Wakefield Trinity

[The Clan]

Having survived one of the worst crisis in their 138 year history and now securing a franchise for the next three years Wakefield are set to rise from the ashes to become a force in the game again.

New owner Andrew Glover has overhauled the business model and the club is now running at a profit, the old stadium will be temporarily redeveloped so as to offer a greater spectator experience and facilities etc for the next two years.
The new stadium is expected to get the nod and be built in time for the end of the 2013 season.

Despite the doom hanging over the club the attendances are up by 16%, a great effort, also commercial revenue, hospitality and sponsorship is at a record high.

The youth development structure has been hailed as one of the best in the game and even Leeds Rhinos have openly admitted that they have copied it.
The instigation of Club 1873 will provide in excess of £250,000 per year which will be added to the already substantial budget for youth development hopefully leading to the most effective system in the game.

The community development is THE BEST in the game and again the RFL have openly encouraged other clubs to contact Trinity and take advice on how to improve.

The club are now interviewing for a new coach with the focus being on the future, youth development is the priority and coach development is also on the agenda with an eye on future coaches coming from within the club. Sport sciences are hoped to play a much greater role in player development and preparation.

Recruitment has already begun for next year with experience and quality being brought to the club to compliment the youngsters that have manfully toiled during the 2011 season.
Highly rated hooker Andy Ellis, England Winger Peter Fox, sought after Vince Mellars, Cowboys favourite Steve Southern, former Wildcat and tough as teak Oli Wilkes and the experienced and gifted Ali Lauitiiti are already added to the talented Trinity youngsters with many more signings yet to come.

Trinity will spend very close to the cap limit to bring in one or possibly two marquee halfbacks and the next two seasons will see the club incrementally reach the full salary cap.

With all this sorted the next few years will be exciting times for the club and the fans.

 

[Highway1]

Sounds good, hopefully Wakefield deliver this time around.

 

[Evil Homer]

Wakefield still need to radically improve their stadium before they can even be considered a credible SL club. What's stopping them building a new stadium on the current Belle Vue site if finances are in place?

 

[WireMan]

Sounds good. Sounded good last time. Turned out to be a pack of lies.

Still they got another three years for it so well done.

No doubt in a few years they will come up with another action plan to save them.

 

[The Clan]

Wakefield still need to radically improve their stadium before they can even be considered a credible SL club. What's stopping them building a new stadium on the current Belle Vue site if finances are in place?

Redevelopment of Belle Vue begins immediately after the last home game of 2011 against Bradford.

As with many developments the cost of a permanent redevelopment is actualy higher than building new elsewhere also tens if not hundreds of ds have been spent on the Newmarket application, plans, architects designs, redesigns to accommodate early objections from residents and late objections from Natural England and the The Highways Department.

I can live with and understand a certain level of scepticism but people have to accept that the club is under new ownership and thus far they've delivered on every single thing they promised.

I'd also like to think that when Wakefield get into a new stadium we are able to show a tad more understanding for those clubs who are still struggling to get out of their old stadia. Not everyone is lucky enough to have a council that's prepared to build one for you, I hope Trinity fans remember where they came from and resist being smarmy and judgmental.

 

[WireMan]

Redevelopment of Belle Vue begins immediately after the last home game of 2011 against Bradford.

As with many developments the cost of a permanent redevelopment is actualy higher than building new elsewhere also tens if not hundreds of ds have been spent on the Newmarket application, plans, architects designs, redesigns to accommodate early objections from residents and late objections from Natural England and the The Highways Department.

I can live with and understand a certain level of scepticism but people have to accept that the club is under new ownership and thus far they've delivered on every single thing they promised.

I'd also like to think that when Wakefield get into a new stadium we are able to show a tad more understanding for those clubs who are still struggling to get out of their old stadia. Not everyone is lucky enough to have a council that's prepared to build one for you, I hope Trinity fans remember where they came from and resist being smarmy and judgmental.

I agree. But given the Wakey reaction to Halifax fans comments that ain't going to happen.

Still when the government rejuect the Newmarket plans, they will bolt a few seats onto Bell Vue and pretend the promises were delivered.

In Wakey you have 2 teams in one city, both needing a new ground. One has money, one has the land. Yet neither can can do thew maths and build a nice stadium they can share. :roll:

Professional teams call for professional decisions.

 

[The Clan]

I agree. But given the Wakey reaction to Halifax fans comments that ain't going to happen.

Still when the government rejuect the Newmarket plans, they will bolt a few seats onto Bell Vue and pretend the promises were delivered.

In Wakey you have 2 teams in one city, both needing a new ground. One has money, one has the land. Yet neither can can do thew maths and build a nice stadium they can share. :roll:

Professional teams call for professional decisions.

Go on then, enlighten me as to why the SoS will reject Newmarket!

As for ground sharing with Cas, you obviously have no idea about the structure of either development, how they're funded etc neither do you understand the social intricacies of forcing these particular two sets of fans together but why should you when you can't see dick squat from your ivory tower.

As for Halifax, the fans and officials of Wakefield Trinity were pretty dignified in the face of the tirade that came from Michael Steel the Halifax Chairman. Interesting that the BoD of Fax have now climbed down after receiving the RFL feedback on their embarrassing application but no apology to Wakefield Trinity for the unfounded insults or incorrect accessions.

 

[WireMan]

Go on then, enlighten me as to why the SoS will reject Newmarket!

As for ground sharing with Cas, you obviously have no idea about the structure of either development, how they're funded etc neither do you understand the social intricacies of forcing these particular two sets of fans together but why should you when you can't see dick squat from your ivory tower.

As for Halifax, the fans and officials of Wakefield Trinity were pretty dignified in the face of the tirade that came from Michael Steel the Halifax Chairman. Interesting that the BoD of Fax have now climbed down after receiving the RFL feedback on their embarrassing application but no apology to Wakefield Trinity for the unfounded insults or incorrect accessions.

Why has it not been passed yet? Building on a green belt, Locals protesting etc. I would not assume its a done deal yet.


As for the whole ivory towers bit, not sure where you get your visions of Warrington from but it was a clueless as the rest of the paragraph.

Social Intricaces? They don't play at home on the same day.
You do know how a shared stadium works don't you? Wakey one week, Cas the next. Its kinda like how your ground works now, only the new ground is nice and new and costs half as much. The weeks you are not using it, someone else is. That way you may even get some of that council support you want.

We will have to wait and see whether Wakey have sold the RFL a load of hot air again.

 

[The Clan]

Why has it not been passed yet? Building on a green belt, Locals protesting etc. I would not assume its a done deal yet.


As for the whole ivory towers bit, not sure where you get your visions of Warrington from but it was a clueless as the rest of the paragraph.

Social Intricaces? They don't play at home on the same day.
You do know how a shared stadium works don't you? Wakey one week, Cas the next. Its kinda like how your ground works now, only the new ground is nice and new and costs half as much. The weeks you are not using it, someone else is. That way you may even get some of that council support you want.

We will have to wait and see whether Wakey have sold the RFL a load of hot air again.

Just as I thought, another clueless buffoon whos ignorance of the stadium issue renders their opinion worthless.

 

[Evil Homer]

Just as I thought, another clueless buffoon whos ignorance of the stadium issue renders their opinion worthless.

It's not worthless, you can't expect everyone to have in-depth knowledge of all Wakefield's latest developments. The club's track record means there's always going to be a level of uncertainty and skepticism from casual observers for any promises made. As I've said before, once I see evidence of any sort of work commencing then I'll give Wakefield some credit, until then I've got no interest at all in any promises or plans they have and I'd guess the same will apply for the vast majority. Just like Salford, I think Wakefield have burnt their bridges with the RL community in terms of their promises having any credibility, the difference is that Salford now have a stadium and Wakefield still don't have anything.

 

[The Clan]

It's not worthless, you can't expect everyone to have in-depth knowledge of all Wakefield's latest developments. The club's track record means there's always going to be a level of uncertainty and skepticism from casual observers for any promises made. As I've said before, once I see evidence of any sort of work commencing then I'll give Wakefield some credit, until then I've got no interest at all in any promises or plans they have and I'd guess the same will apply for the vast majority. Just like Salford, I think Wakefield have burnt their bridges with the RL community in terms of their promises having any credibility, the difference is that Salford now have a stadium and Wakefield still don't have anything.

Then the bloke should refrain from making sweeping statements of condemnation from his position of pure ignorance.

As I said, I can understand a level of scepticism but to smarmily dismiss the new owners as no different from the last without knowing the first thing about them or what they're intentions are is just stupid.

If you want to wait and see some material proof that's fine, do that but why then come on this board and be totally negative and dismissive when you know none of the facts. I'm well informed, I know the latest details which is why I posted this thread, if you don't believe me and want proof then sit tight until you have it.

 

[WireMan]

Then the bloke should refrain from making sweeping statements of condemnation from his position of pure ignorance.

As I said, I can understand a level of scepticism but to smarmily dismiss the new owners as no different from the last without knowing the first thing about them or what they're intentions are is just stupid.

If you want to wait and see some material proof that's fine, do that but why then come on this board and be totally negative and dismissive when you know none of the facts. I'm well informed, I know the latest details which is why I posted this thread, if you don't believe me and want proof then sit tight until you have it.

Your right, Wakey fans are the only people who talk sense and know the facts.

Anybody who dares to even think that Wakey to got into superleague on the back of fiction, somehow managed to get worse over the three years of franchises, and were rewarded with another license must be a buffoon.

Anyone who dares to suggest that two teams in one city who both need a new ground, but neither can afford may be better sharing one. Sorry i forgot that is just stupid ain't it?

Still at least they did well today, managed to keep Wire down to only 66 points.
Superleague? Your having a laugh.

 

[The Clan]

Your right, Wakey fans are the only people who talk sense and know the facts.

Anybody who dares to even think that Wakey to got into superleague on the back of fiction, somehow managed to get worse over the three years of franchises, and were rewarded with another license must be a buffoon.

Anyone who dares to suggest that two teams in one city who both need a new ground, but neither can afford may be better sharing one. Sorry i forgot that is just stupid ain't it?

Still at least they did well today, managed to keep Wire down to only 66 points.
Superleague? Your having a laugh.

Keep spouting you idiot, you're just proving my point for me!

Wakefield fans talk sense about their current situation and know the majority of the facts about what's happening at Wakefield, is that so hard to understand even for someone as challenged as you?

Wakefield have the full funding to build the new stadium if/when we get a positive decision from the SoS, so where does neither being able to afford come into it, more evidence of you opening your mouth without engaging your brain or having any knowledge of what your talking about.

As for the jibe about yesterday's result, even more ignorance on show as to the reasons why Wakefields team is not competitive this year. We were good enough to produce Ben Westwood and Ryan Atkins though weren't we.

 

[Highway1]

Whats the current stadium situation for Wakefield?
New Stadium or a redeveloped Belle Vue?
With the New Stadium, whats the news?
With Belle Vue, whats works will be put on it?

 

[WireMan]

Keep spouting you idiot, you're just proving my point for me!

Wakefield fans talk sense about their current situation and know the majority of the facts about what's happening at Wakefield, is that so hard to understand even for someone as challenged as you?

Wakefield have the full funding to build the new stadium if/when we get a positive decision from the SoS, so where does neither being able to afford come into it, more evidence of you opening your mouth without engaging your brain or having any knowledge of what your talking about.

As for the jibe about yesterday's result, even more ignorance on show as to the reasons why Wakefields team is not competitive this year. We were good enough to produce Ben Westwood and Ryan Atkins though weren't we.

:lol:

Some nice insults you like to throw in this thread.

Nothing else though, i know what Wakey have said.
The issue is whether they are telling the truth this time.


The reason for Wakefields team being so rubbish is that they have gone backwards over three years.
Good enough to produce Westwood and Atkins? Well yeah, you were good enough to feed them so they grew up. They had to leave to become rugby players though. ;-)

 

[Evil Homer]

Atkins wasn't a Wakefield product, he signed from Bradford when he was 20.

 

[WireMan]

Atkins wasn't a Wakefield product, he signed from Bradford when he was 20.

ssshhh, leave him alone, he is having a rant about ignorant buffoons.

 

[The Clan]

Atkins hadn't played 1st team football when he came to Wakefield, he was very raw and developed into a player the likes of Tony Smith coveted, I'd suggest that qualifies my statement that he was developed by Wakefield.

Wireman, can you tell me the name of the person who lied, if lies they were, before?

As for the stadia situations:

Newmarket is currently awaiting the decision of a Public Inquiry, that decision is now part of a published timescale and will be known no later than March 2012. If it's positive the funding is 100% secured and Colin Mackie, MD of York Court Properties has confirmed that construction can begin almost immediately, with a build time of 46 weeks that means the stadium should be ready by mid to late 2013.

The development has a section 23 clause which means the stadium must be built and brought into use before any other structure can come into use. This guarantees that the stadium will be built immediately as the Developers cannot release any revenue from their distribution warehouses until it is.

Even if everything goes well the club will have to play out of Belle Vue for at least a season and a half if not two seasons. Within the franchise application Wakefield Trinity guaranteed to upgrade Belle Vue and they must fulfil that promise or face expulsion. The upgrade consists of a full length covered stand on the West terrace, a full width covered seating stand in front of the hospitality boxes and the complete demolition and rebuilding of a covered terrace at the North end. The result will be a 12,500 capacity with 10,000 under cover and 5,000 seats. Apart from the stands there will be extra toilets, bars, food outlets etc.

The structures being used will be dismantled and moved to the second pitch at Newmarket meaning the Academy and Reserves will have a superb facility to play in as well as the new stadium.

 

[WireMan]

It sounds good, and i hope they do everything they say they will. You have to understand the scepticism after last time though.

Can you not just redevelop the current ground? If you are gong to upgrade half the ground it may be easier to do the whole lot? Or is there space/facility issues?


Well i hope you get your new ground, these government PIs can be a right pain. Warrington had to have one and it was very touch and go, we had a public campaign, full backing from the council etc. so it can be a hard road. I hope the club can identify a plan B. With politicians you never quite know which way it will fall. Especially as the Wakey council is half full of Cas fans!!

 

[BrisbaneRhino]

I hope Wakefield get the new ground built, because if they don't they'll be the team turfed out in the next round of franchising.