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Time to sin bin spear tackles?

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Lifting tackles should be banned, regardless of whether they "go past the horizontal" or whatever other garbage guidelines the NRL try to justify them with...

As has been acknowledged on here already, lifting tackles have the potential to get out of control, accidents happen and we have already seen the damage that can be done to someone for the rest of their life. Therefore, if the starting point of the action that results in a player being confiend to a wheelchair for life is "lifting them in a tackle" then quite simply, BAN LIFTING IN TACKLES. It doesn't need to be your textbook 90 degree to the turf speer tackle that can inflict the sort of damage I'm talking about as we saw what happened last year...
 
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Merrin's tackle was a flat out send off last night. Malice involved for sure. And beau Scott'se effort was just stupid. You could tell he stopped and thought about it and still went ahead with it. Combined with Tamous brainsnap I can't help but think nsw got caught up in acting tough rather than playing footy. Really sucks as a blues fan.
 
TheDMC

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Wow. That's low.

On topic. Ideally they should, but it's not exactly a black and white thing.

Often, when players are put into that position, it's not always careless, it's usually a something mistimed, a lack of communication with other players in the tackle, etc etc.

With high shots and swinging arms, it's pretty easy to detect malice in it. Where there is malice, it should be a sin bin. But times when a lazy arm is stuck out, or the player with the ball ducks, or it slides off the shoulder, etc etc, a sin bin is really not warranted.
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Bollocks. Red card or sin bin for someone being lifted & tipped over is pretty black n white = f**ken dangerous = red card. Malice or no malice, who cares. If malice they get many more weeks, upon review. You will be amazed how quickly careless becomes careful.

A punch attempt but miss = 10 in bin. A punch that connects = red card.

NRL is lame in this regard.

It would take a knifing and two grenades before a player is sinbinned. In fact I don't think there is even a sin binnable offence at the moment. What a crock.

I despise NRL rules and refereeing so much more than any other sport I follow, and I follow a lot.
 
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BunniesMan

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Like it or not the automatic sin bins for punches have basically eliminated them. Nobody would risk lifting a leg if they knew they'd get binned.
 
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wests1 said:
Merrin's tackle was a flat out send off last night. Malice involved for sure. And beau Scott'se effort was just stupid. You could tell he stopped and thought about it and still went ahead with it. Combined with Tamous brainsnap I can't help but think nsw got caught up in acting tough rather than playing footy. Really sucks as a blues fan.
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Congratulations on being a fan with the ability to objectively judge a game of football, you're a very rare breed (and I say that for any fan, not just NSW).

The Beau Scott tackle was dumb beyond measure. 12-2 down with all the momentum the other way in front of a baying crowd, and you want to tip the QLD captain up way, way after the kick has gone? Honestly when is that not a penalty? It was just brainless.

I bet we could go back on old threads and see a sentiment like 'it'll take a major injury to cause change in spear tackles'. Hey, we had one - and absolutely nothing was done. Zero. Corey Parker could've easily ended up on his neck last night, and all we get is a report. No bin, no nothing. What did Merrin think he was achieving by placing his hands between Parker's legs (yes I know it happens but it shouldn't).

Time to get serious on it, me thinks - and not as a knee-jerk. Should've happened years ago. Before the shoulder charge.
 
Perth Red

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It's a good job he didn't tuck his head in!

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I simply cant understand the NRL's reluctance to get this out of the game.
 
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Forget the sin bin... any lifting tackle/intentional foul play should come with a fine and the money pooled to help pay costs for those that suffer injuries due to foul play.

How many players would lift someone if they knew the penalty for a lifting tackle was $10k each time.
 
Allo

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When ever I see a spear tackle, only to hear Gus or some other commentator say there was nothing in it, I cringe. Doesn't matter if the player gets straight up or not. It's like their taking into account if the player is hurt or not. This is why the spear tackle hasn't been stamped out of the game.
Until the spear tackle is a send off and hefty time out of the season no matter if the player is hurt or not, it'll stay in the game. If so, it'll take another serious injury the way the NRL is going.
 
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It should be a sending off not a sin bin the biggest problem with the game in the past decade is that the send off and sin bin have been eliminated from the game.

Using both properly would have seen the elimination of

Wrestling holds
Constant professional fouls
Spear Tackles
Shoulder charges making contact with the head.

It would have made the game better and more exciting but unfortunately we do stupid things like banning shoulder charges rather than look at the real problem which is the referee's not using sin bins and sending offs properly.
 
Perth Red

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In SL Tamaou would have walked for a clenched fist straight arm and Merrin would have been binned. For a code that banned a punch and a shoulder charge to clean its image and make the game safer there seems a massive disconnect by the NRL in this. Smith should be on the phone to the ref people asking wtf is going on!
 
Captain Apollo

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On a side note can we stop talking about "red cards" in relation to this. We don't have that crap in our game. Leave that to soccer. Thank you.
 
Mr. Sharky

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Incorrect said:
Lifting tackles should be banned, regardless of whether they "go past the horizontal" or whatever other garbage guidelines the NRL try to justify them with...

As has been acknowledged on here already, lifting tackles have the potential to get out of control, accidents happen and we have already seen the damage that can be done to someone for the rest of their life. Therefore, if the starting point of the action that results in a player being confiend to a wheelchair for life is "lifting them in a tackle" then quite simply, BAN LIFTING IN TACKLES. It doesn't need to be your textbook 90 degree to the turf speer tackle that can inflict the sort of damage I'm talking about as we saw what happened last year...
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Post of the year. Well said.
 
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Perth Red said:
It's a good job he didn't tuck his head in!

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I simply cant understand the NRL's reluctance to get this out of the game.
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yeah, you cant compare alex mckinnions tackle to this one. alex had two props on his upper body driving his head into the turf, this was just a pick him up and drop him on his head tackle. still a sickening tackle though.

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4 matches, wow just wow. Somebody ask Alex how he feels.
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As a Parramatta fan im f**king furious. Junior Paulo sits out 9 weeks for a throw down tackle in which Ballin lands on his head. 9 weeks..

and Merrin gets 4 for that? eat me up ladies and gents, because im f**king done like dinner.
 
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