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Vale Princes Park...

CyberKev

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Princes Park (let’s not call it Optus Oval now that we don’t have to) has never been everyone’s cup of Stockholm Blend tea, but it will forever hold a special place in my heart for being the venue of my first live AFL (then VFL) match.



It was Round 9, 1983, a positively vivid Saturday afternoon in May, in an era that seems almost prehistoric such is the relentless march of time. In those days all games would still be played on the Saturday, unless the Sydney Swans had a home game, in which case the SCG would be utilised on the Sunday. It appears quite surreal to me now that there was a huge debate going on back then about the morality of playing football on a Sunday, but when a week is a long time in football, 22 years is an eternity or more.



Standing room was phased out with moon boots and thin leather ties, but I was wedged among the (predominantly) Carlton-centric crowd, just shy of the “hill” at the scoreboard end. The Hawthorn side that day was considered inferior to a Carlton line-up that was revelling in back-to-back flags, but nevertheless contained names such as: Leigh Matthews, Peter Knights, Michael Tuck, Dermott Brereton (in what was, effectively, his first season), Rodney Eade, Terry Wallace, Russell Greene and Robert Dipierdomenico.



I remember being somewhat awed by Matthews, simply because – even then – he was the biggest name in the game. The Carlton tragics, preened large like prancing peacocks, hid their “admiration” for the great man behind a seemingly ceaseless verbal barrage, many of them looking unselfconsciously ludicrous as they tottered gracelessly on small stilts of empty beer cans. Feeling smaller than my stature and younger than my years, I swayed quietly with the ever ebbing crowd; all but indistinguishable in a sea of denim jeans and duffle coats.



The game itself carries little memory for me, partly because most games blend into one at home and away level, but mainly because memory can be a frail thing across the vastness of decades. Hawthorn got away early to a big lead, only for Carlton to bang a lazy nine through in the second term to regain the lead. The sides were two of the better ones going around at the time, and it was hardly surprising that only 8 points would separate them (in Carlton’s favour) come final siren time.



I remember ambling out of the ground with (Carlton supporting) family members, largely indifferent to the result, as I was happy enough for just having been there. On the journey back to the car, a young Carlton supporter (he couldn’t have been older than 5 or 6) enlightened me on the harsher elements of football as a mode of psychological warfare when he gave me a nice old sledging. Yeah, he was just a kid, but I hate him now as I hated him then and it is the lingering memory of his Damien (Omen’s 1,2,3 &4) like face that returns to me whenever I feel foolishly inclined to sympathise with Carlton when they’re struggling.



While the memory of the game itself was hazy, my recollection of the major sports headline in the Sunday Sun (as it was then) the following morning remains as vivid as ever. Former Brownlow Medallist, Neil Roberts was writing for them then, and he didn’t make even a cursory attempt to hide his disdain for Hawthorn in writing – “HISTORY, HAWKS HAVE HAD IT!” This headline, funnily enough, was the first thing that came into my mind several months later as the siren blew a merciful end to Essendon’s traumatic attempt to best Hawthorn on Grand Final day.



Princes Park holds other precious memories for me too, of course. High among them, another Saturday, 7 years on, sitting quietly in my seat, numb from having been fired from my job the previous day, and licking very raw wounds in the best way I knew how. I don’t think I was ever more grateful to the side for that win. I was also on hand, in the Elliott stand (yes Virginia, some people actually paid good money to sit in it) when a hapless Fitzroy fan, frazzled beyond the limits of his sanity, stood and regaled stunned onlookers with his own footballing version of the Gettysburg Address. If the prose was not always as eloquent as it may have been, the passion invested in the delivery more than amply compensated. Fitzroy, as did happen so often, were belted again, but I can’t help but think had they only had another 100 supporters like this guy they may still have been with us today.



Vale Princes Park. You may have been home to the enemy infidels, but I loved you dearly, all the same…
 

Stormin Norman

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as a blues supporter this will be a very hard day r.i.p. the home of the most premiership cups the only team left other than melb to play at its original ground will miss u robert heatley stand
 

meltiger

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Good riddance to a sh*thole.

AFL footy has moved beyond stadiums like this.


Yes I always hated Princess Park.
 

Red Bear

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Is the ground being demoloished or is this just gunna be the last game they ever play there?
When did the teams start to move away from their home grounds to the big two? I know Carlton only moved this season(sorry im pretty new to AFL n am not in touch with the history all that well).
 

camsmith

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The teams started moving away from suburban grounds in around 70's I think?
I don’t think the ground will be demolished.. It'll probably just be used for Carlton to train at (like teams do at windy hill, punt rd, moorabbin etc...)

I've only seen one game there myself, and didn’t mind it, although I would much prefer the MCG or Telstra Dome..
Personally, my opinion is, if the Waverly park had to go, then so should optus oval/Princes Park.
In fact, I don't know how Princes Park lasted that long in this day in age of AFL footy.
I still hate the AFL for getting rid of Waverly :x , I think the first game I went to was there (Vs Bulldogs..) and I still remember playing on the ground at half time. I guess it also helped it was only a 20 minute drive away... But I’ll miss it watching footy in the suburbs. :cry:

I feel sorry for Carlton supporters who grew up watching the Blues play at Princes Park and now will never (officially) seem them play there again. But AFL no longer cares about what the supporters want, and basically getting rid of these ground means more money for them so it was only a matter of time before they got rid of it. :rolleyes:
 

meltiger

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Richmond moved in the 60's. Around the time St Kilda moved to Moorabin.

North Melbourne 80's.

Essendon/Collingwood/St Kilda/Hawthorn moved to the G or Waverley in the 90's.

Footscray/Carlton have moved out of the suburbs and into Telstra Dome since it opened.
 

camsmith

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So i guess the 90's was the time when the AFL decided to take footy away from its supporters?
 

meltiger

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I'd rather watch Richmond V Collingwood @ the G in front of 50K then having full cans of beer thrown @ me with 20k at Scum Park.

I'd argue what they did was for the greater good of the game.


Except when it comes to Waverley.
 

Stormin Norman

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the 1st time i went to the mighty princess park i was a kid and just moved down from the country my dad a big rich supporter took me to see the blues v rich and we won by 123 points great day out for all
 

meltiger

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Stormin Norman said:
my dad a big rich supporter took me to see the blues v rich and we won by 123 points great day out for all

1994?

Horrible, Horrible game

lol
 

Stormin Norman

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yeah and they locked the gates because it was a sell out and all the rich supports were trying to leave and they couldn't cause the gates were locked untill 3/4 time
 

Timbo

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Aren't they playing a couple of games there during the MCG re-development next season?

Anyway, twas a sad day for the AFL, grounds like that make the game what it is.
 

Stormin Norman

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the mcg should be finished by the time afl season starts next yr and i really hope there are no more games because its fitting that carlton played the last game there souths experment at north sydney oval last night did nothing for ne one
 

meltiger

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Stormin Norman said:
yeah and they locked the gates because it was a sell out and all the rich supports were trying to leave and they couldn't cause the gates were locked untill 3/4 time

lol

I don't remember that exactly, it was the only game I have ever left from early though.

A dirty dirty day for Richmond.
 

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