Toopi is the new Tahu

[JJ]

Toopi is a great attacking player we all know that but people don't notice how good he is in defence aswell.

:lol: :lol: ummmm - What colour is the sky in your world????

 

[JJ]

i was annoyed in the post-game comments when they were blabbing on about how toopi has overtaken vagana as the games best centre

needless to say what i was thinking as a parra fan

ridiculous - Toopi is not even close to the best ventre in the wordl!!!

For me - there are three that are very close in that regard - Girdler, Lyon and Vagana. The rest - Tate, Gidley, Gasnier, Senior etc are good players, but not near the three above. Toopi is an opportunist - and a defensive liability

 

[CouldaBeenAnything]

Toopi, like Tahu, is an excellent 'finisher'...to say he is the best complete centre in the game is like saying Mark Tookey is looking slim

 

[**DrAgOnS_gUrL**]

I still think Toopi is a really good centre. He score 3 tries in the test, and came up with a try saving tackle. I didnt see him miss too many tackles, well not any more then wat anyone else on the field missed. I think ur all being a bit hard on him.

 

[MR GEORGE]

toopi is good i think.

 

[Fibroman]

Toopi and Tahu are both very much over rated players. In fact there is a distinct lack of quality centre three quarters going around at the moment. As a big Penrith supporter, I don't even think Girdler is playing at his best this year, and he made the Australian squad.

Daley and Fittler in their younger days were ten times the players that Toopi and Tahu are.

Luke Lewis will be the next sensation in the centres.

 

[Phillips]

Toopi and Tahu are both very much over rated players. In fact there is a distinct lack of quality centre three quarters going around at the moment. As a big Penrith supporter, I don't even think Girdler is playing at his best this year, and he made the Australian squad.

Daley and Fittler in their younger days were ten times the players that Toopi and Tahu are.

Luke Lewis will be the next sensation in the centres.

tahu is over-rated
but toopi is one of the best centres in the game....behind jamie lyon 8)

 

[**DrAgOnS_gUrL**]

Toopi and Tahu are both very much over rated players. In fact there is a distinct lack of quality centre three quarters going around at the moment. As a big Penrith supporter, I don't even think Girdler is playing at his best this year, and he made the Australian squad.

Daley and Fittler in their younger days were ten times the players that Toopi and Tahu are.

Luke Lewis will be the next sensation in the centres.

tahu is over-rated
but toopi is one of the best centres in the game....behind jamie lyon 8)

I think I have to agree. There are probably 2 or 3 infront of him, but I think Toopi is up there. He is a great player and has good attacking skills, and he aint that bad in defence either.

 

[Anonymous]

I challenge yall to get out your RLW or Big League magazines from this year and look at the missed tackles statistics, because Toopi leads the way week in week out, even during the finals series when he was apparently in great form.

I'm not a big fan of RL stats though, you'd be better off just watching the game and concentrating a bit harder. Every week when watching either the Warriors or Kiwis, I freely admit that I am a very biased viewer. When we have the ball I watch us, when the opposition has the ball I watch us defend. I wouldn't expect an Australia who doesn't support the Warriors to have really paid close attention to Toopi's defence or anyone from our teams defence for that matter.

On Saturday Toopi didn't have his worst defensive game (I think Faumuina is probably an even worse defender so it's hard to say who really causes the problems out there), but if you have a tape of the game you will notice that he still missed a lot of tackles. I'll freely admit that scoring 3 tries is a fine effort, but because he had one good opportunists day on attack doesn't suddenly make him a great player.

 

[JJ]

I challenge yall to get out your RLW or Big League magazines from this year and look at the missed tackles statistics, because Toopi leads the way week in week out, even during the finals series when he was apparently in great form.

I'm not a big fan of RL stats though, you'd be better off just watching the game and concentrating a bit harder. Every week when watching either the Warriors or Kiwis, I freely admit that I am a very biased viewer. When we have the ball I watch us, when the opposition has the ball I watch us defend. I wouldn't expect an Australia who doesn't support the Warriors to have really paid close attention to Toopi's defence or anyone from our teams defence for that matter.

On Saturday Toopi didn't have his worst defensive game (I think Faumuina is probably an even worse defender so it's hard to say who really causes the problems out there), but if you have a tape of the game you will notice that he still missed a lot of tackles. I'll freely admit that scoring 3 tries is a fine effort, but because he had one good opportunists day on attack doesn't suddenly make him a great player.

You're making too much sense!

As I said - shortage of quality centres around, the three that stand out for me are Lyon, Girdler and Vagana

 

[**DrAgOnS_gUrL**]

Toopi averaged about 3 missed tackles a game....which isnt really good but there are alot worse out there then. He mite not be the best defensive centre in the comp but i think he is one of the best attacking centres in the comp.

 

[Alba]

Toopi and Tahu are both very much over rated players. In fact there is a distinct lack of quality centre three quarters going around at the moment. As a big Penrith supporter, I don't even think Girdler is playing at his best this year, and he made the Australian squad.

Daley and Fittler in their younger days were ten times the players that Toopi and Tahu are.

Luke Lewis will be the next sensation in the centres.

tahu is over-rated
but toopi is one of the best centres in the game....behind jamie lyon 8)

tahu isnt rated at all....which i think is f-d....him n gids are one of the best centre-wing combos in the league and u cannot say that aint tru cause u would b kidding urself...ok so this year wasnt his best season with dropping the ball but i bet if andrew johns dropped the ball for a few games like that noone would say hes crap...i am so sick of hearing people criticise him for a few mistakes, yes they might've been sum big ones but id like to see all u do betta...he is a talented player and a dynamic tryscorer so wake up!

 

[JJ]

Well, to some extent I agree. Both players are a bit overrated. Toopi is an exciting player, who will get better. IMO he has a couple of fairly fundamental weaknesses
1. Defence
2. Selfishness
3. Poor pass
The good news is all 3 will improve if he works at it. Even those who don't rate him must admit that his support play, and least when there is a scoring chance, is good. very much the opportunist.

Tahu's similar in some ways. I think he's an outstnading talent - speed, strength, step/swerve, offload, and a great work-rate etc.
His obvious weakness is his hands, sometimes at least.

That's how I see it, anyway. If they were at my club, I'd be signing them both up long term

 

[Bobby DIGital]

Toopi only looks like a good attacking player because Lauiti'iti & Faumuina give him a saloon passage down the left hand side. The big boys suck in 2 or 3 defenders each and put Toopi into space. Without those 2 Toopi wouldn't be praised as much as he is.

 

[JJ]

Toopi only looks like a good attacking player because Lauiti'iti & Faumuina give him a saloon passage down the left hand side. The big boys suck in 2 or 3 defenders each and put Toopi into space. Without those 2 Toopi wouldn't be praised as much as he is.

possibly, but they're in his team, and he's playing the right role then isn't he?

I don't like him as a player much, but I'd keep him if I was in Warriors management

 

[aqua_duck]

I think Tahu and Toopi probably have the same strengths and same weaknesses. They're both strongly built, very quick, dynamic footwork, great finishers, but can be indifferent at times. I mean Tahu in particular, his hands can be either brilliant or grease covered.

 

[Sterling]

Well, to some extent I agree. Both players are a bit overrated. Toopi is an exciting player, who will get better. IMO he has a couple of fairly fundamental weaknesses
1. Defence
2. Selfishness
3. Poor pass
The good news is all 3 will improve if he works at it. Even those who don't rate him must admit that his support play, and least when there is a scoring chance, is good. very much the opportunist.

Tahu's similar in some ways. I think he's an outstnading talent - speed, strength, step/swerve, offload, and a great work-rate etc.
His obvious weakness is his hands, sometimes at least.

That's how I see it, anyway. If they were at my club, I'd be signing them both up long term

those 3 points you mentioned are all Jamie Lyons strengths...as well as his attack.
He is without a doubt the no .1 centre in the game.....first to be picked in the NSW side and would have been the first picked for australia if he wasnt injured.

 

[JJ]

those 3 points you mentioned are all Jamie Lyons strengths...as well as his attack.
He is without a doubt the no .1 centre in the game.....first to be picked in the NSW side and would have been the first picked for australia if he wasnt injured.

I agree, to some extent. I've suggested a number of times that the 3 elite centres in the game ae Lyon, Girdler, and Vagana

 

[melon....]

Until he drops 6 or 7 balls in a game, then he;s got nothing on Tahu.

 

[Parra fan]

i was annoyed in the post-game comments when they were blabbing on about how toopi has overtaken vagana as the games best centre

needless to say what i was thinking as a parra fan

you were thinking if we got both of them maybe would could make the 8! :lol:

im a parra fan and i wanna biff ya at st.edwards