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Union after Gasiner

aussies1st

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AUSTRALIA'S struggling Wallabies want Mark Gasnier for their World Cup campaign in France and have launched top-secret $2million plans to sign rugby league's finest centre.

The Sunday Telegraph can today reveal the champion St George Illawarra centre is the top target in Wallabies coach Eddie Jones' recruitment plans and could earn almost $700,000 a season if he switches codes.



And Gasnier's manager George Mimis said last night the Kangaroo and Origin star would seriously consider switching codes when the time was right.

"At this stage Mark is committed to his club's finals campaign and we have not advanced any thoughts on his future beyond his commitments to the Dragons which take him to the end of next season," Mimis said.

"But Mark is a gifted athlete and footballer and we are yet to see the full impact of his abilities.

"Whilst he is dedicated to winning a premiership with the Dragons, he and I have discussed the prospect of playing rugby union at some stage in his career.

"His footwork, strength, speed and agility would translate spectacularly to union. The prospect of also representing Australia across both codes is an attraction as is the international nature of union.

"Mark would be excited at the challenges he would encounter should he decide to make such a move at some point." Gasnier refused to comment last night before going into the match against Wests Tigers.


"In due course, at a more opportune time, he will seriously consider the options available across both codes," Mimis said.


The Wallabies coach confirmed the interest from union. "If he became available we'd certainly be interested in him," Jones said.

But The Sunday Telegraph can reveal Gasnier has already been sounded out about crossing to union when his league contract expires at the end of next season. An ARU source said: "It's just been informal at this stage, nothing formal. But the interest is there. He's right at the top of rugby league in his position and he'd definitely make it."

St George Illawarra chief executive Peter Doust said he was hopeful the club could persuade Gasnier to remain in rugby league.

"Money isn't all that drives Gaz," Doust said.

"We stood our ground with Wigan a few years ago. Wigan offered him a lot more than we could to play in England. But he stayed.

"I'm not surprised union are interested because they don't have any decent players themselves.

"We'll be doing all we can to keep him at the club. We've spoken to him and his manager about extending his contract and those negotiations are ongoing."

The Wallabies could head to the World Cup in 2007 with four former Kangaroos: Lote Tuqiri, Mat Rogers, Wendell Sailor and Gasnier if successful in their latest raid.

Like Tuqiri in 2003, Gasnier would have a full Super 12 and domestic Test season, including the Tri-Nations, to prepare for a World Cup.

The ARU has shown in the past when it wants a high-profile league player, it rarely fails to seal a deal.

Had it backed the NSW Rugby Union's bid to sign Andrew Johns, he too might have been World Cup-bound in a Wallaby jersey.

Tuqiri, Rogers and Sailor were all made offers that salary-capped NRL clubs simply could not match. Sailor was first to defect, on a contract worth $650,000 a season.

Gasnier is viewed as the complete and ready-made product. His trademark acceleration from a standing start, his ability to break the line and try-scoring strike rate is what appeals to Jones.

His footwork and leg-speed are considered rare qualities that ensure he would make a successful transition if he switched codes. Rugby union backs have less space to work in due to the lack of a 10-metre rule and, with defences still on the improve, evasion skills in heavy traffic areas are vital.

The Sunday Telegraph

Even though Gasiner is a good player they have enough backs. This is showing no faith in the youngsters that were blooded during the Tri nations. If they should be poaching anybody it should be props.
 

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He just said in the paper that he'd never heard about it before..
http://www.smh.com.au/news/Sport/Gasnier-plays-down-Waratahs-rumours/2005/09/25/1127586729764.html

Shattered St George Illawarra centre Mark Gasnier has said he had no knowledge of a rumoured $2 million offer from Super 14 rugby club the NSW Waratahs after the Dragons crashed out of the NRL finals hunt.

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"It's the first I have heard of it. At the moment, I couldn't care less about a lot of things. We just lost a final, I don't care that much," Gasnier said.

"I haven't even given it a thought."
 

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"It's the first I have heard of it.
yea, right gasnier.

i,m sure tana and maá cant wait to get aquainted :)
 

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The ARU development Academy-the NRL:lol: .Good luck to Turinui and other up and comers.What does the high performance director of the ARU do for a living FFS ?

Still both sports are pro,and every one has his price,but if it is true it is still a snub,for guys who have slugged their guts out for years to play for the Wallabies.Just like NRL clubs who buy players from other clubs,when they reject their local players.
 
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Here we go again ! I would love to see Gasnier in a Wallabies jerseys .


Where are they going to poach props from ? I suppose they can offer young kiwi props to transfer to Aussie clubs .
There's no rule that they can't play for Australia .
 

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Another indicator of the appalling lack of depth in rugby union. No wonder the "missing link" national club comp has been debated for years.

Not that the APC will have administrators from any other code losing any sleep...

The real problem is that no-one plays the game of union outside of a handful of privileged GPS schools in Sydney and Brisbane...and it shows.
 

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Polynesian Warrior said:
Here we go again ! I would love to see Gasnier in a Wallabies jerseys .


Where are they going to poach props from ? I suppose they can offer young kiwi props to transfer to Aussie clubs .
There's no rule that they can't play for Australia .

I would love to see all the Wallabies backs replaced by Kangaroo backs.Then they might win some games;-) .
Ten years as an "openly" professional code,with the major private schools their own,played in state schools and union still cant develop a national backline,with their own developed players. Union officials keep bragging about their junior development,then again they leave out Hewatt from the Walls says it all really.
Why do you need more props,when you have stars like Dunning.:lol:
 

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Not even the Roos backs could fix up the Wallabies. They wouldn't see enough ball to do their magic.
 
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taipan said:
I would love to see all the Wallabies backs replaced by Kangaroo backs.Then they might win some games;-) .
Ten years as an "openly" professional code,with the major private schools their own,played in state schools and union still cant develop a national backline,with their own developed players. Union officials keep bragging about their junior development,then again they leave out Hewatt from the Walls says it all really.
Why do you need more props,when you have stars like Dunning.:lol:

Yeah Mate ! Just as i like to see the whole Kiwi's backline replace by the All Blacks backs .Then they might win some games;-) .

Ten years of openly professional code = Not bad for a national body who couldn't paid their power bills and only had crowds of just over 10,000 watching their national team .
And been the only national team to win a RWC twice .:p

I don't rate Hewatt at all and apart from the odd interception , he's not that great .


Dunning :lol:
 

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Wrong move ARU, we need forwards especially for the tight five and last time I chekced Gas wasn't a tighthead prop anyway we got a zillion good centres (Mortlock, Rathbone, Turinui, Johasson, Giteua plus Tuqiri and Rogers can also play there, so I don't really see the point in chasing him at the moment.

And if he did come over to Union he would have to bulk up a lot more cause he would be marking up against some of the biggest hitters in world rugby. (the monster that is De Wet Barry *remembers what happened to Steve Kefu, shudders*, Tana Umaga, Brian Lima etc.)
 

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Gasnier would be an absolute senstion playing at outside centre. Hes footwork amd pace would cause alot of problems and his defense would not be a problem. If he signs with the ARU i would think he would be a starter come world cup time
 

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Barely an hour after his arrival for the Australian Tri-Nations camp, Dragons centre Mark Gasnier conceded he would be "mad" to turn his back on a lucrative rugby offer.

Gasnier will reportedly be the target of a $2 million Australian Rugby Union deal - worth about $766,000 a season - once his contract with the Dragons expires at the end of next season.

While still buzzing over his selection for the 23-strong Australian Tri-Nations rugby league squad, Gasnier said the thought of becoming a dual international was "appealing".

"It's very appealing ... I think any international stage is great," he said.

"If you are lucky enough to represent your country at any level for any sport is a great honour - I don't think union would be any different."

Asked if he had considered closing the door on the rugby offer, Gasnier said: "You'd be mad to close it. If they have something to say I am more than happy to listen.

"I've got next year on my contract (and) at this stage that's all I am really focussing on.

"If and when I have to make a decision then I will do it quickly.

"There is no way I would want it to drag out and the team be distracted by anything because of me.

"All I know is that I am hoping to get a spot in an Australian team and hopefully win a Tri-Nations series."

But his Dragons skipper and fellow Tri-Nations squad member Trent Barrett backed Gasnier to stay with league.

"Obviously rugby would be mad if they didn't try and sign him," he said.

"He's a great player, a great athlete, he's still young.

"But ... I'm sure he wants to stay in league.

"I think they are at pretty long odds to get him.

"But they want the best for their game, they want the best players and he is one of them."

But Barrett admitted the Dragons would be hard pressed to keep their all-star team together with several such as Gasnier off contract next season.

Dragons chief executive Peter Doust recently confirmed that the club would have to take "immediate" steps to get under the salary cap due to performance bonuses.

"It would be nice to keep the whole side together but it's going to be hard with the way the salary cap is and the way our young blokes are developing," Barrett said.

"We know that they are going to attract big money from other clubs."

After the Dragons crashed out of the NRL playoff race in the preliminary final, Barrett said: "I'm ready to play. I feel the best I have felt for a long time.

"We didn't go out the way we would have liked, it was really tough to sit there and watch the Tigers win the grand final on the weekend, knowing we could have been there.

"But that is in the past now. This is another challenge and one that I am really looking forward to."

Barrett has played seven tests, but hasn't played for Australia since 2002.

On his Tri-Nations selection chances behind fellow pivot and skipper Darren Lockyer, Barrett said: "Obviously Locky's done a great job over the last year playing five-eighth.

"I certainly won't be hanging myself if I am not chosen at that spot.

"I will be trying really hard to make the 17 somewhere.

"This is an opportunity I haven't been given a chance to do for a few years, so I am pretty determined to make a go of it. I'm not here to make up the numbers."
http://www.leagueunlimited.com/article/articletemp.asp?num=9872

Seems like Gasiner is still considering the idea.
 

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How about sending your fat f**k props, hookers & locks to NZ, SA, France & England to get a lesson or two, the australian club competitions are played at a terrible standard.
 

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As if they would get a start down there. The SA coach even stated that Young wouldn't even make thier 4th grade team.
 

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aussies1st said:
As if they would get a start down there. The SA coach even stated that Young wouldn't even make thier 4th grade team.

Bill Young played club rugby in Dunedin in 1998, played one game for Otago before he got injured. He played alongside some pretty good props for us that year. Carl Hayman made his debut that year and Meeuws and Carl Hoeft were our starting props.
 

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