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What Would You Like To See At Wm 22?

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Red and Blue Knight said:
K82, did i say hart to wrestl? No.

Read again.

Heart to interfere, yes a stroke is bad but it ain't hard to pick up a chair and smash someone over the head with it.

And that would be pathetic, and I doubt that he could get the force to smash someone hard enough for it to be believable.

Have you seen footage of him recently? He is so frail its not funny and no that isnt a work its real life.

The poor bastard can barely talk properly let alone anything remotely physical.
 

lotm

Juniors
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okay. i'll concede that it was serious. initially. but if you did the same research (if any) into your 'diagnosis' as you did into his current abilities, you'd find that:
brethart.com said:
Now, 15 months later [i.e. late 2003], Hart is once again walking, swimming, riding a bike and training at the gym, thanks to a rapid recovery that began when he underwent intensive rehabilitation treatment at Foothills Medical Centre.
i think it's obvious that, now 24 months after that article was written, hart would be able to do some pretty strenuous physical excercise. probably not wrestling a legitimate match, but your contentions that "he would not even be able to jog or lift any heavy or move very fast at all" and "i doubt that he could get the force to smash someone hard enough for it to be believable" are ludicrous.

PARANoIR said:
No. It is not my opinion. It is FACT. It is everywhere, Hart, has said it himself. WWE have said it aswell, every article you read about Bret Hart mentions that he won't be able to wrestle.
and that's your problem. this is wrestling. i don't think you seem to understand that or what it means. things change more rapidly in wrestling than any other industry. and you take the 'articles' written by the pseudo-insiders as completely legitimate when, in reality, they know as much as you do (i.e. nothing).

Knight82 said:
even now not having full control in strength in it isnt serious well I guess that Cancer is no more serious then your common clod right?
you're a common clod.

it appears that you know very little about bret hart's current physical condition if you think he "can barely talk properly let alone anything remotely physical". he was training, biking and swimming 24 months ago. what do you think he can do now?
 

PARANoIR

Bench
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lotm said:
okay. i'll concede that it was serious. initially. but if you did the same research (if any) into your 'diagnosis' as you did into his current abilities, you'd find that:

Well if you did any further research into your 'diagnosis' beyond 2003, you would know there were further complications, so perhaps you should further you're research before you make all your high and mighty claims?

the same dickhead said:
and that's your problem. this is wrestling. i don't think you seem to understand that or what it means. things change more rapidly in wrestling than any other industry. and you take the 'articles' written by the pseudo-insiders as completely legitimate when, in reality, they know as much as you do (i.e. nothing).

Don't tell me what I'm taking as completely legitimate when you don't even know me buddy. You're an idiot, you're going on like Wrestling is life, you need to get yourself a girlfriend.

You can think what you like about Bret Hart, keep going around trying to prove that he is fit to wrestle again, and we'll just said how right you are.

If you saw the pictures of him on the WWE website recently, just by looking at the guy you can tell that he's not phyiscally able to wrestle, and as a further to that, in the interview they posted with him, he said he was in no way fit to wrestle, he emphasised this many times, he said it upsets him because he would like to wrestle guys like Kurt Angle, Eddie Guerrero, Chris Benoit and Randy Orton, and he said he would in no way be involved in a "HBK Screwjob" when there were talks of him siding with Hogan at Summerslam.
 
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PARANoIR said:
Well if you did any further research into your 'diagnosis' beyond 2003, you would know there were further complications, so perhaps you should further you're research before you make all your high and mighty claims?



Don't tell me what I'm taking as completely legitimate when you don't even know me buddy. You're an idiot, you're going on like Wrestling is life, you need to get yourself a girlfriend.

You can think what you like about Bret Hart, keep going around trying to prove that he is fit to wrestle again, and we'll just said how right you are.

If you saw the pictures of him on the WWE website recently, just by looking at the guy you can tell that he's not phyiscally able to wrestle, and as a further to that, in the interview they posted with him, he said he was in no way fit to wrestle, he emphasised this many times, he said it upsets him because he would like to wrestle guys like Kurt Angle, Eddie Guerrero, Chris Benoit and Randy Orton, and he said he would in no way be involved in a "HBK Screwjob" when there were talks of him siding with Hogan at Summerslam.

Man, you've gotta realise that he has nothing else, if wrestling wasnt real then he'd have to accept that he has nothing in real life.

Picture comic book guy I can see this poster literally having meetings with cardboard cutouts of the next WWE production meeting lol.
 

lotm

Juniors
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PARANoIR said:
Well if you did any further research into your 'diagnosis' beyond 2003, you would know there were further complications, so perhaps you should further you're research before you make all your high and mighty claims?
source?

PARANoIR said:
Don't tell me what I'm taking as completely legitimate when you don't even know me buddy.
i'm interpreting what you write. if i'm wrong (which i highly doubt) you're not expressing yourself well at all.

PARANoIR said:
You're an idiot, you're going on like Wrestling is life, you need to get yourself a girlfriend.
so let me get this straight ... you go on about me assuming things when i don't even know you, but you write this crap?

hypocrite.

PARANoIR said:
keep going around trying to prove that he is fit to wrestle again,
i never said he was fit to wrestle again. in fact, i said that was likely not to be the case. but i was rebuking your claims that he was never going to return to the wwe and knight82's claim that he was in no condition to do anything remotely physical.

PARANoIR said:
If you saw the pictures of him on the WWE website recently, just by looking at the guy you can tell that he's not phyiscally able to wrestle
oh! so that's your proof? a still shot. how conclusive. i stand corrected.

qed.

PARANoIR said:
in the interview they posted with him, he said he was in no way fit to wrestle, he emphasised this many times, he said it upsets him because he would like to wrestle guys like Kurt Angle, Eddie Guerrero, Chris Benoit and Randy Orton,
again, you seem to be confused. i never said he was going to wrestle again. i said it's not a fact that he would never return in some capacity or that he was physically unable to do anything wrestling-related.

Knight82 said:
Man, you've gotta realise that he has nothing else, if wrestling wasnt real then he'd have to accept that he has nothing in real life.
err ... riiiiight.

you despise confrontation, don't you?
 

bender

Juniors
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I would like to see WWE go with something like this for Wrestlemania:

Match 1 Cruiserweight Title Match:
Rey Mysterio Wwe cruiserweight Champion vs Juventud Gurrero w/Mexicools vs Tajiri.

Match 2 TagTeam Championship Unification (winner to switch between Shows) - Table ladders and Chairs.
New LOD (c) vs Worlds Greatest Tagteam (Haas & Benjamin) vs Cade & Murdoch vs Edge & Christian

Match 3 - US Title Chris Benoit vs Eddie Gurrero

Match 4 - intercontinental Title Carlito Carribean Cool vs Mick Foley - Hardcore Rules

Match 5 - Undertaker vs HHH

Match 6 - Kurt Angle vs Randy Orton

Match 7 - WWE title John Cena v HBK

Match 8 - Batista v Brock Lesnar

Match 9 - Jobbers Battle Royale
Steve Lombardi, Scotty 2 Hotty, Mario Mancini, Barry Horowitz, Barry O, Vincent, David Flair, El Gigante, Ted Arcedis, Moondog Spot.

Match 10 - Pipers Pit - Rowdy Roddy Piper and the Rock.

Match 11 - Hulk Hogan vs Stone Cold Steve Austin
 

Big Pete

Referee
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My Card (In no order)
3 Way Elimination Cruiserweight Match:
Paul London vs. Psychosis vs. Juventud Guerrera jr. (c)

U.S. Title Match:
Rey Mysterio vs. Mr. Kennedy (c)

Womans Match:
Trish vs. Victoria

I.C. Match:
Matt Hardy vs. Kerwin White(c)

Shawn Michaels vs. The Rock

WWE Title: Triple H (c) vs. Chris Jericho

Money in the Bank 4 Way Elimination No Holds Bared Match
Christian vs. Chris Benoit vs. Eddie Guerrero vs. Booker T

Kurt Angle vs. Steve Austin

Cactus Jack vs. Edge

World Title Match:
Randy Orton (c) (Heel) vs. John Cena

Interpromotional Grudge Match
Kane (Mask on) vs. Batista

With the right build up would make a good PPV IMO.
 

PARANoIR

Bench
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That 4 no holds bared match looks mad.!.!.! thatd be sweet.

You're having Cena go back SD in the future?

Its missing one thing, The phenom. The Undertaker will be there imo, that will be his swan song.

Kane v Batista would be awesome, and the likelyhood of kane returning with the mask could be a high one, ive read abit of stuff around the place thats been saying that when kane comes back from injury, he could be under the mask.
 

Big Pete

Referee
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Yeah I forgot about the Undertaker I just couldn't find him a good match.

The problem is trying to find an opponent that would give him a good match and would be a credible opponent at the same time. What would you suggest?

Anyways Im bored so I might explain why I chose the matches.

Match 1: Cruiser match, would get the crowd going. All of them are able to wrestle at a fast pace and hit some good high risk moves which the WWE would allow because it would be a big event.

Match 2: Would give the US title some more credibility with a face everyone likes finally winning a major title. I would try and give the US title some more credibility by having some good feuds going with Kennedy and Booker T and Benoit and so on.

Match 3: You need women somewhere on a PPV to keep the teens interested...Filler Match.

Match 4: Two talented opponents going off for another title. I would have it that Hardy is coming back from a serious injury he sustained against Edge. White would be the heel everyone hates but seems to always win thanks to his trusty weapon. Match would be back and forth until Hardy gets himself DQ'd.

Match 5: Legend vs. Legend match. Would be a good match and one fans would be dying to see not just inside the ring but outside of it with the promos. No real build up except HBK lays down a challenge for the Rock to have a match against HBK and give the fans something to see and we go from there.

Triple H vs. Chris Jericho-Be a good match and the story would have to be good, fans would have to feel Jerichos pain from the guy that was ruling the WWE to someone no one believed in.

Match 7:4 Talented wrestlers in a match where everything could happen. I'd want the match to include a few tables a ladder or two and of course a few chairs and some really good high spots.

Match 8: SCSA last match and he needs to go out with a bang and who better to help him work a match then Kurt Angle. Angle can play the same character he is by destroying every opponent. Eventually Angle goes too far with one of his beatdowns that SCSA gets involved laying out Angle. Austin would then challenge Angle and the feud would go from there.

Match 9: Edge needs help achieving his No.1 Heel spot and who better to help then Cactus Jack? If I was the WWE I would plant the seeds of this feud after Unforgiven and go from there. Would be an alright match as well, would have to be No DQ to have that wow factor though.

Match 10: A match Internent fans have been waiting to see for awhile. Cena would win the rumble but jump ship for this just like Benoit. Build up has to be good though.

Match 11: The key word to this is build up and the WWE will have to go far out for this IMO. Batista eliminates Kane in the rumble, which makes the psycho unmasked Kane to chuck a tanty and eliminate Batista illegally. The last we'll see is Kane try and burn Batista alive however it somehow backfires and all we can hear is Kane screaming. Weeks go by with Batista getting tormented by Kane, with music, notes, seeing his mask and so on. Eventually at NWO Kane comes out with the mask on and intereferes in Batistas match setting up the match at Wrestlemania.

I doubt any of these matches will make the real card though.
 

Smartman

Juniors
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Bret Hart appearance would make it one of the most memorable moments in wrestlemania history.

Referee knocked out, hitman comes in with a ref uniform while
HBK is locking in the sharpshooter on the rock and slams HBK with a chair and then Rock locks in the sharpshooter and wins.

Hitman gives HBK the finger
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Revenge is a dish best served
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Parra_Eels

Bench
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mmm i think and elimination chamber with austin vs hogan vs rock vs hbk vs goldberg vs flair would be mad sh*t. never gonna happen
 

Jono078

Referee
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Stone Cold Vs. Goldberg - Cage Match
Hulk Hogan Vs. The Undertaker - Two most respected Icons in the business, and Undertaker is still undefeated at 'Mania'.

I'll think of more later on...
 

Big Pete

Referee
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*Watches Hogan vs. Taker at Judgement Day 2002*

No just no.

Also the Goldberg vs. Austin feud was left way too late.
 
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