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was it worth it?????

dino2170

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I was wondering if the Bennett experiment was worth it by him getting us a premiership and then leaving us? In as much that it left us in dissaray both in the coaching and player recruitment for years.

Would we in a better situation now if we employed a good coach rather than a great coach?

THOUGHTS????
 

dino2170

Juniors
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thats right we would of better served if we rebuilt slowly under a good coach and we may not of been in the current predicament.
 

giboz71

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I'm currently enjoying the Dragons Club day on Fox. The first game was a 2010 game against Souths where Gaz scored his first try after coming back.

F##k, we were a great side under Bennett. Hornby and Soward just controlled the game so well, Boyd at his scheming best and defensively, just awesome.

Such a far cry from where we are today.
 

BennyV

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thats right we would of better served if we rebuilt slowly under a good coach and we may not of been in the current predicament.
Lol wouldnt have made a difference, if not for Bennett it just means that we would have been stuck with another Old Boy, and our slide would have started in 2009, not 2012. At least this way, we got a premiership out of it.
 

Slippery Morris

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Bloody oath the Bennett experiment was worth every cent. Pity they under estimated his great work and followed it up with rubbish. Bennett not only made Saints a great side, they were the benchmark of the NRL for 3 seasons. Saints Management thinking what he did was easy and appointed rookies since shows how clueless they are. A good coach is crucial to any side as we saw but the board must have thought the players he had were good enough to do the job and Bennett was not the cause of this great run of 3 years.

Coaching is probably 80% mental and 20% on ability and Bennett got the boys believing they were a great side hence why they won so many games. Soon as he left the doubt came in and the players were then the laughing stock of the game.
 
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Absolutely worth it. Getting a win at last after watching the Dragons lose five grand final appearances since 1979, this was worth well more than any subsequent pain under Price and Mary. Don't forget some of the pain was going to happen anyway due to salary cap issues, player movements and retirements. Some of the pain is due to bad luck. Much of it is self-inflicted which is the really disappointing part and for which Doust and the Board are primarily responsible.
 

getsmarty

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Absolutely worth it. Getting a win at last after watching the Dragons lose five grand final appearances since 1979, this was worth well more than any subsequent pain under Price and Mary. Don't forget some of the pain was going to happen anyway due to salary cap issues, player movements and retirements. Some of the pain is due to bad luck. Much of it is self-inflicted which is the really disappointing part and for which Doust and the Board are primarily responsible.

Agree 100%...2010 erased a lot of painful memories...seems like so long ago now...the Bennett teams had belief and Toughness in the pack. We are back to the incompetent club we were pre Bennett.

P.S It was a pleasure watching our side when it was coached by Wayne..always competitive...the nonsense since then has been like comedy capers. 2016 was one of the worst coached Dragons teams we have had to endure in the last 30 years. SHAME ON THE CLUB.
 

Dragonslayer

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Absolutely worth it, after all we secured a very long waited premiership that probably we would still be waiting for.
The issue since, IMO, is that they (Dragons Board etc) to try and use the same Bennett methodology with bargain priced (pardon the pun) rookies and expecting the same result. Then further exacerbating the probkem by refusing to admit their mistake and hoping, by some miracle, we would fluke another premiership.
Hell they must have thought all their Christmas's had cone at once when we made the finals in 2015 and that's why they've never said a negative statement when McGregor keeps repeating it as if it was the zenith of our lifetime.
 

latemail

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Thank f**k we had Bennett
I've been waiting 30 odd years for that premiership
I don't think we will see another in the next 30 with the pack of antiquated f**kwits ruining our once great club at the rate of knots
 

giboz71

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Bennett knew what it took to win. Smart halves, a skillfull fullback who provides direction from the back (hence he takes Boyd everywhere he goes), hard nosed forwards and a steely defence. The complete opposite of what we have today.

Bennett showed us the blueprint, we've just been too clueless to follow it.
 

glenndragon

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Bennett was worth every cent... however with success comes players playing rep footy, then inflated contracts had to be paid, players wanting more monies & the salary cap squeezing the club by the nuts...Costigan, smith, daffy, Boyd etc leaving not long after premiership success. Gasnier coming back in 2010 on peanuts then having to be paid more serious brass in 2011 when his running game wasn't as affective as the past, soward stopped running with the ball and weyman was clearly just burnt out....with these players mentioned, the club decided to go on the cheap with replacements.....bennets advice on his coaching replacements in henjak at broncs, stone at the knights & price etc showed that even great coaches aren't fallible....
 

Gareth67

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Sure , he delivered what he was paid to do , 3 years at the top of the competition , including that much sought after premiership ( and with a bit of luck it could had been two ) and one other thing that was almost as good as the trophy , he gave respect back to our club . For that 3 year period , we were being touted as the competition favourites , we were the team to beat , what a wonderful feeling that was .

The years after his exit , a complete shambles , thanks to the appointment of Laurel and Hardy as coaches . Would take him back in a heartbeat , if by some miracle the club found itself with a spare dollar , or two . As he would surely instill pride back into the Big Red V .
 
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Dragonsteve2

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Sunday October 3, 2010. The best birthday of my life! Birthday lunch with my son, his wife and one daughter. My other daughter in contact from Brighton, England, where she got the manager of the hotel where she worked to fire up a big TV screen at 6am just for her to watch the game. The premiership, the best birthday present ever! I do not like the current pain especially when management has contributed to it rather than remedying it. But I will take it and cherish the memories of 2010 forever!
 

giboz71

Coach
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I think 'The Bennett years' basically exposed how utterly incompetent the club and senior management have been either side of that period.
One premiership in the last 37 years for such a famous and proud club is an absolute disgrace.

I actually didn't mind the Brown years. No we couldn't quite win a comp, but we did manage to put together decent sides largely made up of homegrown talent. And the style of football we played was at least entertaining which made them easy to support.

The post Bennett era has been a pile of dog turds in comparison, largely made up of over paid useless recruits, no development of juniors and a brand of football that makes us the least watchable side in the comp.
 
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