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Wayne Cousins is a bit of fool...

N.C.

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SHEENS HOLDS COURT ON 'BENJI QUESTIONS' By Wayne Cousins

Like a classic gunslinger in the western movies, respected Wests Tigers Coach Tim Sheens just picked off his opponents one by one.

Sitting alongside CEO Scott Longmuir, captain Robbie Farah, international Dene Halatau and the most capped Wests Tigers player of them all, John Skandalis (now the club’s community liaison officer). Sheens fielded questions on the future of key playmaker Benji Marshall in between launching the 10th anniversary celebrations of Wests Tigers.

Before long, the first question is fired. ‘Has Benji Marshall given the team a bit of a birthday present in terms of his re-signing?’

Clearing his throat, Sheens replied “that’s an ongoing negotiation. He has indicated he wants to be here.’’ Done.

Move on.

Next question: ‘Is there any movement on him playing in Japan for a season?’

Longmuir steps in…“this rugby union thing has been on and off for a long time. I think there has been some discussion but again, there has been nothing concrete come across our table yet and we are working very closely with his manager as well. At the moment, it is just speculation.’’

Coach smiles.

A reporter fires off the next question. ‘Would you still resign him if he had a stint in Japan?’

“That would be another discussion with Tim and our organisation to see if we would be comfortable with that,’’ Longmuir states.

Next Benji question. ‘Tim, would you be happy for him to come back into the place if he did play rugby?’.

After taking a deep breath, Sheens shoots from the hip.

“Like Scott said, it is all speculative. For the player group to let another player not train in a pre-season situation and maybe miss games is a big ask, particularly a key player in a key position,’’ Sheens said.

“It is no secret I am pushing hard to play Benji at seven. He will play there this weekend. A lot of those things would have to be considered.

“We have talked about Europe and other things but no-one knows much about what would happen in Japan, and what the competition is. I know nothing about what they do or what their level of competition is or what the fatigue factor would be on him, let alone the actual dates of the competition.

“We can’t do anything until something is put in front of us.”

Another Benji question. ‘Those factors, fatigue, risk of injury, are real issues considering the history he does have?’

Still calm but getting tired of the same old questions, Sheens replied. “Look again, I didn’t want to be dragged any further into it guys and at the moment, it has been on again, off again and I don’t think there is anything concrete there, so we just continually talk about what might happen. There are a lot of things that might happen, so at this stage, you wait to see what the proposal was, if there is going to be a proposal.

“At the moment, his manager is negotiating with us as if there is virtually no proposal. At the moment, that possibility is holding things up.

“We are in no hurry and neither are they. He is on contract this year coming, so it is not as if something has to be done tomorrow.’’

With that, the format of the questions changed, although Benji was still part of the equation. This time, it was talk around Chris Lawrence moving to five-eighth to partner Marshall.

Question: ‘Is there anything to read into that now that Lawrence is in the centres for the Souths trial’.

Glad to talk about the team itself, Sheens got going again.

“I would have to say Chris will be left in the centres for a little while. I’m experimenting with one change in the halves and so, it would be a big risk for me and a little bit too disruptive for the team to experiment with two,’’ Sheens said.

“I would like to slowly blood Chris into the five-eighth position. At the moment, he is a representative standard centre and he plays his best football there. He is 20 years of age and I am not going to ask him to do things that he can’t do just yet.

“He will be given little opportunities to play five-eighth in set pieces but overall it might be 12 months for me to settle on whether Marshall is successful at seven before I start worrying about a young 20 year old six next to him.’’

Next question involves John Morris. ‘Is John Morris a form of a stabilizer at five-eighth?’.

Tim: ‘Yes, poor old Johnny has been put into that category. He will plug the gap. He can play nine, seven, six and 13. We bought John originally as a utility player and he has given more than value for what we paid for Johnny Morris.

“Not only the number of games but the effort he puts in. He is a very, very professional player. He might not score 20 tries a season but there is plenty of work done behind the scenes with John. Part of that is stabilizing. The fact is he is an experienced player and he has handled whatever we have thrown at him. He has been very good for the team.’’

The questions move on, ranging from how disappointing was the Souths team for the weekend to concerns about the extreme heat forecasted. Will ice vests be used?’

“They are playing in quarters and the white jumpers. I am sure the game will be played in a way that we can get three trainers on,’’ Sheens said.

Longmuir chips in with a comment about a late afternoon breeze predicted. To which Sheens replied “there used to always be a late southerly blow at Redfern in the old days but all it ever blew was dust”.

Sheens says every ‘precaution’ will be taken. “The early part of the NRL season is always hot, so we might as well get used to it. I think the only person panicking is (Englishman) Gareth Ellis, who might just suffer from sunstroke.’’

Attention switches to captain Farah, who used his spare time to cool off with club sponsored product, Gatorade. ‘When will you be back from the back injury’.

Farah nominates the Foundation Cup at the SFS on February 21 before adding he would like a full game against Shellharbour on March 6, the week before the comp starts.
Next. 'Would he welcome Benji back if he played rugby in Japan?'.
"If it means keeping him at the club, I'm sure everyone will be pretty open minded about it,'' Farah stated.

The next question involves around ‘how does Robbie Farah prepare for what could be a big representative season for him with the NSW job on offer?’.

Farah returns serve with an ace. “It’s just the same like any other off-season, I just want to get myself fit. I’ve had surgery so a lot of my work has been rehab. I’m not worried about Origin. I just want to get fit for round one.

Are you worried about the back playing up?. Farah replies ‘The pain’s gone, mate”.

Unfortunately for Sheens, the pain was still hanging around. More questions on Benji followed. Almost, the same answers given. Nothing new revealed.

The focus switches to Halatau, a member of the World Cup winning Kiwis team. He is asked ‘how Sheens would go as the Australian coach should the position be offered?’

“He would do a great job for the Aussies,’’ Halatau said.

As for Skandalis, he was asked about the early years of the joint venture. Now a full-time member of the sales and marketing team, the chance to promote membership was not lost on him.

“We had some tough years. The club itself has gone from strength to strength. Our ultimate membership this year has gone up 35 per cent already. We are going to have to work hard like every club does because of the financial crisis happening,’’ Skandalis said, impressively.

With that, the press conference was all but over. With cameras flashing and recording, Sheens, Farah and Halatau cut the chocolate anniversary cake.

The media sang a different tune for a change, much to Sheens’ liking. That, of ‘Happy Birthday Wests Tigers’.
 

Magpies Forever

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How about giving Teflon & Co some searching questions on his team selections, recruitment problems (#25 player), playing favourites and failed tactics?
 

macnaz

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Thanks for posting NC

What about this quote ?? "We bought John originally as a utility player" BS they bought him as a halfback !! no if no but's. Friggin Liar
 

Magpies Forever

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Thanks for posting NC

What about this quote ?? "We bought John originally as a utility player" BS they bought him as a halfback !! no if no but's. Friggin Liar

They allow him to get away with so much- incredible isn't it. That one you quoted was a beaut- yep John Morris was contracted on as his half back.

John Morris signs with Wests Tigers
Mon June 26, 2006
by Matthew O'Neill
Parramatta utility John Morris has signed with the Wests Tigers for three seasons where he'll be the replacement for departing halfback Scott Prince next season.

Wests Tigers recruitment manager Warren McDonnell said the club was very happy to secure the services of Morris until the end of the 2009 season.

"John will fill the half-back role left by Scott Prince.

"He is a very experienced player with plenty of talent, and his versatility means he can also cover five-eighth, hooker and even lock if need be.

"I am sure John will be a vital asset for the Wests Tigers.''

Morris said,

"I am looking forward to the new challenge of playing for the Wests Tigers.

"They have a great young team and I am sure my game will improve even further under coach Tim Sheens.''

Morris, 25, has played 112 first grade games since making his debut for Newcastle in Round 17 of the 2001 season. Morris played 31 games for the Knights in 2001-02 and has played 81 games for the Eels since 2003. He has scored 27 tries (nine of them with Newcastle), nine goals and two drop-goals in his career to date.

Hailing from the Scone Thoroughbreds Junior Rugby League Club, Morris played for Country Origin in 2002-03.

The news of Morris leaving Parramatta to join Wests Tigers is a major boost for the defending Premiers as they were seeking a direct replacement for Scott Prince and it's a big blow for the Eels as they have lost another off contracted player.

AND THE SERIOUS TEFLON OF LAST YEAR:

Tigers fail to fulfil united dream
Brent Read | August 29, 2008
Article from: The Australian
IN 2005, as Wests Tigers surged to a historic premiership, club officials spoke about becoming the Manchester United of the NRL. Three years later, United has captured a couple of Premiership titles, the Champions League and numerous other trophies.
The Tigers? Since the heroics of 2005, they've won diddly-squat. Their cupboard is bare and patience is wearing thin.
Serious changes are in the wind. Where once the Tigers devoted their time, energy and money into developing their own, the club is ready to cast its net far and wide in search of answers.
Arguably, their only big-name signing in recent seasons has been Britain forward Gareth Ellis -- and he won't arrive until next year.
While the Tigers have unearthed some gems -- Chris Lawrence and Dean Collis for example -- those two are the exception rather than the norm.
The problem with investing in juniors is you need patience and coach Tim Sheens appears to have run out of it.
So have his players. Hooker Robbie Farah, likely to captain the side when Brett Hodgson departs at season's end, has had enough of missing the finals.
Farah has described the past two years as a failure. Given he is off contract at the end of next season, and rival clubs are lying in wait, the Tigers need to ensure they appease their most important player.
That means being active in the player market and surrounding him with talent capable of again threatening for the title.
"Hindsight is a fantastic thing," recruitment manager Warren McDonnell said.
"We won a comp in 2005 on the back of those young kids. We have gone with young blokes ... but you can't put an old head on young shoulders.
"That's hurt us at crucial times."
McDonnell argues the club has splashed out on prominent players. He points to Ryan O'Hara and Sam Harris, neither of whom made an impact at the club, either through injury or loss of form.
"For the last two years, O'Hara has had shocking injuries," McDonnell said.
"Sam Harris was a representative player when we bought him. It didn't work out."
Aside from the lack of big-name recruits, injury has played its part.
The Tigers have only had the spine of their team -- Hodgson, Benji Marshall and Farah -- on the park for 27 games in the past three years.
During that time, Melbourne trio Billy Slater, Cooper Cronk and Cameron Smith have played together on 52 occasions. The other prominent argument where the Tigers are concerned revolves around Scott Prince, whose partnership with Marshall led the club to the 2005 grand final.
Since Prince left at the end of 2006, Marshall has had four partners in the halves.
Things have got so desperate in the latter stages of this season, Sheens has played Farah at halfback.
John Morris, who was recruited to play the position, is back at hooker and the experiment with him at halfback appears over as Sheens prepares to start next season with Marshall in the No7 jersey.
"John Morris hasn't missed a game since he came to the club," McDonnell said.
"He's given 100 per cent every week."
Balmain director Ben Elias believes the buck stops with Sheens, whose 2005 grand final victory remains the only finals appearance by a side under his control for more than a decade.
"I love Tim Sheens," Elias said.
"At the end of the day there's not a player in the joint whose signature he did not approve.
"Who's accountable for that?"
Sheens conceded he is not immune to criticism. However, he pointed out all was not lost. Should the Tigers win their final two games, they remain an outside chance of qualifying for the finals.
That goal became all the more difficult yesterday when Farah was ruled out of tonight's game against Cronulla with an ankle injury.
Hodgson also remains in doubt as he battles a leg injury.
Given the injury problems the club has had since its grand-final win, the absence of Farah and possibly Hodgson should come as no surprise.
"It's disappointing last year and the year before," Sheens said.
"We have to look at a host of things. It's not just the players. Everyone in the club has to look at their performance."
 
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N.C.

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How about giving Teflon & Co some searching questions on his team selections, recruitment problems (#25 player), playing favourites and failed tactics?
Such questions would no doubt ruffle Sheens. I can see his rusted out six shooter jamming on him even as we speak...

"Journo - If Benji re-signs, would you ever play him in the State Cup if his form warrants it?

Sheens - Now wait a minute son... Uh... Can't get the damn thing... Stuck in the whatsie... Uh... Now look here... Benji is a... He's my friend... He's got... SCOTT? Scott where are you? Can you help me get this thing out of my pocket???"

KAPOW...
 

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I just despair sometimes- Teflon has them wrapped around his fingers. He is not JC, Teflon is fallible like everyone else- the media are supposed to ask questions, not be part of the cheer squad.
 

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I thought at the end of 2008 Teflon was starting to come under the radar of the board, the wests tigers supporters and the league media in general. Looks like 2009 will be the same as every other years, smoke screens,bull dust and of course the well censored "speach to the nation".


2009 will be the same, blame everyone else,refused to accept blame and avoid anyone who dosnt share his vision.
 

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Another fluffy propaganda piece by Cousins:

MORRIS THE RIGHT MAN AT FIVE-EIGHTH POPULAR..Five-eighth John Morris fires out a pass in the Members Only trial win over Souths on Sunday.
By Wayne Cousins

Five-eighth John Morris heads into the 2009 Telstra Premiership with a glowing endorsement from key playmakers Benji Marshall and Chris Lawrence.

Marshall is adamant Morris remains the right person to replace him at five-eighth now the Kiwi international looks set for a permanent shift to half-back.

In their first hit out of the season at Redfern Oval on Sunday, Morris and Marshall looked sharp at times. Both agreed there was room for improvement before the Wests Tigers’ opening game of the season against Canberra at Campbelltown Stadium on March 16.

“I love playing with John. He might not be the flashiest player but he does the hard yards, makes his tackles, and does plenty of work that goes unnoticed,’’ Marshall said.

“All-round, Johnny is just a good guy. He is an integral part of the team.

“He is one of those players that when it is backs against the wall, he stands up and puts his hand up. He is just the type of person you love to have in the team.

“I love having John at five-eighth. We have a good understanding and we are good mates off the field. When it comes to being good mates off the field, it works for you on the field.

“We are just starting to form a combination and it is going well.’’

Marshall said any criticism of Morris’ style of play was unfair, adding he was happy with Morris’ performances at half-back since taking over from Scott Prince two seasons ago.

Morris has now played 48 games for Wests Tigers and has established himself as a fine player in his 171 NRL career games.

“Anyone who has been bagging him about the way he plays obviously doesn’t know much about football,’’ Marshall said.

“I love having John playing next to me. I wouldn’t swap him for anyone else.’’

Like Marshall, Lawrence said Morris makes an invaluable contribution and that the team was not the same without him in the side.

Coach Tim Sheens considered the prospect of Lawrence at five-eighth before settling on Morris, adding one positional change in the halves was enough for the team at this stage.

“John Morris is a great player. He is great in defence, is a great talker, great organiser and he leads from the front,’’ Lawrence declared.

“He doesn’t have the flair that Benji does but he is just a good solid player who puts in and is consistent every week.

“John is one of those players that is always at his best every week and when he is not there, we lose his organisation and his defence on the edges.’’

Sheens stated last week how important Morris was to the team, adding “he has given more than value” for what the club paid for him.

“John is a very, very professional player. He has handled whatever we have thrown at him,’’ Sheens said.

“He has been very good for the team.’’
 
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We move games from Leichhardt and Campbelltown to first ANZ then the SFS, and now we're seeing positive press stuff about a bloke, and I'll be nice here, who has less fans in our fanbase than Scott Sattler.

And of course we have 5 different jerseys in 2009.

Wankers.

Next we'll see a 500 word article about how much Shannon McDonnell means to the side and how fantastic he is.....
 

super_coach

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ITS ALL SPIN, getting the punters ready for 4pm on the tuesday before the first match,the offical team sheet. Lets start building up the profile of a few players the punters dont rate. As EA eluded to, Junior Burger will be the next spin.

I see real danger times, Benji at 7, inexperienced and Morris at 6,solid at best but no kicking game,average passing game and not great vision, all adds up to shaky times

Morris to me is the best no 14 in the club and at the back end of season 08 he was pretty good but not at 6 or 7 not in a million years
 

hrundi99

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Fancy the club's media manager writing a positive article about the club! :shock:

Get a freakin' clue you dropkicks.

Maybe you should get the job. You're obviously qualified... :lol:
 
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Fancy the club's media manager writing a positive article about the club! :shock:

Get a freakin' clue you dropkicks.

Maybe you should get the job. You're obviously qualified... :lol:

lol you again?

You were outed months ago, take a hike you sycophantic weirdo.

I know that you used to work for the club but I'm convinced that you have some sort of romantic attachment to someone at the club who is involved in puff pieces like that bunch of frog turd about Morris.

Now, tell us his name, what's the name of the guy you're involved with...
 

hrundi99

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lol you again?

You were outed months ago, take a hike you sycophantic weirdo.

I know that you used to work for the club but I'm convinced that you have some sort of romantic attachment to someone at the club who is involved in puff pieces like that bunch of frog turd about Morris.

Now, tell us his name, what's the name of the guy you're involved with...

I'm the weirdo...? :lol:
 
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Well, this is the Tigers forum and judging by your avatar you seem to be a Raiders fan. Correct me if I'm wrong. If you can find one post of mine in the Raiders forum, I'll happily call myself a weirdo.

There is no reason for you to be here. We know you're backing up an ex-workmate, but we don't care. Cousins is a goose.
 

N.C.

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Amen to that.

But the weirdo has a point. Of course the spin doctor has a job to do. A very big one. A job that, in all honesty, he couldn't get paid enough for. It's up there with Uncle Joe Hockey trying to sell WorkChoices to the great unwashed. Cousins has been given a turd to polish... If only he had the common sense and decency to realise this, and just flush it instead.
 
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