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Wade McKinnon Suspension

Soberstate

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Right McKinnon gets a 3 matrch ban for spitting at a touch judge ! :x

What are your opinnions on this decision

First thing that comes to my mind is just enough of a ban to keep us out of the finals, obviously the touchie saying it was deffinately directed at him seems to be what sold it (from our side anyway) as hilder had video footage of spit hitting quinns face yet he wasn't quite so upset so it has been thrown out :shock:
 

Rich102

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Will the touchie get a three match suspension for missing a forward pass right in front of him?
 

ozbash

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The NRL last night defended its judicial process after Warriors fullback Wade McKinnon was found guilty of spitting at a match official - only to be handed a three-match suspension for an offence labelled "reprehensible" during the hearing.

The Warriors signalled their intention to appeal against the decision, even though the NRL's counsel had urged the panel to suspend the fullback for up to 11 matches after an incident during the clash with Penrith last Sunday.
The three-man panel of Royce Ayliffe, Darren Britt and Bob Lindner took almost 50 minutes to find McKinnon guilty of spitting at touch judge Brett Suttor, but decided to give him a suspension that could see him play again this year, even though he was suspended for two matches last year for shoving referee Jason Robinson.
"The judiciary panel is made up of three former high-profile players whose responsibility is to hear the evidence and make a decision based on that evidence," NRL chief operating officer Graham Annesley said after the hearing.
"In making their decision, they take into consideration all the relevant facts placed before them and any directions from the chairman, and their decision is final, subject to the appeal provisions of the NRL rules. We have absolute confidence in the integrity and the ability of the panellists charged with that responsibility."
The Warriors issued a statement after the hearing, with CEO Wayne Scurrah saying the club was "devastated and disappointed that Wade has been found guilty" and declared McKinnon had been treated unfairly.
But the suspension was curious. NRL counsel Peter Kite urged the panel to consider a penalty of between nine and 11 matches, describing the offence as "particularly reprehensible, made worse by the fact that it's directed at a match official". He also said McKinnon had been cautioned for dissent by referee Ben Cummins five minutes before the altercation with Suttor.
McKinnon unsuccessfully argued that he had been suffering from a sinus infection and also spat regularly because he wore upper and lower mouthguards after suffering a fractured palate in 2006, also against Penrith.
When it was put to McKinnon, by Kite, that he had spat in Suttor's direction, the fullback replied: "If I'm running, I spit, if I'm standing there, I spit. I don't have a traditional way of spitting."
He also maintained he did not say anything to Suttor. "When the try was scored, I yelled out 'the touchie stopped, the touchie stopped'," he said. "I was just listening to Micheal Luck, who was blowing up at the ref ... I cleared my throat and walked back to the huddle."
Asked by his counsel, Geoff Bellew, if he was conscious of the fact Suttor was nearby when he spat, McKinnon said: "No, I was just spitting on the ground."
Suttor said the spit landed about 30 centimetres from him and just missed his right knee, but Bellew said that was "almost an impossibility" because the two were at least five metres apart.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4680073a1823.html

wade is a deadset wanker..
 

blain

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what i dont understand is, why they didnt give him longer if they think he actually did it. i've heard the charge is up to 11 weeks. with them giving him 3 games, it says they dont know if he actually did it.

how the f**k can you dish out suspension because they think he "could" have done it with no evidence at all!?!

bullsh*t in my opinion. all you can do is tell mckinnon to stfu and the refs might not try so hard to get him suspended or sent off, in last years case.
 

NZ Warrior

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What utter f**king bullsh*t.

One player's case gets thrown out, where spit actually made contact with a person. And another player gets suspended for spitting in the direction of a person 6m away.

f**k off!!!
 

ozbash

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nope, very serious.

the guys got history, once again he lets the team down with his ill discipline and hot headed reactions to officials.

I'm not saying the touchie was right but there is no excuse for the abuse he copped from wankawade...

thank christ for lance...
 

JJ

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It's a joke

If he did do it, 11 weeks is still on the light side IMO.

Smacks of a wet bus ticket, or a suspicion he might have, but no actual proof so a light sentence.

If they believe he did it and there's evidence to support it, then the book should have been thrown at him. If the evidence is not there, then he should have gotten off - but Messrs Cleary, Price, Wiki et al should make things quite clear to old Wade in terms of his on-field responsibilities.
 

NZ Warrior

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nope, very serious.

the guys got history, once again he lets the team down with his ill discipline and hot headed reactions to officials.

I'm not saying the touchie was right but there is no excuse for the abuse he copped from wankawade...

thank christ for lance...

Well, on that premise, let's all bag the sh*t out of Luck!!!

How dare he lose his rag at the officials, when he doesn't have the (c) beside his name!!! That guy's a real prick!!!
 

Sef0r

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nope, very serious.

the guys got history, once again he lets the team down with his ill discipline and hot headed reactions to officials.

I'm not saying the touchie was right but there is no excuse for the abuse he copped from wankawade...

thank christ for lance...

Agreed, he has a hot temper and one that needs to be controlled before he gets dumped by the club....but that is all, a hot temper. I do not agree with the spitting toward the touchie. I watched the replay, that was pure and utter BS.

...and yes, thank christ for Lance because there is absolutely no chance that the Warriors will get this decision overturned.
 

ozbash

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I watched the replay, that was pure and utter BS.

same, he didnt actually spit at him but in his direction , ie, i'm pissed off with you.

enough to get charged.

it seems you are allowed to abuse touchies more than refs ?
michael luck should know better..
 

God-King Dean

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While I think the decision is bullsh*t (I wonder if Wade was a Newcastle player...), McKinnon needs to wake up to himself. He carries on like an absolute f*ckwit. If he keeps it up Cleary should give him a week on the sidelines.
 

JB

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f**ked up decision that'll hurt us bigtime. Cant believe after last week's performance that numbnuts Suttor get's another gig sideline. Way to go NRL.
 

Rich102

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I see the warriors are appealing the decision.
Stupid move; he is likely to get a longer suspension.:(
 

ozbash

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Stupid move; he is likely to get a longer suspension

be interesting tho, you would think they would have put their best case forward last night.

maybe there have been new developements, sinus, asthma, midges ??
 
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The problem is that there is no consistancy.
Yes there is a difference between spitting on a player vs offical.
BUT Hilder was seen to be looking at the player and spit seen on the camera shot and Quinn stating he felt being spat on, but didn't see Hilder do it (but he sure seemed to know about it after the game) but the camera did! He got no suspension and it probably deserved 1 week.

McKinnon did spit there is not doubt.
If he really wanted to "spit" at the offical he had plenty of time to walk up to him to do it, or even give a good head tilt back or head flick for extra distance!
If he had hit the offical, not problem, at least 8-12 weeks.
How much did Andrew Johns get for calling the offical an "f-en C" 2 weeks!
McKinnon would of had to have said "I spit on you" or something similar to show his intent, or make large movements toward the offical, or actions to add distance to his already olympic record spit!

Lets hope if he doesnt get off on appeal, that no players swear and the ref is in the direct they are swearing, as it may be considered to be directed at an offical!

Philip
 
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