replaced the blood 'n bandages as the alternate strip. More importantly the games are divided up between 2 locations. This is where the balance lies.

There you go Rosscotroll, you've just been put through the blender and sent down the s-bend. Come back in another 55 years when you've learnt how to spell Changa's name.

Well said Dragons1921.

 

[Father Ted]

Might be alone here But I don't want anything to do with the Sharks or the Shire ever. The good money is they feel the same way

 

[big pat]

Might be alone here But I don't want anything to do with the Sharks or the Shire ever. The good money is they feel the same way

you'll never be alone on that topic padre.

 

[dragonsman4eva]

Are you serious??? The red v is the most prestigious and recognised brands in rugby league. Since I was young my dad always said we go for the team with the big red v. The Illawarra jersey gets its fair share throughout the year, probably too much IMO. I love that our main jersey doesnt change and the club isnt just grabbing cash off the fans with a different home jersey every year, its generally the same other than the sponsors. We have won 16 premierships in the red v jersey and if we ever turned up on grand final day wearing the steelers colours I would walk away.