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Week 7 Discussion

DC_fan

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I have been watching the replay of the Broncos v 49ers game. Denver certainly look good on both Offense and Defense this season, certainly appear to be better then last year.

Manning played so well and now holds the record. Has to be the best passer to have ever played.
 

AusKnightRKO

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Manning is great, but it's not like he has scrubs at the skill positions, all top 10 players in each of their positions and roles.
 

DC_fan

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Manning is great, but it's not like he has scrubs at the skill positions, all top 10 players in each of their positions and roles.


But he helps make those players. Without Manning theSe players like The two Thomass' would not be be putting up the big numbers like they are
 
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shiznit

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But he helps make those players. Without Manning theSe players like The two Thomass' would not be be putting up the big numbers like they are
I'm not so sure.... I agree with Stephen A Smith this morning on first take... Sanders was outstanding at Pittsburgh, Welker was the same with Tom Brady throwing to him... Thomas was doing what he was doing with Tim Tebow at QB... Julius is obviously out of the argument because he's been with Peyton from his rookie year...

They are outstanding receivers all individually... And they were all proven to be before they ever started catching passes for Manning.

I mean... If the Pats went along and brought in Dez Bryant & AJ Green you don't think Brady would be doing the same???
 

Frederick

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Steelers just put on a 2 minute masterclass.

Watch them do nothing for the rest of the game
 

nick87

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that was an incredible 2 minutes from the Texans
they really should be winning this comfortably, handing the game to the steelers by giving them 14 points and failing to finish two drives off
 

God-King Dean

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Am I the only one who thinks that's a terrible decision?

The divet shows he did land in bounds, as the green turf was pushed up against the white.
 

Tom155

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I'm not so sure.... I agree with Stephen A Smith this morning on first take... Sanders was outstanding at Pittsburgh, Welker was the same with Tom Brady throwing to him... Thomas was doing what he was doing with Tim Tebow at QB... Julius is obviously out of the argument because he's been with Peyton from his rookie year...

They are outstanding receivers all individually... And they were all proven to be before they ever started catching passes for Manning.

I mean... If the Pats went along and brought in Dez Bryant & AJ Green you don't think Brady would be doing the same???
Sanders was not great at pitt, DT's numbers are much better than they were with tebow

DT with Tebow

32 catches 551yds 4TD

DT with Manning

Year 1 - 94 catches 1434yds 10 TDs
Year 2 - 92 catches 1430yds 14TDs
Year 3 - 39 catches 662yds 6TDs (Through 6 games)

Sanders "outstanding" stats at Pittsburgh
http://www.nfl.com/player/emmanuelsanders/497322/profile

Manning elevates the play of everyone around him regardless of talent he makes them look good & produce, Brady doesn't do this anywhere near the level of manning

& finally :lol: at you for listening to Stephen a smith or anybody on first take
 
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If i can recall....the only guy who had any sort of form with Tebow was Decker.

anyway, backed the steelers to cover, was furious early, but comes goooooood.

lost my 10 bucks on Antonio Brown to be first TD. luxbet had a special where you get ya money back if he scores any time in the game.

so he f**kn throws a TD. geez
 

one tree hill

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I haven't had the chance to watch Le'Veon Bell play this season but judging by his fantasy stats he's killing it.

How good is he? top 3, 5, 10 HB?
 

nick87

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He's a top 10 guy IMO

Mccoy, Charles, Peterson are still the top 3 in some order IMO, and then on this year Murray is in that conversation

But Bell is right there with the next teir of rbs
 

AusKnightRKO

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Sanders was not great at pitt, DT's numbers are much better than they were with tebow

DT with Tebow

32 catches 551yds 4TD

DT with Manning

Year 1 - 94 catches 1434yds 10 TDs
Year 2 - 92 catches 1430yds 14TDs
Year 3 - 39 catches 662yds 6TDs (Through 6 games)

Sanders "outstanding" stats at Pittsburgh
http://www.nfl.com/player/emmanuelsanders/497322/profile

Manning elevates the play of everyone around him regardless of talent he makes them look good & produce, Brady doesn't do this anywhere near the level of manning

& finally :lol: at you for listening to Stephen a smith or anybody on first take

Manning has had, Harrison, Wayne, Welker, Decker, DT, JT, Clark plus Sanders and Edge... All of those guys are stud recievers/RB , Decker is questionable but he did well with Tebow there. None of those guys are scrubs like what some other QBs have, put Brady, Brees, Rodgers in this offence they would all go over 5000 yards and 50 tds with ease.
 

Frederick

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He's a top 10 guy IMO

Mccoy, Charles, Peterson are still the top 3 in some order IMO, and then on this year Murray is in that conversation

But Bell is right there with the next teir of rbs

Bell is probably the best (definitely top 3) dual threat RB

I had my doubts about him last year, and thought we should've taken Lacy, but right now I wouldn't trade him. Limitless potential.
 

shiznit

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Sanders was not great at pitt, DT's numbers are much better than they were with tebow

DT with Tebow

32 catches 551yds 4TD

DT with Manning

Year 1 - 94 catches 1434yds 10 TDs
Year 2 - 92 catches 1430yds 14TDs
Year 3 - 39 catches 662yds 6TDs (Through 6 games)

Sanders "outstanding" stats at Pittsburgh
http://www.nfl.com/player/emmanuelsanders/497322/profile

Manning elevates the play of everyone around him regardless of talent he makes them look good & produce, Brady doesn't do this anywhere near the level of manning

& finally :lol: at you for listening to Stephen a smith or anybody on first take
Yeah all your homer talk still doesn't change the fact that there's a valid argument out there that Manning has benefitted exponentially from having an extremely good group of receivers at his disposal.

And mock steven a smith and first take all you like... But he certainly isn't the only one with that opinion...

Your a deluded Bronco fan if you honestly don't think Brady wouldn't do exactly the same with those receivers... Infact, he may have even won a Super Bowl with them...
 

Tom155

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Manning has had, Harrison, Wayne, Welker, Decker, DT, JT, Clark plus Sanders and Edge... All of those guys are stud recievers/RB , Decker is questionable but he did well with Tebow there. None of those guys are scrubs like what some other QBs have, put Brady, Brees, Rodgers in this offence they would all go over 5000 yards and 50 tds with ease.
lol no they wouldn't easily especially Brady these days

you try and make it sound like Brady has never played with anyone good when that is complete bs Gronk, Welker, Moss, Hernandez etc not big on pats history that's the few I know

it was a no contest between them before the gap is even wider now

their play & stats tell the story about who is better, then the fact still remains brady cant win anything without cheating

that's all ive got to say on the matter not getting into a big thing and filling the thread arguing bs, really though nothing else needs to be said its clear to everyone but pats fans Manning > Brady
 
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Tom155

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Yeah all your homer talk still doesn't change the fact that there's a valid argument out there that Manning has benefitted exponentially from having an extremely good group of receivers at his disposal.

And mock steven a smith and first take all you like... But he certainly isn't the only one with that opinion...

Your a deluded Bronco fan if you honestly don't think Brady wouldn't do exactly the same with those receivers... Infact, he may have even won a Super Bowl with them...

lol I get you want to hate on the broncos as a raider fan but you are just making yourself look stupid here, your jealousy of the broncos is just sad its ok the raiders will win a game someday

and may have won a superbowl with them another statement with zero evidence to support it just like your if Bryant/Green were magically on the pats brady would be the greatest qb ever breaking records etc you just keep throwing these imaginary scenarios to try and make brady look better

It might help if you actually watched games so you would at least have a informed opinion brady has regressed quite a bit from what he was even though it's not like the gap was that close to begin with he misses throws, makes dumb decisions etc quite often now

You can try and shift the blame to his wr/o-line or whoever you want but its still not going to change the facts no matter how much you Brady fanboys want it to, you are just embarrassing yourselves
 
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