Warriors salary cap investigation

[Robster]

its been answered mate.

 

[douglasallen91]

2002- 37 points

2006 - 6 points.

Hmmm.

That noted, I still would not like the Warriors to be rubbed out in 06 like the dogs were in 02. 37 points was too harsh that year. Oh well, water under the bridge.

it will affect the warriors more out of the pocket due to gate takings, merchandise as the season hasn't started.

 

[douglasallen91]

You can't have retrospective wooden spoons.

They must be deducted points for 2006 if the NRL are serious about policing the salary cap.

if the warriors get the wooden spoon this year it wouldn't be quite right either since they would have got it with a team under the cap, but with one hand tied behind their back

 

[Stagger eel]

if I were a Warriors boss, I'd be more than happy with the 6pt loss..more than happy.

 

[douglasallen91]

The idea is to avoid the salary cap being undermined by other offers of employment. Whether that is a real problem, if the employment is post football, is a question for debate.

However, the fact that such guarantees of post football employment do count to the cap was well known.

In fact, it was instrumental in the Raiders losing Wiki.

Wiki wanted guaranteed employment with the Raiders post football eg in coaching. It couldn't be provided as such payments were clearly to be counted to the salary cap - there were public comments made along these lines at the time.

If (and it is still an "if") it is shown that the Warriors contract for Wiki includes such guarantees, but they weren't counted for the cap, then I, for one, would be incensed.

It would mean that the Warriors unfairly recruited Wiki from Canberra - one of the greatest Raiders ever, who didn't really want to leave, but did so as the Warriors contract offered payment the Raiders couldn't match.

the nrl approved the contract and it was public knowledge that their was after career contract at the club offered.

 

[KeepingTheFaith]

Personally I'd like to see the club fined as a whole but individuals made accountable for their actions. If they can prove these allegations in detail then surely they'd have some idea of which players/agents/management were knowingly involved illegally. Sack the management, remove the agents and deregister the players for this season. I'd rather have a legal team of no names start on even footing than a team of illegal "stars" getting the chance to play catch up.

 

[aenima1]

they robbed the dogs of 37 points when they were well ahead of the rest of the competition looking to be favourites to win the comp so how can a small 6 points be such a huge punishment to the warriors?

 

[Lego_Man]

That's already been explained. If the Warriors are under the cap for 2006, they should not be deducted points for 2006.

 

[douglasallen91]

Sack the management

the management got the boot last season along with the coach.

 

[Baron Vo Mandor]

the Warriors won't have a chance if they are -6 points at the start of the season, the fans will be basically watching and cheering for pride unless a miracle happens.

I beg to differ even with a -6 deduction thats only a maximum of 16 wins to get in the finals you's can still loose 8 match's.

Very hard but you never know.

 

[Baron Vo Mandor]

You'll have to explain that one to me. As far as I can see it's extremely easy and convenient.

Convenient and extremely immoral!

You's got caught out, as a fan you have to be man enough to accept whatever penalty the NRL bestows.

Where talking about potentially a $1,000,000 over not $100k.

 

[KeepingTheFaith]

the management got the boot last season along with the coach.

Not everyone got the boot last year. They all need to be looked at and if found responsible in any way, dealt with accordingly.

 

[KeepingTheFaith]

Convenient and extremely immoral!

You's got caught out, as a fan you have to be man enough to accept whatever penalty the NRL bestows.

Where talking about potentially a $1,000,000 over not $100k.

That's about the third time you've quoted the million dollar mark. It could also be as low as $500,000 which granted is big enough to warrant a similar penalty but is half the amount that is being thrown around. Personally I'd suspect it's somewhere in the middle of the 2, but until all the facts are out nobody can be sure.

 

[nqboy]

The stuff I've read says it's around $500,000, I haven't seen the $1M figure quoted anywhere.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

Today's SMH claimed $500,000. They also spoke to Mick Watson who has volunteered to co-operate (probably because Uncle Eric will sack him from Cullen Sports if he doesn't). I'm hoping that the whole thing turns out to be much less serious than first indicated, $500K is still bad but it isn't in the same league as $2M+.

 

[KeepingTheFaith]

The media, especially sydney, have already played judge jury and executioner and have almost backed the NRL into a corner over the whole thing. Roy Masters especially, his article really got under my skin.

 

[mattyj]

Today's SMH claimed $500,000. They also spoke to Mick Watson who has volunteered to co-operate (probably because Uncle Eric will sack him from Cullen Sports if he doesn't). I'm hoping that the whole thing turns out to be much less serious than first indicated, $500K is still bad but it isn't in the same league as $2M+.

I dont really give a toss about the amount of $$ to be honest, i just hope that they committed just one breach. Sure one very very big breach but one none the less. This is the issue that could differentiate this drama from the Bulldogs scandal IMO (where from what i can remember there we many).

As a Warriors supporter its simple in my book.......one breach i can live with, more than one IMO implies deaset intentional cheating and we deserve the Maximum penalty

 

[Rammo]

I dont really give a toss about the amount of $$ to be honest, i just hope that they committed just one breach. Sure one very very big breach but one none the less. This is the issue that could differentiate this drama from the Bulldogs scandal IMO (where from what i can remember there we many).

As a Warriors supporter its simple in my book.......one breach i can live with, more than one IMO implies deaset intentional cheating and we deserve the Maximum penalty

So a $500,000 breach was a one off, and not intentional was it?

 

[mattyj]

So a $500,000 breach was a one off, and not intentional was it?

Im just saying that one breach could be a misinterpritation of the cap especially if you are talking about a players employment for 3 yrs post his playing career.

More than one error in many different areas is proof that you are a cheat.

Dont get me wrong im not saying that a half a million dollar breach is ok, but as a fan it is easier to swallow than supporting a team that is half a million over the cap via outright cheating and then still coming 12th.

 

[Raider Ultra]

Any club that intentionally breaches the cap should be come down on like a tonne of bricks, regardless of the size.