Todd Greenberg has got to go!

[Canard]

I think killing half the comp and just expecting the fans to flock to old rivals was a huge mistake.

They should have removed one more team and given their place to the NSWRL City team; an old and storied team, but one that these fans dont instinctively hate. Like NSW Blues or the Roos, its a team these fans have united behind in the past and can do again.

Expecting old rivals to just swallow these areas was always dumb...

Wacky idea no.7777

 

[T-Boon]

They should have removed one more team and given their place to the NSWRL City team; an old and storied team, but one that these fans dont instinctively hate. Like NSW Blues or the Roos, its a team these fans have united behind in the past and can do again.

I am a country boy so I always hated the city team. But that city jersey was nice. I like the idea of keeping it alive. I also like the idea of having a fall back club that everyone in Sydney can support that does not have a history against ones own club.

One cool way to do this would be to enter "NSW City" or "Sydney City" (with that strip) in the Queensland cup. In return Queensland can enter a team ("Brisbane Firsts" or whoever) in the NSW cup. Make both clubs independent of the NRL i.e. not feeder clubs, make them semi professional, attract reserve graders and old fading stars who only want to train twice a week and escape the NRL fishbowl.

They would feed off the state based hatred and at no point do they play against your own team except potentially in the national GF. These two clubs would probably become the biggest semi pro teams in the world.

Oh and Todd Greenberg must go.

 

[Life's Good]

I am a country boy so I always hated the city team. But that city jersey was nice. I like the idea of keeping it alive. I also like the idea of having a fall back club that everyone in Sydney can support that does not have a history against ones own club.

One cool way to do this would be to enter "NSW City" or "Sydney City" (with that strip) in the Queensland cup. In return Queensland can enter a team ("Brisbane Firsts" or whoever) in the NSW cup. Make both clubs independent of the NRL i.e. not feeder clubs, make them semi professional, attract reserve graders and old fading stars who only want to train twice a week and escape the NRL fishbowl.

They would feed off the state based hatred and at no point do they play against your own team except potentially in the national GF. These two clubs would probably become the biggest semi pro teams in the world.

Oh and Todd Greenberg must go.

Shortest months holiday in history.

 

[Stallion]

Playing on s Sunday is a joke as you miss out supporting your in the pro league.

? Not sure what you're saying. But if you are agreeing that playing senior local footy on a Sunday is a joke you are making sense. Local seniors playing on the Sunday opens up so many issues with respects to treating injuries, player recovery and social relevance along with the many players that are faced with fronting up for work on the Monday. If any code should be played on Saturdays on a local perspective it has to be rugby league. The other codes are nowhere near as physical therefore recovery is not as big an issue for most players. Mind you other codes(RU ) thrive in the fact they play on Saturdays whilst many local rugby league clubs take the clearly non player friendly option of playing on Sundays. The Sunday game also negatively impacts after match functions as instead of a packed after game venue most clubs get a trickle of fans back to a venue on a Sunday as compared to the more socially appealing Saturday. Its an important issue for local footy. You will find it effects junior flow on to the senior club as well.

 

[BuffaloRules]

There are more NRL games on Saturdays than Sundays...

Teddy must have been three bottles of red in when he posted that...

 

[Stormwarrior82]

Well pointed out. Yet we continue to have these reckless denials that rugby league has not been negatively impacted? The game has been undeniably weakened in Australias largest city! This purely related to eliminating and changing longtime clubs , poor development work , poor ticket pricing and poor game scheduling times . Those combinations have a significant effect even on a code as resilient and as attractive as rugby-league.

If that is the case, wouldn’t that make it more of a reason not to have the bears back? They had the central coast and neglected it and now the roosters have it. And they can’t even maintain there own north Sydney area with all the money you keep saying they have. At least in Perth they are showing increases across the board. That’s how you force the Nrls hand and get a team. Not by losing ground to other codes.

Do you honestly think having more teams in Sydney will help grow the Nrl more than say brisbane 2/Perth?

 

[Perth Red]

The Northern Suburbs of Sydney is completely soccer and afl since tge demise of the Bears. From North Sydney right up to the Pacific Hwy to Berowra the vast majority of kids have been turned off league. Thats a pretty big population right there lost to the game because the nrl no longer competes there.

It does have an impact albeit hard to quantify.

How does afl and soccer compete there when neither of them have teams based in NS? Having 5 clubs within 40kms not enough to get the kids interested in nrl?

 

[Stallion]

If that is the case, wouldn’t that make it more of a reason not to have the bears back? They had the central coast and neglected it and now the roosters have it. And they can’t even maintain there own north Sydney area with all the money you keep saying they have. At least in Perth they are showing increases across the board. That’s how you force the Nrls hand and get a team. Not by losing ground to other codes.

Do you honestly think having more teams in Sydney will help grow the Nrl more than say brisbane 2/Perth?

Having both would be the best outcome. Consolidation in Sydney and expansion with Brisbane 2 and WA.

 

[Stormwarrior82]

the Nrl has been saying for a few years now that the next step is expansion and elevation of the qcup/nswrl cup comps. By having basically 2 conferences that span the length of the country that creates a natural rivalry that supports the larger Nrl clubs is a perfect setup in my opinion.

 

[Stallion]

How does afl and soccer compete there when neither of them have teams based in NS? Having 5 clubs within 40kms not enough to get the kids interested in nrl?

Theirs a very tangible thing called local rivalries that help!

 

[Stormwarrior82]

Having both would be the best outcome. Consolidation in Sydney and expansion with Brisbane 2 and WA.

It would seem the consolidation is already happening in Sydney.

What do you think should happen to a Sydney team now if in the next 5 yrs they were to run out of money?

 

[Hello, I'm The Doctor]

Wacky idea no.7777

Yep, obviously a terrible idea. Never worked before....

You remember that old Brisbane Broncos? smallest team in the NSWRL, didnt even last a year. Newcastle Knight? No one around Newcastle would even remember that name.

NQLD Cowboys, NZ Warriors, Canberra Raiders. Failure after failure after failure. Im surprised i even remember those old extinct names.

Obviously these "City united" teams never, ever, ever work.....

 

[Cherry_poppins]

It would seem the consolidation is already happening in Sydney.

What do you think should happen to a Sydney team now if in the next 5 yrs they were to run out of money?

Sydney teams have history

Newcastle has a history of being druggos or cheats,they should have been let go
Gold coast has a history of failure both on and off the field,should have been let go

Other than Parramatta every sydney club has been relevant through the decades

Rabbitohs for repeated spoons,useful for the toofless fans who must eat soup only
Tigers for being loved by virtually everyone who has less than 3 braincells
Manly for premiership success no less than once a decade since the 70s
merkinerberry for being dogs,literally and figuratively,also proto-melbourne
Cronulla for being failures until up to a few years ago
Penrith for thinking a park is a stadium
Saints for just being saints,allowing better teams to win on an annual basis
Last but certainly not least the roosters,who have a bottomless broncos like cap

Letting go one of these pillars of the community would be an absolute travesty after
floating 2 shit clubs like Newcastle and the Gold Coast

 

[Stallion]

It would seem the consolidation is already happening in Sydney.

What do you think should happen to a Sydney team now if in the next 5 yrs they were to run out of money?

I would suggest that in Sydney we have seen a diluting/weakening of the code! How does that fit into your panacea!?

 

[Stormwarrior82]

I would suggest that in Sydney we have seen a diluting/weakening of the code! How does that fit into your panacea!?

Do you normally answer a question with a Question? What do you think should happen if a Sydney Nrl team goes bankrupt in the next 5yrs?

 

[Stormwarrior82]

I would suggest that in Sydney we have seen a diluting/weakening of the code! How does that fit into your panacea!?

I can accept that opinion. But is it because of not enough teams in Sydney? Lol please.

Or more the fact that clubs in general haven’t made the effort to engage there rugby league fan base?

 

[Stallion]

Do you normally answer a question with a Question? What do you think should happen if a Sydney Nrl team goes bankrupt in the next 5yrs?

Support it or have a Sydney only promotion and relegation system whereby lost clubs like the Bears could position themselves for re entry and the struggling club is given a hope to re enter the top.flight into the future. Get that one up ya! Its better than weakening the code in Australias largest city!

 

[Haffa]

Playing on s Sunday is a joke as you miss out supporting your in the pro league.

What?

 

[Stallion]

I can accept that opinion. But is it because of not enough teams in Sydney? Lol please.

Or more the fact that clubs in general haven’t made the effort to engage there rugby league fan base?

These clubs need to develop the code much better. They have lazily and poorly targeted development for decades in a number of Sydney areas. Penrith has been the only decent club and perhaps Cronulla Sutherland in recent years. Otherwise the clubs have let development in juniors down in a big way.
And laugh at the 8.5 'established' Sydney clubs at the game's peril. The AFL is having a bigger laugh with ten very recognizable and established clubs in Melbourne with a population of one million less than Sydney! You go figure!? One comp is wisely sticking with a strength and the other is throwing its advantage away!

 

[Stallion]

What?

Thats what I thought! The Saturday local football recommendation was purely to benefit social relevance, player recovery and being able to get to work on a Monday. The 3 or 4 plus extra hours patronage at the supporters venue after the Saturday game is another financial bonus compared to Sunday as well.